emergency obama birth certificate

It's good to see you are finally acknowledging due process of law.
Taitz has been stymied and roadbblocked at every turn, however this courageous patriot has refused to back down or give up.
She must have real conviction in what she knows.

Why do Obama and the courts refuse to provide what has been asked for?
Merely the opportunity to inspect his original birth certificate.

All your rants, taunts and insults really boil down to one issue - why are you supporting this criminal in hiding evidence?

 

argue whatever and whenever you like here in my subterranean thread, the obots don't set the agenda here. especially the third person virtual kind.

but fragile frankie is right, don't vote for the corrupt obamavich. they can. if he wants, he can start 'nother thread. we'll continue vet the dirtbag in the whitehouse right here.

 

Taitz doesn't know due process that's why she keeps getting shot down..

Her convictions aren't enough to magically fabricate evidence.

She's an attorney, a real estate agent and a dentist and evidently has never been serious enough to immerse herself in any of those professions.

 

She would be stymied less were she a competent lawyer. The vast majority of "roadblocks" she has faced have been entirely of her own creation.

Speaking only for the courts (because after all, Obama has voluntarily released his birth certificate twice) it would a violation of the law for them to do so. We actually do have laws you know. And they prevent the court from allowing access to these records without a good reason.

And Orly (and all other Birthers) have yet to provide a good reason.

Certainly you are not suggesting that the courts violate the law. Are you?

Make a case that warrants it, and there should be no problem.

Evidence of what?

Answer that question and the courts will throw open the doors of the DoH archives.

 

robert gibbs said "i've seen the birth certificate, i just put it on line".

three years later they put the "birth certificate" on line. so maybe the third release of a "birth certificate" with another bull(*)(*)(*)(*) press conference will be the charm.

 

Again Margot you spout rhetoric with no substance.

She isn't magically fabricating anything, she is making a reasonable request.
To examine the original birth certificate.

Why is this an issue if Obama has nothing to hide?

As for Hawaii itself and it's support of the Kenyan in Chief.
Why are birth certificates not a matter of public records as they are in other states?

Would it have anything to do with this states ambiguous policies regarding citizenship and foreign born children?

This is an important issue and should it prove to be nothing so be it but until then our elected officials are accountable to the people and enough doubt has been cast for this crook to stop playing Nixon and hiding behind the powers of his office.

 

The birth certificate has already been certified..

Were you aware that there was NO Kenya in 1961 and that Nairobi was in Tanzania in 1961.

Orly Taitz is a stupid, flighty woman.

 

What are you trying to hide?
It is a simple matter to examine the original birth certificate.

Something that should have been done years ago and put this issue to rest if it has no substance.

The very fact that Obama uses the power of his office to hide information is enough to raise reasonable doubt.

It is simple, really.
And all your rants and insults instead of supporting a simple request only add more credence to the request.

PS: Are you suggesting the legitimacy of a sitting president is not a valid reason?

 

Again, more insults against people who request information you would prefer remain hidden.
Also, you use obscure information to obfuscate simple issues.

What nationality is Obama's family?
What does he call his father and where does he trace their ancestry in his biography?
I think the word Kenya comes up repeatedly.

You use information to hide the truth.
hmmmm, what does that make you?

 

What, exactly, is "reasonable" about that request?

We are (as John Adams said) a nation of laws not of men. It does not matter whether or not Obama has anything to hide. The law still prohibits what Orly is asking for. If you have not yet read the transcript from Orly's last disastrous hearing in Hawaii, you should do so. Even Obama himself does not have the legal ability to waive the state's protection of his birth certificate from access by persons without "a direct and tangible interest."

You are misinformed. In at least 43 states, they are not public records. In Iowa they are. For the remaining six I have simply been unable to find out.

There is no ambiguity in Hawaii's polices regarding citizenship and foreign born children. Those are federal issues. Hawaii has no leeway to do anything unique.

This is and always has been a completely phony issue promoted by a small coterie of individuals who still cannot accept that three years ago there was an election and their guy lost.

Nothing more, nothing less, nothing else.

 

Which side?

On his mother's, he has at least eight direct ancestors who fought in the Revolution. I'd put them firmly in the "American" camp.

He calls his father "dead." And again, he traced his ancestry in different directions depending on which side of the family is being considered.

I'm sure it does.

 

So what is your point?
Regardless of his mothers ancestry the woman had the poor judgement to get involved with a transiant foreigner and quickly dumped him for another foreigner.

