Evidence of Political motive behind Trump trials

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  1. popscott

    popscott Well-Known Member Donor

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    @fullmetaljack
    Just one example of many of the "swill" weaponizations you seem to be unaware of.... it don't get any more in your face weaponization than this...

    ""Outrageous lies by Joe Biden, Attorney General Merrick Garland, and DOJ/Jack Smith about "independence" from investigations into Trump. The Biden White House and DOJ were intimately involved in developing a criminal case against Trump for records mismanagement--it appears the first go-around related to alleged "destruction" of government papers. Contrary to public and legal assertions, NARA was working with DOJ/White House to craft a criminal referral by Sept. 2021--FIVE MONTHS before the "official" referral by NARA to DOJ in Feb 2022. (Govt redactions on left, newly unredacted filing on right.)""

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    since the day trump rode down the escalator, everything he has said or did has been documented ..

    unlike others that have been wrongly accused , trumps crimes are documented

    the justice system is NOT perfect..

    sadly, once in a while, a wrongly accused person becomes a victim of the system and found guilty of a crime the person did not commit...99.9% of the time this happens is because of a bad defense lawyer..trump has spent millions on defense attorneys


    when a person is wrongly accused and convicted, it is because the evidence was not accurate

    trump is on video confessing to crimes ...

    and in the last 2 weeks he committed a crimes by defying the gag order 9 times
     
  4. Kal'Stang

    Kal'Stang Well-Known Member

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    People have also been convicted simply because of their skin color. IE: Personal biases.

    Yes, everything Trump has done has been documented. The problem being that how those things that were done is that a lot of it is highly dependent on interpretation. Trump has not done anything so blatant as kill someone. He has not stolen any property. Everything he is being charged with is highly subjective and can be left to individual interpretation. Is that really how you want our justice system to be?
     
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    Cybred Well-Known Member

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    Sorry but every time a dem is POTUS you guys say "He'll destroy the country"!. So far still waiting.
     
  6. gringo

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    trump stole classified documents that belonged to the government..he made false claims to avoid paying taxes.which us also a form of theft.

    and he made plans and telephone calls to illegally change the election results .. phone calls were recorded and if 12 jurrors listen to the recordings and decide he broke laws

    it does not matter what you and i believe about trump. The only people that are important in trump cases are the jurrors.
     
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    Depends on who you listen to doesn't it? Oh right...only one side "tells the truth" always...:rolleyes:

    Really? Then why isn't he being prosecuted for falsifying tax claims?

    False. If you actually read the transcript, or listened to the call, in a nut shell Trump was clearly asking for them to review the counts because of shenanigans going on and that if they did they would find false votes. He even referenced video that was shown of those shenanigans. The left likes to ignore that part of the conversation in order to focus on, and spin, the "find votes" comment.

    No, what's important is the WHOLE facts. Not partisan lawfare.
     
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    gringo Well-Known Member Donor

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    what world do you live??

    there are photos and charges filed against trump because he stole documents when leaving the white house

    trump just lost a lawsuit to the tune of a 1/2. Billion because he cooked the books to avoid paying taxes

    and dont forget. It is not only georgia trump was up to no good.
    Google “wisconsin and arizona election crimes”
     
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  9. Kal'Stang

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    Can't dispute so you resort to a one liner. Not surprised.

    Like it or not, your claim that "if there was no crime committed then there would be no prosecution" has thoroughly been debunked.
     
  10. StillBlue

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    Well, they do keep lowering the deficit, that's bad for the hyper-rich.
     
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    Only with his bare hands or can we include hired?

    There are many, many contractors and former employees would argue this point. How many 1000s of court cases has he had?

    Yep. Put *******s in prison and protect the population from them. The sooner he is in jail the sooner real Republicans can fight to take back their party from extremists.
     
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    We are here.... Tell us how great Biden is...
     
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    Uhh...of course they scheduled the trials before the election. There's a belief in this country that a sitting president cannot be prosecuted for crimes. If Trump wins the elections, the trials would have to wait years.

    If folks weren't so blinded by tribalism and devotion to a garbage person, they might actually be able to see that not everyone makes every decision purely on emotion. If I was a prosecutor who wasn't completely inept, I TOO would want to get my case to trial before the person becomes immune to prosecution.
     
