http://www.fairus.org/issue/examples-of-serious-crimes-of-illegal-aliens Many people seem to think that illegals are just hard workers and are harmless.
Hard workers are harmless. Criminals are harmful. Whether they are here legally, illegally or were born here is irrelevant to that fact.
No its not because a) they're not supposed to be here and that crime would have been stopped if we had real border security and b) they're criminals just by entering this country illegally... It's pretty simple.
No kidding. That doesn't mean illegal = criminal. Spare me the "he's illegal by being here" retort. That's not what we're discussing.
Illegals are de facto criminals.... Name a country where I can just walk in, plop down and tell the host country to go f-off? I think the name of that country is NONE... That is besides the point - we wouldn't have crimes committed by illegals if we didn't have illegals and I could care less if they're working or not - if they want to work they can get a work visa, but if they're illegals then that means they stole a job from a US citizen - probably a black US citizen, and when they want welfare that means they're stealing from tax paying citizens... But hey, if you want illegals in the country then why don't you and other progressives sponsor them? oh yeah, no time or money for that right?
July 12, 2015 Battle Creek Enquirer Illegal alien groped teens in Michigan Adventure wave pool Flint, Mich. -- An Indiana man, who Michigan State Police say is an illegal immigrant, is facing charges for sexually groping two teenagers in a wave pool, at Michigan's Adventure. -- Eliazar Rivas-Rodriguez is accused of touching the 17-year-old girls over the Fourth of July weekend...... PoliticusUSA RINO Graham Admits That Trump Is Telling Hispanics Exactly What Republicans Think Of Them Senator Lindsey Graham (R-SC), who is running for his party's presidential nomination, was trying to lead Republicans out of the hate-filled rhetorical quicksand that has propelled “wrecking ball” Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump to the top of the polls, when he inadvertently admitted on CNN's State of the Union that what Trump was doing wrong was telling Hispanics “exactly what we think of you”. ..... NewsBusters Crime by Illegals Downplayed on Univision, Telemundo In recent days, the nation's leading Spanish-language networks, Univision and Telemundo, have touted the findings of The Criminalization of Immigration in the United States, a new study by the pro-amnesty American Immigration Council (AIC), which details how crime rates are lower among immigrants in comparison with the native-born U.S. population....... My LA News Trump: Clint Eastwood makes my day ...Jamiel Shaw II was a Los Angeles High School football standout who was shot and killed in 2008 near his Arlington Heights home by a gang member who prosecutors said mistakenly perceived him as a gang rival because he was carrying a red Spider-Man backpack. -- Pedro Espinoza, convicted of first-degree murder in 2012 and sentenced to death, was living in the United States without legal permission at the time of the killing...... WVUE -- New Orleans Illegals blockade ICE headquarters in support of ending deportations Drivers around city hall faced blocked streets as hundreds took part in a protest outside the Immigration and Customs Enforcement headquarters in New Orleans. -- They protested as the federal appeals court in New Orleans considered whether to block deportations of millions of undocumented immigrants...... Breitbart Reuters: Trump, Bush Locked in Dead Heat; Rubio Sinks to Tenth Place Real estate magnate and 2016 GOP presidential candidate Donald Trump has skyrocketed to Republican frontrunner status, as a new poll from Reuters/Ipsos has Trump tied for first place with former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush. The rest of the pack is far behind them. -- Trump pulled in 15.8 percent, compared to Bush's 16.1 percent in the poll of 404 self-identified Republicans taken from July 6 to July 10...... American Patrol Report Trump and Spencer Agreed on Iraq Donald Trump opposed invading Iraq --- Glenn Spencer: "Now let's understand something. We're fighting, possibly, a war, half way around the world against Iraq. Iraq is not a direct threat to us. But a recent poll showed that a vast majority of Mexicans believe the Southwest belongs to them.” (From the Heartland with Kasich - Feb. 1, 2003) [See video] Breitbart Trump: It 'Becomes Politically Incorrect' To Help People Harmed By Illegals' Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump said that “Whenever somebody hears that it was an illegal that was involved with the death of their children, it becomes politically incorrect for a politician to help them” at a press conference on Friday after meeting with the parents of children killed by illegal immigrants...... Breitbart TRUMP IN VEGAS: Slams Obama, Hillary, Jeb.... Crowd Goes Wild Republican candidate Donald Trump addressed the FreedomFest conference in Las Vegas, telling delegates of his underestimated wealth, his passion for securing America's border, the slanted portrayal of him in the mainstream media, and how he believes that China and Mexico have “smarter leaders” than the United States...... Washington Post Trump tells supporters, 'We have to take back the heart of our country' Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump, whose caustic comments about Mexicans have inflamed the immigration debate, told thousands of cheering supporters here Saturday that “we have to take back the heart of our country.” -- In a rambling, defiant speech delivered in this border state that has been the epicenter of the nation's divisive battle over immigration reform, Trump declared: “These are people that shouldn't be in our country. They flow in like water.” One man in the crowd of 4,200 shouted back, “Build a wall!”..... We Get E-Mail Letters From Around the Country Donald Trump is stating the truth. Many illegal immigrants pouring in from Mexico are violent criminals, murderers, sex offenders and drug dealers. -- Just one recent, horrific example: Kathryn Steinle, a 32-year-old woman, was fatally shot on July 1 while walking with her father and a family friend in a waterfront area in San Francisco, Her alleged killer, Francisco Sanchez, was an illegal alien with seven felony convictions who had been deported five times to Mexico. ....... July 11, 2015 Philadelphia Daily News Innocent Citizens Pay For Our Lawless Government's Bad Decisions Only an imbecile would deny that 32-year-old Kathryn Steinle would be alive today if San Francisco were not a sanctuary city. -- Stubborn, self-righteous city leaders enabled Steinle's death by turning loose five-times-deported Juan Francisco Lopez-Sanchez, 56, with seven felony convictions, knowing the feds wanted him...... Daily Caller Sanctuary Cities: No Peace And No Justice Donald Trump has ignited a firestorm with his statements about the failure of the United States to secure the Southwest border and prevent criminal aliens from Mexico entering the United States and committing violent crimes. In point of fact, the emphasis on the U.S./Mexican border while understandable, ignores the fact that the United States has 50 “border states.”