I was thinking about the gay marriage issue and then the horrors of what this could do like plural marriages and other odd unions between adults from those opponents of it, not all here on the site. I then decided the best thing we could all do is End Marriage! Seriously if noone got married and say had cohabitation contracts you could have any adult combination of people in a relationship unit and not have all this baggage. If two men or women, a man wants four wives, a wife wants four husbands or you get a woman wanting to have say two husbands and two wives just do it and forget the government and religions in this and not even make it legal. It wouldn't be illegal noone is getting married. Therefore its in the middle and therefore not legal or illegal. And the government if 95% of the adults decided over a few decades not to get married but do this they would have to adapt to it as would the rest of society eventually making adults and couplings they have just a private matter between them. Just ignore marriage and in time it will go away and die its much needed death, apathy killed Prohibition it can kill marriage if most people just opt out of it. This is the core of civil rights the right to decide, to be free and make your life as you want it to be at the most core level. To protect the rights of sexualy minorities and those whose conscious choices are unique (a bisexual needing a man and a woman in their life for example) we need to end marriage.
That seems to be one of the two pro gay marriage arguments when taken to their logical conclusion. Either government should have no role in marriage, so it should be banned, or everyone should be able to be married, brother/sister, Father/daughter, you name it.
how is letting anyone marry any way the logical conclusion of letting people of the same gender marry?
End marriage? I don't think my kids would like to see their parents no longer being married. They're funny that way. This issue is so tiresome. Civil unions, not marriage. Marriage is a Church thing and the Church does not and cannot approve of it. Time to move on, gays. Push for the civil union as a simple legal remedy and stop harassing the Church. Govt has no business telling the Church how it should abandon morals. Abolish the marriage license (state govt) and get govt out of the marriage business. This is not the place for govt. THAT is the problem.
Hey Trin, most people I would say, who support gay marriage, only want civil unions. Myself included in that bunch. Marriage is just a term. Civil unions are what they're after.
Actually, marriage as it stands now is only a contract between you and the government and that contract dictates what can be done during and after the marriage ends. That contract is in effect until you die. End government marriage and let the Church resume it's original role Then gays can find a church that will marry them, and there will be churches that will.
What you're refering to is called a civil union. Those are basically marriages authorized by the state. Marriages, have a much more religious meaning in the US.
equal rights.... for all, for those that feel marriage is the issue and they want to ban it for heterosexuals, that is a fight all their own, have at it by not getting married you lose all the benefits of marriage, most Americans will never give that right up without a fight
No, marriage is a contract with the state, those that are romantic can also get married in a church but you still have to enter into the State contract.
doesn't work, people have been denied rights to see loved ones dying in hospitals cause hospitals only recognized marriage, so either everyones civil union is called a civil union or everyone's civil union is called marriage
marriage in the eyes of the law is a civil union, religious marriage also exists, but it has no legal binding under the law
If you're getting married (Religious) then you will also be getting a civil union as well. Marriages are like the frosting on a cake, not needed but nice to have.
Would a rose by another name still smell as sweet? In other words, it's a civil union, but it can also be called a marriage.
When 90% plus of the people are not married but have these new legal arrangements things will evolve to adapt. I'm not talking marriage here people at all not civil, not religious just don't get married the legal agreements made would be what amounts to coupling up long term. Do what kills most things ignoring them it destroyed Prohibition, it tends to eliminate other laws and customs just not doing them anymore. I'm not clear enough in my original post maybe I don't want any form of official marriage if Jane wants to be with Dick and Samantha and they can legally enter into a contract, be eighteen, they get with a lawyer and draw up the agreements. Sign them and be done with it. Come on this is now the time to kill this institution off many people don't marry now, dna testing can prove parentage so child support issues would not be any different so no need to assume the child is part of the marriage like the old days and women don't need men to support themselves. This is not the 1950's and the sooner we cantoss out that baggage the better. And it would solve issues no need to have polygamy illegal once this is standard just if a woman or man wants three men and three women and be head of the family, fine. Sorry for the misunderstanding I used the terms for marriage when they don't apply to my idea maybe bed partners or companions would have been better terms.
As long as it's equal to marriage, I don't care what you call it. I'm not hung up on the name, or the religious angle of it. Changing what the state calls it has nothing to do with what your religion calls it anyway, and just like now, no religion has to recognize a marriage, or union, or whatever, they don't choose to. No harm done.
If kids weren't created by all this pairsomes, threesomes, orgies and casual co-habitation with no commitment....then it would be a great idea to end marriage. I find it amazing that in the gay argument and in this one....children don't exist. The hell with the little buggers eh? The reason why marriage is important is to promote a strong family unit for the little tike that ultimately always comes along when least expected. Its not a "right" and any man or woman can take part in it. They just shouldn't be allowed to twist the rules around their sexual desires. And I add---people do have the right to live the way they do in this country. But it doesn't have to be encouraged or promoted.
Homosexual couples can and do have children, so the child issue is not lost in the debate over gay marriage. In fact, there is nothing about a homosexual relationship that sets it apart from a hetero one except for the gender of the people involved. That's it. Everything else is in your own head.
I think original post should have been worded better. End LEGAL marriage! Marriage as a societal and cultural institution will remain. And I agree 100 % with this notion. There is no reason for government to be involved in marriage regulation.
Having marriage does not in any way mean there can't also be cohabitation contracts. I have no problem with two men, two women, one man and multiple women, one woman and multiple men, or any other permutation of people having legal cohabitation contracts. However, I would like the term marriage to be reserved for the union of a single man and woman.