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    It should be noted that the attempts for trial dates began as much as two years ago. I myself, if innocent, would have demanded quick trials to put them to rest. Of course, inversely, if guilty and there was any chance of being able to stop prosecutions, i probably would try and drag them out until I had the power. Oh sure, hundreds of millions would still look on me as guilty but I'd be free and able to do as I wish.
     
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    Saying that alone shows that you're too consumed by a hatred of Trump to be taken seriously on anything related to him. TTFN.
     
  16. StillBlue

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    Sorry. I've always felt that way towards charlatans. It's not so much a hatred as disgust that they could prey on people like they do.
     
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    There are two prongs to the defense strategy. One is to delay justice. As importantly, the other is to bitch, whine, and play the victim card in order to maintain support among The Following in the event a guilty verdict is reached. He has established a scenario in which he can not lose since being found innocent is a win while being found guilty makes him a martyr being persecuted by a corrupt system.
    The parallel to elections is clear. If he wins he claims to have overcome corruption (a rigged system) and if he loses he claims to have fallen victim to it. This way he maintains his status as a quasi-deity who never really loses.
     
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    What witch hunt?
     
  19. fullmetaljack

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    More swill and more fantasizing. It's really that simple. Your post belongs in "Conspiracy Theories".
     
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    Still swill. Phrases like "it appears the first go-around" show you are just making stuff up.
     
  21. Zorro

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    It's blowing up in their faces.

    'What’s that old saying about the “best-laid plans”? Democrats banked that a massive lawfare campaign against Donald Trump would strengthen their hold on the White House. As that legal assault founders, they’re left holding the bag known as Joe Biden.'

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    The Face Of DNC Lawfare Against Trump.

    'In Florida on Tuesday, Judge Aileen Cannon postponed indefinitely the start of special counsel Jack Smith’s classified-documents trial. The judge noted the original date, May 20, is impossible given the messy stack of pretrial motions on her desk. The prosecution is fuming, while the press insinuates—or baldly asserts—that the judge is biased for Mr. Trump, incompetent or both. But it is Mr. Smith and his press gaggle who are living in legal unreality, attempting to rush the process to accommodate a political timeline.'

    First they wait, then heated rush.

    'What did they expect? Mr. Smith waited until 2023 to file legally novel charges involving classified documents, a former president, and a complex set of statutes governing presidential records. The pretrial disputes—some sealed for national-security reasons—involve weighty questions about rules governing the admission of classified documents in criminal trials, discovery, scope and even whether Mr. Smith’s appointment as special counsel was lawful. Judge Cannon notes the court has a “duty to fully and fairly consider” all of these, which she believes will take until at least July. This could push any trial beyond the election.'

    Important point. Lying Jack's appointment may be unlawful.

    'Mr. Smith’s indictments in the District of Columbia, alleging that Mr. Trump plotted to overturn the 2020 election, have separately gone to the Supreme Court, where the justices are determining whether and when a former president is immune from criminal prosecution for acts while in office. A decision on the legal question is expected in June, whereupon the case will likely return to the lower courts to apply it to the facts. That may also mean no trial before the election.'

    I want Trump to lose the immunity case so that Barack can be tried for murdering that Colorado Teenager in a drone strike, or hitting that wedding that killed all the innocents, or, even FJB for slaughtering that family just trying to flee his stupid bugout when he deliberately lost the war in Afghanistan.

    Read the whole thing, access via RCP to avoid the pay wall

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ - then: Trump and the Lawfare Implosion of 2024
     
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    I thought people in USA are allowed to run even from jail. Is that not correct?
     
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    You may also want to criticize the huge delay in bringing the charges. Why did they wait so long? They could have charged him the moment he left office.
     
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    For classified documents and conspiracy to overturn the 2020 election? Not a chance. Those weren't delayed at all. Totally standard.

    I do recall there were reasons for delay in the New York one, which pertains more to actions in 2016 and 2017, but that's the only one that was really delayed in any sense, and ironically the one that is not delayed in trial.
     
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    They also could have charged him with insurection, which seems to be a constant accusation people make against him politically. Was he charged with that? And if not, why not?
     

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