Eric Trump conceded that his father ‘lost a fortune,’ ...

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  1. struth

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    if they aren’t profits they are at cost
     
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    Liberals: Trump ran for president so he can make money!

    Trump: I lost money running for president.

    Liberals: See, I told you!
     
  3. Josephwalker

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    The NYT is your source?:roflol:
     
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    1. I don't have a lot of faith in the average voter. They're the same people who voted Obama in a second term, and nearly voted in Hillary against Trump, so anything stupid and shortsighted could happen.

    2. Even with the limited faith I have in the average voter, I don't think any are that stupid as to have COVID as their single issue. (Plus, single issue voters are idiots imho.)


    Trump: rich successful businessman

    Liberals: we hate him he's a greedy capitalist!

    Trump: loses money

    Liberals: see we knew he was a terrible businessman!
     
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    . . . you are sitting here screen capping the graph and you still don't understand how to read it . . . even with the legend printed directly at the top of your screenshot? Really? Seriously?

    And if the excess deaths were CAUSED by the lockdowns, then we should have seen them lead to a CLIMB in excess deaths. Instead, excess deaths started to fall after the lockdown, and places like Italy that locked down much more drastically had an excess death rate that fell faster than ours did . . . the opposite of what would have happened if the lockdowns were causing the deaths.

    Please put some thought into this.
     
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    I have 0 faith in a Trump voter. They are the same people who said he would make America great again and actually believed that Mexico would pay for his wall that he hasn't even built.

    Hillary was a terribly flawed candidate, this is why I voted Libertarian in 2016. Not this time though, Trump is a disaster of epic proportions that I would vote for the corn in my **** over Trump.
     
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  7. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Ignorance is not a merit worthy rebuttal.
     
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    HB Surfer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    NY Times, DailyKos, MediaMatters, CNN... all propaganda for people that can't think for themselves and have somehow been conned into thinking Big Authoritarian Government is a good thing.
     
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    What utter tripe... (imho)

    Wow... You are really a 'ground breaker' on this one... good job & get your 'boy / girl scout' / Merritt badge (from the MSM / NY Times) on the way out... ROTFL!!! :) Sophistry ~ at best...
     
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    Another NYT revelation? Just out of curiosity, how many NYT's stories need to be exposed as fake before the left figures it out?
     
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    If Trump was such a criminal prior to running for office, why was the left fawning all over him for decades.
     
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    How does one reconcile that the first years in a decade that he needed to pay any income taxes came while he was president with losing a fortune while being president?
     
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    Trump ran for president in 2012 as a branding exercise to save “The Apprentice” from being cancelled. NBC was about to dump the show.

    So, Trump discovered “birtherism”.

    NBC renewed his show. And Trump dropped out of teh race a few days later.

    In 2016, Trump tried again. This time, he wanted to achieve his long held dream of a Trump Tower Moscow and had his campaign flunkies and hangers on negotiating with the Russians over it throughout the 2016 campaign.

    Of course, the Russians weren’t really interested in the deal. After all, why would you build a monument to money laundering in a country people launder money OUT of?????

    Trump has never hesitated to try and cash in on being President.

    From doubling the membership dues at Mar A Lago, to rerouting Air Force planes so the crews would lay over in his Scottish resort, the effort was constant (and most likely intermittent, as is the pattern with Trumpian mismagament).

    None of this is any indication that Trump knows how to run a business. Gouging your customers does not guarantee you a profit.
     
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    You made that one up!!!
     
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    Just the kind of dialogue one would expect from people who think a guy in their AM radio is news.
     
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    More like:

    TRump: “Rich successful businessman. Worth $10 billion!”

    Wall Street: “ROTFLMAO! This guy is the biggest deadbeat in New York”

    Liberals: Guy is a fake and a fraud trying to get elected by race baiting and fooling the proles with his “Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous “act.

    Trump” Loses money.

    Liberal and Wall Street: Why is anyone surprised? He’s been doing that all his life”.
     
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    Lame, lame, lame.......
     
  18. struth

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    I am just happy about it
     
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    Eric Trump conceded that his father ‘lost a fortune,’ ...

    If I remember right he has lost at least two fortunes.
     
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    nobody was "fawning over him". He's been a clown since day one. New Yorkers know him for who he is, and he's a joke in NYC
     
  21. Patricio Da Silva

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    Incompetent rebuttal:

     
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    Logical fallacy here is that running for president in order to make money doesn't preclude the outcome that he actually lost money in the attempt to make it, as Trump did, indeed, bilk the American taxpayer out of millions by directing his entourage to stay at his hotels and resorts ( for which he took more time off than any president in history ). Now, if Trump's fortunes sank faster than the intake, that's due to his own incompetence, but it doesn't negate the fact that that was his motive, in the first place.
     
