Face masks made ‘little to no difference’ in preventing spread of COVID, scientific review finds

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  1. gfm7175

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    Your question is irrelevant for the reasoning I already described in my prior response.
     
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    Nope. It was largely untested.
     
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    What were the Trump guidelines?
     
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    very relevant, cause had the States still listened to Trump's guidelines, they would still be closed
     
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    You're flat wrong about the testing before final approval.
     
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    You should look up "genocide."
     
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    You should stop mischaracterizing the covid vaccines, including those that aren't mRNA.
     
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    This is all fair for the most part, and I'll take your word for your posting history (I see no reason to doubt it). I've likewise changed my views quite a bit (over just the past few years alone even). I similarly was "a Republican"... I'm not "a Republican" at all nowadays, but I do still hold conservative views on most things and I do strongly support the MAGA movement.

    This is where I have to strongly disagree with you. First off, there is no "our democracy". That specific language is nothing more than mindlessly parroted leftist garbage. The USA, during its existence, was always a republic, specifically a federated republic. I could dive into more detail about the differences between each type of government if you'd like, but there IS a reason why the "pledge of allegiance" refers to a republic and why the USA Constitution also refers to a republic.

    With regard to a "greater threat to our [republic]", I would say that there isn't really a "greater threat" between the RNC and the DNC because they are both nothing more than subsidiaries of the rich elitist globalist politicians and bureaucrats who are "running the show" (call it "Deep State"... call it "Weaponized Intelligence Branch of Government"... call it whatever you wish... I also call it "The Uniparty"). IOW, it's ultimately "the elites" vs "the plebs"... RNC vs DNC at its core is nothing more than a culture-wars-based distraction in order to keep the plebs fighting against each other instead of against "the elites".

    P.S. --- watch the RNC and the DNC for how they react to certain things that threaten their status quo... You will notice that the RNC gets the most riled up and angry whenever their money is threatened, and the DNC gets the most riled up and angry whenever their power is threatened. Together, the Uniparty wants both money and power, and both wings of the Uniparty bird (RNC & DNC) equally hate Trump with a passion because he represents a major threat to both their money AND their power ("the status quo").

    This dynamic is why I wholeheartedly support President Trump and the MAGA movement despite his personal flaws... because that's not what is important right now... "Our republic" has already been lost to the Uniparty and has been turned into an oligarchy... MAGA is fighting to restore this nation back into a republic once again.

    I have to once again very strongly disagree with you. There is MOUNTAINS of evidence for election fraud in the 2020 (s)elections, and it's not just a "right wing thing" to question election integrity. The left have been claiming election fraud since at least 2000 ("hanging chads"). They did so again in 2004, 2016, 2018 (Stacy Abrams in GA), and even today as we speak there are Democrats claiming election fraud in Hinds County Mississippi (a very leftist county btw) and they are calling for resignations and audits and etc. --- Too many voters on all sides of the isle take election integrity for granted without even questioning it one bit. E.g. McConnell is HATED by ALL sides of the isle, yet he keeps "getting re-elected"... How?

    And there's no crime TO hold Trump accountable for... Why won't anyone hold Biden and Pence accountable for the CLASSIFIED documents that THEY STOLE (they weren't the top executive)? Why won't anyone hold Hillary accountable for the emails that she destroyed and for selling out her office to foreign nations? Why won't anyone hold Biden accountable for selling out his office to foreign nations? And on and on and on....

    Yet Trump, who hasn't committed a crime, is the one who is being impeached, indicted, and otherwise persecuted....... E.g. the dumbass governor Sununu recently said that impeaching Biden would be "unhealthy for the country".... Ummmmm where was he with that bullshit "above the fray" rhetoric when Trump was being impeached??? These corrupt losers all play for the same team, and it's NOT my team.

