Escalation? U.S. Navy Fires Warning Shots At Iranian Ship .....

The person who will be at the helm after the election will be Hillary Clinton. Trump, who has said worse things but who may or may not have done worse things, has simply no chance to win. He is very flawed candidate and, frankly, a pig. Anyway, looking at what Clinton and the pro Clinton camp have in mind, reveals the real issues that will be at stake in the next years with respect to Iran.

https://theintercept.com/2016/10/26...-doubling-down-on-anti-iran-pro-saudi-policy/
At Hillary Clinton’s Favorite Think Tank, a Doubling Down on Anti-Iran, Pro-Saudi Policy

 

Please!!!

Iran was caught RED HANDED breaking NPT rules!!!

The idiots in the Iranian Theocracy thought that if they dug out and built secret underground nuclear facilities and Uranium Enrichment Centrifuges that we...the United States would not know but we have this thing called.......DEEP GROUND AND SEA PENETRATING RADAR.....which NASA has been using to see deep underground on a number of planets and moons in our solar system and we have Satellites in orbit as well as several in Geosynchronous Orbit directly over Iran equipped with this type of Radar!!!

We watched the entire construction process and when we told the U.N. Iran had built these illegal secret nuclear facilities Iran first denied it but when we presented the radar evidence Iran openly admitted it had broke the rules of the NPT.

Now as long as Iran hold to the agreement it has with the United States there should be no problem but if Iran does develop nukes.....we will invade.

AA

 

There should be no problem if the issue was ever about nukes, but there is: a whole lot of problems! Iran and the US are in a crossroads of sorts: they are facing off one another in various theaters, in Syria, in Iraq, in Lebanon, in Yemen, and elsewhere. There are only 3 paths that lie ahead: 1- continuation of what has been 2- cooperation or 3- confrontation. Neither major party candidate in the US wants (1) or (2). And they have said it explicitly and openly.

 

Look.....the reality is and YOU KNOW THIS.....the Old Guard Iranian Religious Theocracy has only about 10 years before they are no more as they are dying out.

Issues like Syria, Lebanon, Yemen...etc.....are things where a new Democratic Iran along with a partner in the U.S. can resolve and be a stabilizing element to these places.

BUT.....what you should worry about is if the Iranian Old Religious Guard tries to do something REALLY STUPID as some might want to take huge risks before they die.

What is going on in Yemen and at sea off the cast is INSANITY as Qud's Force is directly supplying and advising the Yemeni Rebels as well as helping them attempt to target U.S. navy Ships with Iranian made missiles and YES... am aware those missile have been slightly altered to make it look as if they are not front line Iranian Missiles as a number of parts and systems in each missile has been replaced so that Qud's Force feels this would be enough to allow denial they are supplied by Qud's Force....but here is the thing.....

WE KNOW QUD'S FORCE IS DIRECTLY AIDING AND ADVISING AND EVEN HELPING TO TARGET U.S. NAVY SHIPS IN YEMEN!!

How?

The NSA.

The NSA is the worlds most powerful and capable spy agency and the NSA intercepts and records every single bit of electronic data occurring on Earth!!!

We are aware of ALL CONVERSATIONS AND DATA TRANSMITIONS occurring between the Iranian Theocracy....the Iranian Republican Guard....and Qud's Force.....including all Qud's Force operations in Yemen!

Iran is PLAYING WITH FIRE!!!

And if Iran doesn't knock it off it will get BURNED!!

AA

 

I am going to ignore the gibberish, but on this point -- which is the subject of this article today (US Officials: Iran Supplying Weapons to Yemen's Houthi Rebels) -- even basic common sense should tell you that on this issue there are only 2 possibilities that would make any sense: 1) that there was no Houthi and/or Iranian involvement in the missiles fired at the US vessels; or 2) if there was any involvement, those missiles weren't intended to actually hit the US vessels but were intended merely as part of the 'cat and mouse' game between the two sides.

Lets say the missiles had struck and caused severe damage to the US warship. What would happen? Obviously, the US would be under a lot of pressure to react and the first targets it would pursue would be the very folks you claim are behind the whole thing! These are bright folks who have outmaneuvered the US for many years; the idea that they have suddenly become stupid is itself stupid. They know the lines and how to navigate them. Hence, especially considering the make up of those missiles (not in the same category and capability of Iran's missiles), there only 2 plausible explanations. Either Iran and/or Houthis had nothing to do with it, and this is simply an attempt by others (e.g., the Saudis) to invite a confrontation with Iran. Or, alternatively, the missiles weren't meant to hit any US vessels but were designed just to make some noise and send a signal.

 

If there's one thing that puzzles me it's that the US simply cannot perceive how effing gullible they are, and so imbued with delusional self-belief as to now be a threat to mankind.