It is Obama's legitimacy we are concerned with.

Why don't you quit allowing this coward to hide behind the powers of his office and cough up the evidence that would either put this to rest for good or put his ass in jail where it belongs if he has secured the highest office in this country illegally.

?????

Unless you answer my direct question, I don't care to hear what other obfuscations or non-sequitors you have to relate.

 

You asked questions. I answered them. If you want better answers, you should ask better questions.

And she went on to become a PhD anthropologist who led a remarkable and admirable life largely involved in helping those less fortunate than her. And she didn't even have access to spell check.

No. It is his eligibility with which we are concerned. There is no doubt regarding his legitimacy. According to the records of Hawaii, his parents married on February 2, 1961. He was born six months later.

LOL... were you not just whining about insults? Then you go on to call the President a "coward." I guess suppressing your personal hypocrisy is not a priority for you?

That said...what a weird request you are making of me here

1) How is it that I am "allowing" anything? Exactly what are you hallucinating are my superpowers in regard to allowing or not allowing anything the President of the United States does or does not do?

2) How is he hiding "behind the powers of his office?" Last I checked, all our personal records are protected by the same laws... and I certainly hold no office with powers. I suspect you do not either.

3) This was put to rest on June of 2008 when he voluntarily released his birth certificate the first time. The Birther refusal to accept reality does not constitute a real controversy any more than whether or not we landed on the moon is a real controversy.

Now... as to your real but unasked question... why am I an anti-Birther?

Because I believe Birther motives to be despicable, and I believe Birthers themselves to be dishonest, bigoted, irrational and potentially dangerous people. I believe that Edmund Burke was correct when he said all that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.

So I am doing something.

 

just call him frankie. should take care of the problem, worked for me.

 

I am all for due process of law. Orly has been afforded it repeatedly.

Taitz has been stymied and roadbblocked at every turn, however this courageous patriot has refused to back down or give up.
She must have real conviction in what she knows.

Taitz has failed in all of her legal actions due to the due process of law. I have no evidence that she is either courageious or a patriot. Certainly she is wasting the time of the Courts and taxpayers money.

Why do Obama and the courts refuse to provide what has been asked for?
Merely the opportunity to inspect his original birth certificate.

Once again, due to due process of law- Obama of course is not involved- this is between Orly and Hawaii- not that i am sure Orly understands that.

What criminal? What evidence? What insults?

I am pointing out that Taitz is a complete failure as a lawyer and that Birthers have never produced any evidence for any of their claims. Not sure why you consider these facts to be 'rants'

 

How?

Seriously- how?

Back up your claim- tell us how Obama 'uses the power of his office" to hide information?

Unsubstantiated innuendo.

 

Give me a break.
I posed questions and you inserted your ignorant bias.
If you are trying to paint yourself as attempting to do me favors go sell it to the gullible.

You merely want to impede the process of law to expose this criminal.

 

If he were not the president of the united states his original birth certificate would have been produced years and this issue laid to rest.

As it is we have a sitting POTUS with dubious legitimacy, a missing birth certificate and an invalid SS#.

 

She uses fact to counter unsupported claims.


What nationality is Obama's family?

What relevance does that have to do with eligiblity?

What does he call his father and where does he trace their ancestry in his biography?

Again- not relevant to eligibility

 

For one, quit calling me names.
My handle is not birther.

As for the criminal - That is Obama.
Illegal laws do not legitimize illegal actions.

We need look no farther then him ordering the execution of US Citizens without due process of law.

Also - his legitimacy as president is in question.
If it eventually comes out that he is not eligible to be president his whole campaign as well as every action he has taken with the authority of POTUS is also illegal.

 

Your opinion, and not related to eligibility. And the voters had all this information when he was elected. So not an issue for voters either.

It is Obama's legitimacy we are concerned with.

Of course he is 'legitimate'- the Electoral College elected him, Congress confirmed him, the Chief Justice swore him in- he is legitimately our President, according to the Constitution.

Why don't you quit allowing this coward to hide behind the powers of his office and cough up the evidence that would either put this to rest for good or put his ass in jail where it belongs if he has secured the highest office in this country illegally.

Once again- how is he using the powers of his office to do anything? You keep claiming that, but provide no substance at all.

 

No, only the reference to her idiocy is my opinion.
Other than that it is a factual statement.

 

I am curious ... Have you ever had a passport or visa or ever traveled out of the US? You seem oddly uninformed at how things work or US citizenship and immigration laws.

 

I've been to Europe and South America.