Ethnic migrants bring waves of crime

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  1. Anders Hoveland

    Anders Hoveland Banned

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    Migrants from certain particular ethnicities are bringing waves of crime to all the western countries. I do not think anyone seriously is disputing this, but if you want to argue about the facts please go to one of the many other threads in this forums about this; I do not want this thread to get derailed by focusing on what exactly the ethnic crime rates are.

    These migrants are several times more likely to commit violent crime and rapes (up to 15 times in some cases, although this is a debatable subject), are much more likely to steal. This safety threat brings on increased cost and inconvenience to the rest of society. It is not only these migrants themselves, but also the many children they are having that grow up to commit crime at rates even higher than their parents. And the problem does not go away even after three generations.

    This is the main subject of this thread: Multiculturalists immediately blame poverty and social factors for the high crime rates of these migrant ethnic minorities. Even if this was true, these migrants are still bringing crime. And any further efforts made to reduce their poverty are going to be very costly to the taxpayer, although the argument can easily be made that giving them free handouts would be cheaper than what their crime ends up costing to businesses, law enforcement, the legal systems, and the prisons. Although I hold the opinion that ethnic genetic predisposition is the main cause, I have no doubt that poverty and structural factors also contribute to ethnic crime rate. My question is this: even if you assume that ethnic crime is only caused by poverty, what does this have to do with not wanting to take in more migrants? These migrants bring poverty with them, and their children grow up in poverty. And "affirmative action" policies only shift the job opportunities away from the white population to give to the ethnic minorities. Would not this, by your reasoning, just increase the crime committed by whites by the same level?

    Naive european multiculturalists even suggest that these minorities will eventually completely integrate into society.
    What about the Africans in America? They have never fully integrated, and the crime rate for this ethnic group remains statistically higher- shockingly so.
     
  2. Anders Hoveland

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    Just to clarify, by no means am I suggesting that all ethnic minorities have high crime rates.

    And I am not claiming that most individuals who are migrants commit crime.

    So the question is whether it is fair to keep out 8 asylum seekers because statistically 1 of them will be a criminal.
     
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    Illegal immigrants bring in the Italian mafia, Israeli mafia, Russian mafia, Irish mafia, and others ~ all with their drugs, pornography, crime, murder, tax evasion and other maladies. It is time to send them back home.
     
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    Ohhhhhhh, you're a racist just like me then. Just a selective racist.

    I see...
     
  5. Anders Hoveland

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    Do Americans remember when racial tension was tearing the USA apart in the early 1970's ? There were violent black riots in several major cities, and some observers actually thought the blacks would stage a revolution and take over the government. Some ethnic groups are not able to integrate into society as much as other ethnic groups. Clearly diversity brings problems. Why is it being encouraged?

    This indeed was a historic immigration concern. Many did not want to let in Italians, Jews, or the Irish (although there was a distinction made between the "light" Irish that actually had more genetic contributions from norwegian vikings). Thankfully, quotas were used to keep too many Italians from coming in.

    Even to this day, Italian mafia crime has still caused problems in the USA. Plenty of corrupt Italians in the state of New Jeresy. It took a century for Italian crime to lessen to the current acceptable levels today. I think part of the Americas should have put separated off for the southern europeans and jews to live in their own nations.
     
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    cool story, bro.

    now where's the study that supports your statistical claims?


    What do you mean by 'ethnic crime'?
     
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    What?? Who said that??? Where am I?????? What's going on????????? :confused:
     
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    A lot of ethnic migrants are treated like second class citizens or worse and end up living in poverty which increases the odds if crime taking place.

    Here in america blacks were one race treated this way for generations then the government forced them into dependency with generational welfare. Places where blacks were able to break free of this type of culture and get proper education, they have shown to be just as successful as any other race.

    This fact is often ignored by racist pigs.
     
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    Do you not know how to read quotes?

    When something is 'quoted' it is an unaltered transcript of what is stated.

    The adults are talking here, go play with your White Legos.
     
  10. Anders Hoveland

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    I can tell you that the muslims in Scandinavia get all sorts of special preferential treatment. When they rape or murder, they are shown unbelievable leniency by the courts. People dare not say anything openly in public, or even to their friends, that has the slightest potential of being offensive.

    They are given so many free things, most Americans would not believe it. None of these migrants lives in true poverty, at least not what would be considered poverty in the United States. The state pays for an apartment, food, healthcare, education, even pays for their bus ticket. Not to mention special funding for ethnic cultural programs.

    I do not know about the minorities in the USA, but one certainly could not call ethnic minorities in Scandinavia "oppressed". (I have heard, however, that muslims in the UK live in very inadequate living arrangements due to the high cost of housing, despite many free benefits from the government.)


    Go back and read my post. How does "poverty causing crime" have anything to do with whether or not they should be allowed to stay? They are poor. Are you proposing taxing everyone else to give out free money so all the outsiders that we take in will not commit so much crime? How much would this cost?

    As for employment discrimination, someone is not going to get the decent paying jobs. Employers do not just discriminate against minorities when there is a job that needs to be done and no one else is willing to fill it. Are you saying it should be more european people that should be unemployed and poor to make room for the newcomers?
     
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    Disease too ...:bandaid:
     
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    Germany experiencing nationwide spike in migrant-driven crime...
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    Germans Scramble To Buy Weapons Amid Nationwide Spike In Migrant-Driven Crime
    12/21/2015 - The scramble to acquire weapons comes amid an indisputable nationwide spike in migrant-driven crime, including rapes of German women and girls on a shocking scale, as well as physical assaults, stabbings, home invasions, robberies and burglaries — in cities and towns throughout the country.
     
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    Where they gonna deport `em to?...
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    EU mulls 'large-scale' migrant deportation scheme
    Mar 3,`16 -- Turkey is under growing pressure to consider a major escalation in migrant deportations from Greece, a top European Union official said Thursday, amid preparations for a highly anticipated summit of EU and Turkish leaders next week.
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    NATO Commander: Terrorists, Criminals Hidden Among Refugees Flooding Europe
    Wednesday 2nd March, 2016 | WASHINGTON -- NATO's top commander said the massive influx of refugees into Europe is providing cover for terrorists and criminals and that poses increasing danger for an attack.
     
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    The "acts of love" from our southern neighbors are killing Americans
    The "widows and orphans" from the Middle East & North Africa are literally raping Europe.
     
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