Fact checking Mohammad movie: was Mohammad a rapist?

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  1. Marlowe

    Marlowe New Member

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    Shiva , whatever one may think - should be - its imo - unlikely that'll ever be. The culprits know that any half clever lawyer will succeed in defending them in a most western + israeli courts of Law .

    If justice is to be done, then they should be handed over to those they've offended.


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  2. Iolo

    Iolo Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    As far as I can see, Muslims still believe in their religion, whereas the other groups, Jewish and Christian, get economic or political benefit from pretending to
     
  3. Serfin' USA

    Serfin' USA Well-Known Member

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    If that's true, then that doesn't speak very highly of religion in general.

    In fact, going by that assumption, it can be logically deduced that the more secular a society is, the more sane it is.
     
  4. Talon

    Talon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Most Western and Israeli courts have no jurisdiction over this case.

    Because Westerners should submit to Islamic blasphemy laws and Shari'a courts. :roll:

    That's not justice, that's groveling dhimmi cowardice...
     
  5. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So in your Islamic mind, the justice towards a film insulting Mohamed, would be the handing over the producers to the Islamic barbarians...who of course, would prove that everything said about Mohamed and his followers are true..

    Kind of reminds me of when the Muslims became violent, because the Pope quoted a Byzantine Emperor who said the Muslims are violent. I guess they were trying to prove him right.:spin:
     
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    hiimjered Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Like Pakistan handed over Bin Laden?
     
  7. Iolo

    Iolo Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Depends on the economic and political position, I should think.
     
  8. Serfin' USA

    Serfin' USA Well-Known Member

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    Economics and politics surely play a part, but any society that kills people over offending a religion is not sane by any rational standard.
     
  9. Shiva_TD

    Shiva_TD Progressive Libertarian Past Donor

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    The last statement confused justice with revenge.

    In fact the possible plaintiff's (i.e. the actors) stand a very good chance of winning a civil suit in a court of law as their rights were violated by the nefarious actions of the producers in post production. Americans are very protective when it comes to violations of contract law and the intentional deception by the producers related to the employment contract is a very serious violation of contract law.

    As was also noted there are grounds for a criminal complaint based upon the fraudulent contract as that fraud reasonably endangered the actors in the movie. Once agian I believe there are very good grounds for a criminal complaint and I believe that the fact the actions of the producers were nefarious could be proven in a court of law.
     
  10. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So if I believed wearing a beard is offensive, and you wore a beard and I hit you, you would be arrested for inciting violence? Brilliant! :winner:

    Now I think the best thing to do to stop the violence would be to keep insulting :fight: :megaphone: Mohamed until they get use to it. I mean how long can they go on like this? :bonk:
     
  11. Shiva_TD

    Shiva_TD Progressive Libertarian Past Donor

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    The Afghan government offered to turn over bin Ladin to a neutral criminal court for prosecution at a time when they knew where he was. Unfortunately the Bush Adminstration refused that offer to bring bin Ladin to justice and thousands of Americans, not to mention tens of thousands of others, have since died because of Bush's decision.
     
  12. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    But why do it? Wouldn't the Islamists see it as weakness and try to impose even more of their views on the West? In that sense it would be counter productive. :confuse:
     
  13. Iolo

    Iolo Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What rational standard justified the Iraq War, for instance, or the War on Drugs? Any society but democratic socialism is insane - has to be, or it couldn't keep going against all the evidence.
     
  14. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I know that the Taliban was asked to hand him over to the U.S. to be prosecuted and they refused. So who would this neutral court be, other than an Islamic one? Certainly it wouldn't be the Hague. :confuse:
     
  15. Serfin' USA

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    Hey, we've got room for improvement too. It's just that we're closer to rational than these other places.
     
  16. Gator

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    Intentionally. Mooslums and moo-hamud is a slur against islam. Try to stay up to speed.
     
  17. Gator

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    The movie did not incite violence.

    The movie presented a viewpoint, the proper response in any civilized society is to debate and disprove the viewpoint.

    Individual freedom and concepts such as freedom of speech and debate in the public square require a certain level of intelligence, maturity and respect. Obviously the muslim world has not reached that level of development yet.

    Therefore, we should treat muslims in a manner they understand. Kill an American, and 100 muslims die.
     
  18. FreedomSeeker

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    The savagery of Mohammad is to blame. If they were doing a movie on, say, Ghandi, they wouldn't have put that that person committed rape, had sex with a little girl playing with dolls, murdered critics (that old lady they pulled apart with camels in the movie - sick!), his ridiculous reason for banning adoption (his own sexual lust for a lady close to him), etc.

    Because of Mohammad, people suffer to this very day by following his example.
     
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    You are probably right.
    But this issue is about 0.01% as important as the question of whether the film is accurate in it's claims about Mohammad. Where do you think the film got it wrong (if any)?
     
  20. FreedomSeeker

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    OJLeb, Marlowe, and Margot, etc. don't seem to think that's the solution. They seem (please correct me if I'm wrong) to think that censoring the MESSENGER is the best course of action.
    Actually the best course of action is adopting a different belief system all-together, obviously. I know I'VE moved on from the Abrahamic fairy tales.
     
  21. Abu Sina

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    if you READ the hadith and studied the timelines and dates of events you would see that she was 19

    I have already posted the hadith to prove she was 19. Do you believe the hadith or not?
     
  22. Abu Sina

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    obviously you have not moved on

    you seem in fact to be obsessed and spend hours each day discussing it

    seems you maybe need some therapy to allow you to stop allowing something you moved on from taking up so much of your life

    grab hold of a Yellow pages and get some professional help
     
  23. NeoGiills

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    Actually you're supporting jews and lives non-Islamic society so don't know about ISLAM ! you should need to know some history... why Hitler kill jews, basically us politicals and some us christain make other ppl fool by their false evidence or proof....
    america is a terrorist not ISLAM, obama is racist terror person ever on earth....and ppl like u support him...
    if you live in middle east or in Muslim state you'll know what is ISLAM , muslims lives in non-muslims states don't know proper about ISLAM...
    they went out side just for money not to live like MUSLIM...
    hope you get ryt answer, remember first look your self before insulting someone...
    May ALLAH bless u.
     
  24. dixon76710

    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

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    Bukhari hadith says she was 6 when married, 9 when consummated. Many Sunnis view the Bukhari hadiths to be the most authoritative hadiths.
     
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    As opposed to Egyptians who spend hours each day going ape (*)(*)(*)(*) postal in the streets, filled with the obsessive rage of allah. Guy that made the movie was an Egyptian Copt who had immigrated to the US. Why dont you just trash some local churches like you normally do?
     

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