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    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Incompetent rebuttal:

    Incompetent rebuttals are arguments where the salient premise is based on: [highlighted pertains to your comment] non arguments, which come in many different flavors, especially those which contain vacuous (unsubstantiated) declarations, rebuttals rife with weasel words ( improper use of generalities such as 'some people are saying' 'everyone knows' 'well-established fact'. They are not a big debate sin, if the argument isn't entirely based on them) ad hominems, loaded terms & phrases, egregious logical fallacies (the operative word being 'egregious' ) and misuse of logic terms (calling something, for example, a 'slippery slope fallacy' which it isn't actually a slippery slope fallacy, or one of the known logical fallacies), off topic and irrelevant deflections, sentiments ( feelings are not an argument because they can't be debated ) off point arguments/deflections (off point is a sibling to off topic, where off topic is attempting to highjack the thread. It's done a lot in internet forums, and if the person to whom you directed the topic change accepts it, then you're off into a new direction, but, as such, of course, doesn't refute the original premise offered), 'kill the messenger" tactics, i.e., attacking the person presenting the argument rather than the argument, itself ( the only time kill the messenger is valid is for a well-established discredited source, such as Alex Jones, David Duke, etc, ), simplisticism, ( reducing an argument beyond the threshold where it can be simplified, ie., oversimplified to an extent the premise is no longer viable, childish remarks, comments arising from ignorance (for example, NYTimes is a 'radical leftist rag' -- that's a remark born out of ignorance, it's also an 'kill the messenger' tactic) and, last, but not least, and a significant debate sin, is posturing; posturing type comments, are in two basic categories, one is where you flaunt, i.e, for example, your military service, but of course if the argument can be improved by your qualifications of expertise in a field, that is okay, what I mean is something like 'I served while you were dodging the draft" whereupon your service doesn't improve your argument about whether dodging the draft was moral, or not, or flaunting your education, or authority of some kind, unless it's pertinent to the argument, and the other type of posturing are those comments which are motivated by puffing oneself up, and this is done by shaming, belittling, mocking, patronizing, 'mansplaining', flaming, where one talks down to ones opponent in order to puff oneself up,

    FYI, for a newspaper to achieve the status of 'journal of record' it has to win scores of awards, have a history of excellence. Does that mean any newspaper can get it right all the time? No, but no journal does, and that isn't the point. The point is that there are only four journals of record, The Washington Post, The Wall Street Journal, The Los Angeles Times, and the New York Times. That is why your remark is born out of ignorance, and is an incompetent rebuttal.

    All of them have stellar ratings on mediabiasfactcheck site.
     
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    You just don't seem to understand the very world you live in. What happens on the nightly networks is propaganda, and you accept and repeat it willingly. You never asked yourself why the 3 big networks cover the same stories, with the same bias, in the same order, virtually each and every night? Do you wonder why the bias is virtually always 100% aligned with the Democratic Party? Do you wonder why the MSM talking heads and the Democratic Party all repeat the same talking points? It's Orwellian and you fell right into it without a second thought. Do you wonder why all the Night time talk show hosts have the exact same ideology and it syncs with the Democratic Party?

    AM Radio is not news, except when they share information/events that the MSM refuses to cover. For the longest time, Leftists had no clue that the Clinton-Steele Dossier was created by Russian Agents.... those that listened to AM radio learned about how Christopher Steele leaked it to Yahoo News and then used the news report to tell the FBI that it was legit. You likely didn't know that Bruce Ohr told the DOJ the Clinton-Steele Dossier was from nefarious sources and not verifiable, but they used it anyways. You likely don't know that an FBI lawyer lied on the FISA applications and then also used the Steele-Dossier to abuse 4th Amendment Rights of Trump staffers.

    AM Radio is filled with Rightwing talking points. Conservatives know that and laugh, because we don't just follow along like you Leftists. Somehow, Leftists are very susceptible to propaganda. AM Radio has amazing nuggets that the MSM refuses to share with people like you, because it does not push Democratic Party / Globalist agenda. I'll bet you didn't know that in the 2012 elections the IRS shared Conservative private tax information with Leftist Media outlets. Did you know that? Would you like a link directly from a Leftwing outlet admitting it? Why did nothing happen to the IRS that did it except that they had to apologize? It's a felony.

    https://www.propublica.org/article/...ed-tea-party-also-disclosed-confidential-docs

    I could go on for pages with information you likely never knew about... because the real Orwellian zombies thrive on the left. Just repeat what they tell you.
     
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    @HB Surfer, Thank you for taking the time to post as you did... Most of us are so 'post fatigued' that we don't bother w/ dispelling the outrageously disingenuous claims & assertions of the "opposition" - You have done us all proud in your 'due diligence' & I thank you!
     
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