Fact check: Did the Obama administration deplete the federal stockpile of N95 masks?

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  1. Professor Peabody

    Professor Peabody Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Fancy that the Obama/Biden administration depleted the strategic stores of N95 masks and never replaced them.

    That's real comical coming from Biden, who wrote the article above. It was his and Obama's administration that had 7 long years to replace the Medical equipment they used in the 2009 H1N1 pandemic......but didn't. So now Biden thinks he's the guy to handle the next pandemic. Geez, the Obama/Biden administration even failed to restrict travel and stop cross border traffic with Mexico unless deemed necessary. I highly doubt anyone from the left media will ever ask him why that wasn't done. Joe is like the old cow that doesn't give milk anymore and the Bulls aren't interested in. The only "White House" Joe belongs in is the old age rest home. Just put a podium with the Presidential seal on it in his room, I doubt he'll know the difference.
     
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    Not only that, but the geniuses imposed an excise tax on medical device manufacture to make sure administrations that followed would struggle to replace the millions of masks they used. Here is what the tax foundation said about the tax:
    July 12, 2018
    New Research Provides More Reasons to Repeal the Medical Device Tax

    Key Findings
    • The medical device tax is a 2.3 percent excise tax on the value of medical devices sold domestically. The tax was packaged in the Affordable Care Act to help cover its cost.
    • The medical device tax fails most tests for good policy and is fundamentally flawed in its structure.
    • New research shows that many of the predicted negative effects from the medical device tax occurred, both to the companies and to consumers.
    • In 2013, the medical device tax lowered industry research and development spending by $34 million.
    • The tax is responsible for the loss of approximately 21,800 jobs from 2013 to 2015.
    https://taxfoundation.org/new-research-provides-more-reasons-to-repeal-the-medical-device-tax/
     
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    SO, what you are saying is, IT IS THE RESPONSIBILITY of the federal GOV to supply the states in need with the supplies necessary to combat dangerous and communicable illnesses?
     
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    Once again, it seems like Biden's opponents are grasping at straws, and Trump's supporters are (apparently) looking for any place to lay the blame.

    Regardless of anything that happened years ago in a previous administration there is 1 FACT:

    Since the beginning of February, 100% of what has happened is Trump's FAULT.

    Everything from downplaying the virus, to saying it was going to away in the spring, to hoping for a miracle, to calling the Virus a "Hoax".

    And, the latest installment of "But...Obama..." (Whataboutism) falls flatly on deaf ears.
     
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    Nope. Nothing in the Constitution about the Federal Government running State inventories of critical equipment. However, in the event of emergencies, FEMA can act in a support role to facilitate the stocking of state warehouses ,,, even when states screw up, like Cuomo losing his warehouse and needing Trump to tell him where it is ,,, or Cuomo getting NY into a failed light bulb business and a failed solar panel business after being told he had insufficient ventilators.

    It is the job of ChiCom trolls to blame Trump for Biden's past failures. Given that Biden enabled the sale of US stealth technology currently being used in the J-20 fighter for a cool $1.5B in Hunter's pocket, it's understandable that a firm with deep ties to China payed Connecticut Senator Chris Murphy $151,000 to, among other things, blame a Chinese Virus on Trump. Do you know any other ChiCom trolls?
     
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    Hearing voices?

    At the beginning of February, Trump's China travel restrictions kicked in. Restrictions that Democrats called xenophobic. The day before Mardi Gras, February 24, Pelosi invited Americans to visit Chinatown because all was safe. It was safe until John Bel Edwards failed to postpone Mardi Gras and invited sick Europeans to infect NYC on the way to infecting NOLA and surrounding states.
    Feb25MardiGras.jpg

    Nothing says pandemic like American Progressives flying through NYC to Madrid, Spain on March 8 to pick up some corona and bring it back
    March8IntWomensDay.jpg

    In a perfect world, one without Democrats or any flavor of Progressive, with his travel restrictions in place, Trump would have been right at the beginning of February. No one could have predicted the degree of stupid that reintroduced the virus and ramped it up. We used to think that anyone that dumb couldn't figure out how to breath. Alas, we would have been right. Think of all those ventilators.
     
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    Yup.

    And Trump was hoping for a "miracle" and calling the Virus a "Hoax".