    It's not about Trump; it's about his nationalist pro-feasible-fuels energy and pro- US worker trade policies, and his anti-war foreign policies. There's a reason why basic necessities were so affordable under Trump and so unaffordable under Biden and any other Uniparty hack. Unfortunately no other candidate with any chance of winning is free from the control of elitist globalist donor interests nor champions those same aforementioned policies.
     
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    were you one that in hindsight supported the shutdown and the reopen plan
     
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    I don't think so. Never believed in the shutdown and the reopen was a farce. Especially as it pertained to schools. Masks were useless, just a sugar tit to keep the masses feeling the govt was doing something when they really weren't. I got three shots, second I had a very mild reaction and the third one made me sick. I'll not get anymore. I don't subscribe to the idea it was poison or that it was useless but I do believe there is little advantage left to them.
     
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    It isn't now, is it?
     
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    oh, I got confused when you asked what was wrong with them, thought that meant you supported the Trump shutdown

    when the government says something is so dangerous everything needs shutdown, it makes it hard to now say everything is safe, you can reopen while the pandemic is still happening and you still have a declared national emergency for it, the government screwed itself and us
     
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    There were a lot of people whose job it was to assess the threat and recommend a defense. Trump's job and Biden's was to choose the best course and act on it. I think they probably both did, politics not withstanding.

    As for me, I followed the demands and the actions of people .I wore a mask when it was required and didn't where I was free to choose. Hindsight tells me we did more damage to ourselves than covid did.
     
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    same, did not cost me anything to wear a mask in a store that required it
     
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    You explaining government? :no: :lol:

    We're a constitutional representative democratic republic. The Pledge of Allegiance in its present form, minus the "under God" nonsense, was created more than 100 years after our Constitution was adopted.
    Yeah, Trump really respects the Constitution. That's why he tried to steal the 2020 election.
    You're trying to deflect attention from this...?

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    No... they would've all been opened up by Easter 2020.
     
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    There are no covid vaccines... there are only mRNA jabs. Different mRNA jabs have different methods for delivering the mRNA, but there are no traditional vaccines for COVID as one would think of a "flu shot".
     
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    As MAGA Republican, it's not at all surprising you would miss that Trump turned himself and the Republican Party into laughingstocks.

    Trump will never be able to lead the American people who dislike Trump.

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    Four more years of Trump and the Republican Party will be seriously, perhaps fatally, damaged.
     
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    I have. Webster says "Systematic, planned annihilation of a racial, political or cultural group." The bioweapons delivered by Pfizer and Moderna do all of the above.
     
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    View attachment 223746

    Four more years of Trump and the Republican Party will be seriously, perhaps fatally, damaged.[/QUOTE]
    You are under the impression that Biden is doing much better?

    https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/biden-approval-rating/
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    These coming elections will be determined by the independents as normal. Those independants will most likely have the war as their top issue going into the elections and how impacts the economy.

    As of last month, those independants do not want to support Ukraine anymore. So fully expect that as Americans continue to struggle in their day to day lives...and with every Biden support package sent to Ukraine - his popularity will dwindle. He has exactly 1 year to turn the economy around. And right now he's willing to sell out all our oil reserves to do that. (nice huh?) Instead of either expanding oil production with Canada or putting pressure on domestic oil companies to produce...he's willing to just destroy our reserves to try and prop up his popularity for an election. Because it's not like Saudi Arabi/OPEC or Russia are going to suddenly play nice after the elections.

    One candidate is all in on Ukraine until the bitter end, supporting another forever war.
    One candidate is vowing to end the war in 24 hours.

    And that's just ONE policy. Trump's foreign policies were better, Trump's domestic policies were better, his border policies were better and his economic policies were better. Trump was just better.

    You better hope you can prevent Trump from having the ability to run.
     
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    Calling shots that save lives a "bioweapon" is ridiculous.
     
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    The shots don't save lives LM. To claim in public that they do is a public confirmation of ignorance, 3 years in. The shots kill and maim. Under 18USC175 they are bioweapons. That you are in denial about that is a personal problem. :peace:
     

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