'the idea that they have suddenly become stupid is itself stupid' - exquisite! The Pentagon movers and shakers see them as uncivilized barbarians when in fact they're smarter by a factor of at least 100 than they are. Bitter Lake exposed that in spades! And yet they simply do not comprehend? It is SO bizarre.

 

OK...again....NSA!!!!

When Spetsnaz in the Ukraine was ordered by Putin to stop directly aiding the Crimean rebels in their attempts to shoot down Ukrainian Combat Aircraft because we called up Putin and told him we KNEW that Spetsnaz was DIRECTLY working with the rebels to target Ukrainian Aircraft and that if they did not stop we would take action.

So Putin did something REALLY STUPID as he allowed Spetsnaz to just let the ill trained Crimean Rebels to operate those old Soviet made AA Missile and the result was the ill trained rebels accidentally shot down that 777 CIVILIAN PASSENGER JET!!

How do we know this happened?

We released the NSA intercepted communications between a Russian General and the Crimean Rebels!!

FOR THE WHOLE WORLD TO LISTEN!!!

Now...if you think the NSA is not capable of knowing every little communication occurring between the Yemeni Rebels and Qud's Force then you are just fooling yourself!!

AA

 

The reality is if you communicate electronically on planet Earth.....we will KNOW!!

AA

 

When you think you know everything is exactly when you know nothing!

In the meantime, since you trust the NSA and the like, why don't you search and see what they actually said about the 2 things you constantly mention: first, the idea that Iran was pursuing a nuclear weapons program; second, the idea of going to war with Iran. Their assessment on both issues was made public: Iran wasn't pursuing nuclear weapons, but had a civilian nuclear energy program which also gave it surge capacity. And any war with Iran would be costly and a disaster for the US.

But, frankly, who is there to listen? Certainly not those who benefit from spinning tales that would lead to the opposite conclusions!

 

The ONLY reason you built over 10,000 centrifuges is to develop weapons grade Uranium!!

Iran isn't fooling anyone!!

wE MIGHT NOT KNOW EVERYTHING BUT WE KNOW ENOUGH!!

AA

 

Obama's rapid pull out from Iraq has not worked out well for
the Middle East..... or for Europe.

I agree with how The Donald explained the results of that in the debates.

 

You know.....the United States has MANY ALLIES and some of our allies are our former adversaries such as Japan and Germany and the thing is even though the United States was victorious in WWII over these nations they still have become under their Constitutions WE WROTE FOR THEM....very prosperous nations with very happy populations.

Now when you start throwing the word around that is CONFRONTATION you have to ask yourself just WHO is being confrontational?

The U.S. because Iran has broken elements of the NPT the ONE TREATY THAT NO NATION CAN BE ALLOWED TO BREAK.....or Iran the violator of the NPT?

AA

 

You know I really do hope that the Iranian People can finally cast off their Religious Leadership and get what they want which is a true and fair Democratic Iran.

It is really inevitable as the Iranian Population which is over 70% 30 years old or younger absolutely HATES the oppressive control of their Religious Theocracy and it is unfortunate that Theocracy has used brutal and murderous tactics to remain in power as every time the Iranian People protest or attempt to force change they are beaten down with extreme prejudice.

And the thing is it really is beyond stupid for that Theocracy to attempt to militarily mess around with the United States a nation that could squash them at any time like flies.

But the Iranian people will have their day.

AA

 

Well they had that. They really had that.
They had that until the US paid the Iranian military to make a coup so the Shah of Iran could be the American puppet regime to massively oppress the Iranian population. The United States acknowledges that they did that. Americans convicted over that: zero.

All hail the terror state.

And when the Iranians got rid of the American puppet regime, that was when US started to support Saddam Hussein and rage a WMD war against Iran. Americans convicted over that: zero.

All hail the terror state.


So yeah. America got a democracy.
But that doesn't make the nation any better.

 

You know I am well aware of what happened but do you know WHY it happened?

We were playing a much bigger and much more dangerous game known as the COLD WAR.

It is very unfortunate that in our attempts to fight and win the Cold War which we did eventually.....that nations like Iran were caught up in the battle of two Superpowers fighting for supremacy.

The thing is back then all of us knew that Global Thermonuclear War could break out at any moment and it almost did several times and the world came within 48 seconds of ENDING back in 1983 when dying and delusional Soviet Leader Yuri Andropov who was so sick he thought the NATO war games named ABLE ARCHER 83......he thought they were to be an ACTUAL NUCLEAR FIRST STRIKE BY THE UNITED STATES AND NATO!!!