..... Breitbart Photos, Videos: Protesters Square Off Outside Donald Trump Los Angeles Speech 2016 presidential candidate Donald Trump drew protesters and counter-protesters outside a Los Angeles hotel as he addressed a group of Hollywood conservatives Friday evening. -- Trump's plans to address the group Friends of Abe was leaked to entertainment news outlets, informing pro-amnesty protesters of the event's time and venue. The activists, angered by Trump's condemnation of violent crime by illegal immigrants, displayed signs in English and Spanish, plus a piñata in Trump's likeness...... Breitbart Families of Americans Killed by Illegal Aliens Speak After Meeting with Donald Trump The parents of two individuals killed by illegal immigrants blasted the federal government's handling of illegal immigrants who are arrested for other crimes on Thursday's “Hannity” on the Fox News Channel. -- Anita Shaw, whose son Jamiel Jr., was killed walking home after an illegal immigrant gang member with a prior criminal history confused him for a rival gang member stated, “I'm very angry because it makes no sense...... Westside Today Trump Meets With Families in Beverly Hills, Slams U.S. Immigration Policy Donald Trump met privately in Beverly Hills today with families of people who were killed by assailants in the country illegally and repeated his condemnation of U.S. immigration policies, insisting that other countries send criminals to the United States, which gladly accepts them. -- “So you have the illegals come in and the illegals kill their children, and we better get smart in the United States,” the Republican presidential candidate said...... Politico Obama immigration orders likely headed for new legal setback President Barack Obama appears likely to lose – again – in the protracted legal fight over his executive actions on immigration. -- Two of the three appeals court judges who heard oral arguments Friday on the Obama administration's immigration programs were skeptical about the legal merits of the directive, which could halt deportations for more than 4 million immigrants here illegally who have family ties in the United States...... Reuters Judges presiding over the case involving Obama's immigration actions are 'divided' and 'skeptical' U.S. appeals court judges on Friday appeared divided as they considered President Barack Obama's effort to shield more than 4 million illegal immigrants from deportation, a policy put on hold by a lower court as a presidential overreach. -- A three-judge panel of the 5th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals heard arguments in the Obama administration's appeal of the lower court ruling...... July 10, 2015 Breitbart Trump Forced to Move Event 'Due to Overwhelming Response' Support for GOP presidential candidate Donald Trump continues to spike, causing the campaign to change venues for its Saturday event. -- “Due to the overwhelming response for Saturday's Rally in Phoenix, Arizona the venue has been changed to accommodate the thousands of people expected to attend and the event will now take place at the Phoenix Convention Center,” Trump's press secretary Hope Hicks wrote in a press release...... http://americanborderpatrol.com/
That's precisely what we're discussing. He already committed a crime by invading the sovereign(Well, I'm not sure of how 'sovereign' it is with Americans like you) United States of America. Why? For political votes! So you can feel better, your "hearts and minds". Frankly, I'm at the point where illegal immigrant supporters are committing and abetting acts of treason against America. It's no different from supporting a foreign invader and their military. Only this is an indvidual(and groups of individuals). The world has now learned how to conquer America: Just ask every foreigner to fly into the country, papers be damned. That's exactly how 9/11/01 happened, that's how Boston Marathon happened and that's how the next one will probably happen too. And if/when it does, it's not very likely to change the minds of the supporters.
Oh brother. I oppose illegal immigration. Always have. Not a progressive. Never have been. All I said was being an illegal does not make one a criminal, despite in the de facto sense which I asked you to spare me from. You know, this left/right divide is beyond stupid sometimes. Like I said, I oppose illegal immigration. When discussing this on a liberal forum, I was called a racist right wing nut job. You call me a progressive. You're both nuts. - - - Updated - - - Riiight. That's not at all what the OP is discussing.
"Alexis Flores", kidnapped, raped, murdered a 5 year old girl. He was arrested once in 2002 and WAS NOT deported. (He was here illegally) He was arrested later in 2005 and was finally deported, to bad it was shortly after he decided to murder and rape a 5 year old child.
Any American who employs an illegal also is illegal! How many of them get arrested? Until Obama, just about NONE! Including our Mr. Trump, who part made his daddy's millions become billions in part by screwing America by illegals! All Republicans are a 100% FAIL at stopping dangerous illegals!
I agree with this part of your comment Dave, I'm sure it is close to the same as those that break the law with straw purchases of guns. I wonder why Obama and democrats don't enforce these laws? As far as Trump and his turning millions into billions, only a socialist loon would think that is a bad thing Please provide the evidence Trump makes his money off of illegals like you say?
This is true, and if one opposes illegal immigration, then they must also oppose the people/organizations who're employing them. These employers are complicate, and deserve harsh punishment. These are traitorous people.
That graph doesn't show anything about illegals though. If you also included that statistic, the white (and black) section would be almost non existent.
Trump has used bankruptcy as one of his tools to screw everyone else and enrich himself at everyone else's expense! At that point we can all have 100% agreement. But sorry, a good President of our country should be working to make the country and ALL of us do better, not just himself.