    Pot Meet Kettle.:salute:
     
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    So it looks like the Obama administration AND the Trump administration made the same mistake by not replenishing the
    masks. That would equally disqualify Trump and Biden. But you're going to pretend that Trump has no responsibility cause he's not really the President who is in charge of these things. He is the blameless President who acted "perfect".
     
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    Yup, it was stupid to have not cancelled Mardi Gras on Feb. 24th.
    So what would you call holding a campaign rally in North Carolina on Feb. 28th?

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    By the way, Virologists have traced most East Coast Covid-19 infections as having come out of Europe, not China, so Trump's travel ban would have been ineffective. So your post fails on many levels.
     
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    Which administration depleted the stockpile? ............. and didn't replenish it
     
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    Ugh the right wingers can’t do anything but blame Obama for their problems. It’s been almost 4 years people and you’re still blaming him? Come on, the left didn’t do this with bush and Obama.

    If this was really a concern, why didn’t trump replenish it when he had the chance?
     
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    Both administrations didn't replenish it. All you are doing is claiming that Trump was as incompetent as Obama.
     
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    Which administration had the last three years to replenish a depleted stockpile ... and didn’t replenish it?
     
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    Exactly. If one of my direct reports came to me and said, “the guy I took over from three years ago was totally incompetent. He depleted our emergency reserves of X and now there is nothing available for the current crisis”, I’d fire him the same day.
    Right now I’d don’t care how incompetent the previous guy was. I care about the competence of the guy in the role today. And if
    A. he didn’t fix a problem even though he had three years to do so and
    B. he is claiming it’s the fault of the previous guy
    he would out the door right quick.
     
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    If he hadn't restricted travel from hot spots in Europe, your TDS may have accidently resulted in reason to gloat. Your assertion does confirm that John Bel Edwards brought the disease into NYC and NOLA, making COVID a Democrat disease. The other piece was the International Womens Day spread from Europe to the US, making COVID a progressive disease. Let's just call it a Globalist Socialist virus.

    We're finding out that the disease was in California for a long time before it was diagnosed. It was probably asymptomatic due to the sun and lifestyle on the west coast. We're also finding out that mild and asymptomatic cases outnumber the cases we know about by a factor of between 50 - 85. In short, the disease was much ado about nothing relative to the seasonal flu.
     
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    You conveniently didn't answer the first question, so I'll ask again, which administration depleted the stockpile? We already know that answer, so it was Obama's responsibility to replenish that and he didn't. Trump can take some of the responsibility that he didn't follow behind the Obama administration to ensure they had done their job. But they didn't and here we are.
     
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    Actually, he called the hyping a hoax and he turned out to be right. CDC had to goose the diagnostic criteria to get the COVID fatalities to reach a level that wouldn't anger Americans who were booted out of work for nothing.
     
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    So you're claiming that CDC, under a director that Trump appointed in 2018, is making Trump look bad on purpose.
     
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    If our domestic supply chain for medical devices hadn't been taxed out of the country, it may have been a reasonable thing to expect. As it was, Trump had to hold the Defense Production Act over manufacturers' heads to get the devices produced.
     
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    It was impossible to replace the last 3 yrs?
    tRUMP is also incompetent
     
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    No, Trump had to promise to subsidize factory production because Americans can't work and live off $2.00 an hour.
    Taxes didn't drive out production, the Capitalist drive toward maximizing profits through cheap labor costs moved production to areas where living expenses are drastically lower.
     
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    Everyone knows they're cooking the numbers to make themselves look good. Nothing is making Trump look bad. He brought the experts in early and pretty much heeded their advice, only bucking their opinions when he knew he was right, like when Cuomo and Fauci incorrectly claimed that NY needed 30,000 ventilators.
     
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    So you're claiming Trump appointed a corrupt and incompetent director of the CDC.
     
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    Why do you lefties REFUSE to answer the actual question? Obama had 7 years to replenish it, so if you want anyone to take your little blame game seriously, you have to at least be honest. We can see right through you. We know you're terrified of losing the election yet again, but you're not doing your party any favors with blatant lies.
     
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    And you’re saying in four years he couldn’t do that? What a weak president, can’t do anything right.
     
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