I was in West Berlin at the time and we had IN BROAD DAYLIGHT KGB Agents walking right up to us and saying..."We both have a big problem!!"

You see Yuri Andropov was dying and was so delusional he had CONVINCED many of his old buddies that had taken over the KGB after he left that ABLE ARCHER 83 really would be a Nuclear First Strike and Andropov in his dying mind actually thought we had already deployed all the new nuclear Cruise Missiles in Europe as well he thought we had already deployed the Intermediate Range Pershing II Tactical Nuclear Missiles in west germany and the Pershing II really scared the S#!T out of the Soviet's as these American Tactical Nuclear Missiles flew so fast and were so accurate and combine that with being stationed in West Germany they were capable of totally decapitating the Soviet Command and Control faster than they were capable of responding thus we could wipe them out well before they could even put the codes in their Nuclear Football!!

Anyways......with the help of a number of younger KGB Agents as well as some in the GRU we were able to stop the launch only 48 seconds before Andropov was to have the keys turned.

So...hey....I am sorry about what happened in Iran but the fact is we were playing a much more dangerous game and if we had not won those people in Iran would be speaking RUSSIAN RIGHT NOW.....so it's sort of the less of two evils.

But right now.....what is happening in Iran....well the people want their old Religious Leaders GONE!!

aa

 

LOLOLOL..

 

Yeah I know!! LOL!!

Where does he want them to park in Nebraska??

LOL!!!

The one big lesson we absolutely learned after WWII is that we can NEVER EVER AGAIN think we can be isolationists because every time we are a WORLD WAR BREAKS OUT!!!

Now even those who are no fans of the U.S. have to admit that since the end of WWII when the United States because a nuclear Superpower.....although a number of local wars and skirmishes have broken out WE HAVE PREVENTED THE BREAKOUT OF WWIII.

And....THAT IS WHY OUR NAVY IS A GLOBAL ENTITY!!

AA

 

Note that the reply was post # 666



LOL

 

LOL!!

Seriously Dude.....without the U.S. Navy patrolling the world oceans there would be utter chaos.

China would seize any vessels traveling through the strait of Taiwan and the South China Sea to say nothing of what China would be doing to Japan and the Philippians.

It would be a free for all in the Persian Gulf....the Red Sea....and off the coast of Africa.

We make sure International Waterways STAY OPEN!!

AA

 

I am well aware of all that. But I fail to see the argument why that is an excuse to behave like a bunch of nazi's.
To pay for a military coup against an ELECTED government, install a fascist to violently oppress a population,
and when you people lost your fascistic dictator you started a WMD war.

It's inexcusable.


Just like the US behaved in Vietnam,... throwing napalm bombs on villages.
Thats the stuff Assad does in Syria. Mind you. Americans are right on par with the likes of him.
It is so, since I fail to see any remorse of what they have done to other countries.

 

Hey.....I never said we were perfect.

Things happen.....bad things and good things.

The United States is an incredibly massive and overwhelmingly influential Global Entity that literally exists in one form or another and even many forms in just about every single nation on Earth.

For GOD sakes we even have 2 U.S. Military Bases in RUSSIA as they are there to house the members of the U.S. Military Nuclear, Chemical and Biological Weapons Destruction Teams along with an arm of the CDC...center for Disease Control as we are STILL there cleaning up old Soviet Biological Weapons Labs along with the CDC that is overseeing Bioweapons Destruction.

When a nation is this big and this influential and this powerful and this IMPORTANT to the people of the world in general as without U.S. Food Aid over a BILLION PEOPLE would STARVE!!

Without U.S. Medical Aid....800 MILLION WOULD DIE!!

So hey.....we make mistakes...we are not perfect.....but without us.....a LOT of people would die.

AA

 

I am not convinced America "has a democracy".

A plutocracy for sure, an oligarchy with fascist tendencies, but not a democracy. I cannot vote for Trump, but it's better than 50-50 that he is right about the election being rigged.

 

OK....this is the problem.

As American's our Constitution guarantees and protects our rights to control our own destiny and we have absolutely every mechanism at our disposal to develop, create, fix, repair, enhance, protect the democratic system of government that we have YET.......far too many American's would rather complain, bi#ch, moan and groan RATHER THAN GET OFF THEIR ASSES AND DO SOMETHING!!!!!!

You don't like how things are going or run?

Then get off your ass and DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT!!!

AA

 

What do you suggest I do about it? Write a letter to my corrupt congresscritter? Write a letter to the editor? Vote?

You're a gas AA, a real gas.

 

Its another Trump lie.. The mechanics of rigging an election are damned near impossible. Now Trump is saying that if Hillary is elected, he and his movement won't let her serve. Trump is trash and fortunately he's an aberration on the political scene.