“Darwinism uniquely DOES solve (the astronomic improbability of eyes and knees, enzymes and elbow joints) . . . . by breaking the improbability up into small, manageable parts . . . and crawling up the gentle slopes, inch by million-year inch.” - Richard Dawkins, Climbing Mount Improbable, page 77 Let us examine Richard Dawkins' statistical ignorance. "Breaking the improbability up into small, manageable parts...." The naturalistic synthesis of a complex polypeptide, such as human hemoglobin, is too "improbable" to have been accomplished in one or even a few steps. But inch by million-year inch, it was oh so easy? Pretending that probabilities change when done more slowly is the height of ignorance. Flipping a coin and getting a "tails" represents 1 chance in 2, whether you flip the coin every second or just once every 100 years. Adding the next random amino acid to a sequence represents 1 chance in 20, whether the next successive amino acid is added every hour or just once per thousand years. Dawkins twisted so much that he wrote, I wonder how he has so many millions of adoring, gullible followers.
Probabilities DO depend on Chances as much as raw 'odds'. Your odds of winning the Powerball suck. But if you buy 1000 tickets a week for 2 Billion years, your chances of winning become a Probability of winning Many times despite the seeming long odds. Time/number of chances AT winning do matter. To calculate one must have Both sides of the chance ledger. Further, looking at something that's happened AFTER the fact, and then saying it's unlikely is bogus. ANY given Single scenario that happened by millions of chanceS each over a billion years is always going to Look unlikely. Pick up and throw 10,000 pick up sticks 10,000 times and then claim ANY given result is "perfect'/'amazing'/'unlikely', but SOME arrangement will happen and then, AFTER the fact, you claim it's god/dog because it's 10k-to-the-10k power. So you use TWO Fallacies. As always using the Bogus 'Argument from Incredulity'/'Ignorance' as a mainstay and really Perverse/obtuse 'odds'/Disingenuity. (Oh, and Out of context Quote Mining) Lying for Jesus You can't debate me/50 others you have on Ignore, and I will continue to Crush your pathetic and goofy creationist boners. `
Correction. Nobody has provided any evidence whatsoever of a species gradually transitioning into another species. The fossils that are called transitional species don't have any evidence from whence they came. It's only assumed since there is no evidence to provide the species that have gradually transitioned into that species. Right now they are complete species that have no evidence of being another. You and everyone else have failed to produce the evidence of any species gradually transitioning into another. That's where you can "start over". Produce the evidence of a species gradually transitioning into another species.
ToE isn't true. It's nothing but extrapolation with artistic renderings. Please provide evidence of a species gradually transitioning into another species. You, and every other pro ToE, have not produced a single shred of evidence. Why? It's because that evidence doesn't exist and from your insistence of not providing that evidence tell us that it never existed.
You repeat this LIE daily. The "evidence" is "Transitional" fossils, Similar DNA, etc Hark/Duh. Many ONLY predicted/predictable BY Evolution. Sure enough, years or decades later, they Are found. Many with (another EVIDENCE) Anatomical Remnants of those transitional species/ancestors. and.. more transitional fossils are found every year and evo is more affirmed every year. Further... ALL species are 'transitional' or go extinct. There are no 'final' or 'immaculate' forms. Which is WHY Dishonest creationists here only post under their own headlines, ignoring/Avoiding, ie, my Yesterday's entry More Strong Evidence for Evolution: Anatomical Vestiges http://www.politicalforum.com/index...nce-for-evolution-anatomical-vestiges.507176/ `
Correction, you of all people have yet to produce any evidene of a species gradually transitioning into another. All that's been offered is a species here and a species there with nothing to connect them except extrapolation, i.e. guesswork. Wrong. I've never derailed or went a new direction. I want solid evidence of a species gradually transitioning into another species. You have and others have yet to produce a single piece of evidence. Wrong again. You can't produce any evidence to support your cause. Put up or shut up, as they say. As is your usual modus operandi, you won't. Why? Because you can't.
PrunePicker was answered on his Daily/100 times repeated Falsehood. NO reply to his main argument on the topic getting Gutted. Again: You repeat this Lie daily. (by ignoring evidence) The "evidence" is "Transitional" fossils, Similar DNA, etc Hark.. Many ONLY predicted/predictable BY Evolution. Sure enough, years or decades later, they Are found. Many with (another EVIDENCE) Anatomical Remnants of those transitional species/ancestors. and.. more transitional fossils are found every year and evo is more affirmed every year. Further... ALL species are 'transitional' or... go extinct. There are no 'final' or 'immaculate' forms. Which is WHY Dishonest creationists here only post under their own headlines, ignoring/Avoiding, ie, my Yesterday's entry More Strong Evidence for Evolution: Anatomical Vestiges http://www.politicalforum.com/index...nce-for-evolution-anatomical-vestiges.507176/ ` Have a nice page
Prunepicker demonstrates again and again that he does not understand the Biological Theory of Evolution in the first place.
Would you please provide an example of a species gradually transitioning into anothe Yet you provided nothing. But I'm not a creationist. I use science and only science. I'll wait for you to put up some evidence of a species gradually transitioning into another species.
I've made no false claims. They are all scientifically accurate. You have yet to produce a single shred of the evidence of a species gradually transitioning into another species. According to you you should be able to produce them. Why won't you?
In your reply you clearly listed every single example of a species gradually transitioning into another species. Just as science repeats with an sounding drone. There are no examples of a species gradually transitioning into another species.
That's all I'm looking for. You've yet to put up a single shred of evidence of a species gradually transitioning into another species. It should be everywhere. It should be happening before our very eyes. Yet there is nothing, except extrapolation and artistic renderings. Nothing concrete. Once you find that evidence then you can share it with us.
And...what would you accept as evidence? Examples of transitional fossils have been presented, we could point out animals with atavistic traits, scientific papers from modern scientists...yet so far they have been dismissed. Dismissed with no explanation beyond "It's all a crock of excrement." What would you need presented to make you at least think "well that is a good point, but here's what I have to refute it."? And that is the other side of this argument. No one here has presented evidence that even starts to answer questions about where the current diversity of comes from or why there are atavistic traits if there were no previous species for the to have come from. Right or wrong, at least the Evolutionists argue from a stronger point of view than "It's all a load of poopie...neener neener neener".
For DECADES, evolutionary biologists have been raising fruit flies, subjecting them to intense radiation to hasten mutations, and trying DESPERATELY to validate Darwinian evolution by scientific experiment. They have failed. Likewise, evolutionary biologists have been raising cultures of various bacteria, for the reason that they reproduce rapidly and have short lifespans. This gives the theoretical ability to observe Darwinian evolution over many thousands of lifetimes. Nothing. Resistance to antibiotics is adaptation. It is NOT the creation of new species, new organs, and new systems, all of which are required for the ascent into greater complexity. Here's a science book for Darwin's Sharia.
LYING again! You repeat this Lie daily. (by ignoring evidence) The "evidence" is "Transitional" fossils, Similar DNA, etc Hark.. Many ONLY predicted/predictable BY Evolution. Sure enough, years or decades later, they Are found. Many with (another EVIDENCE) Anatomical Remnants of those transitional species/ancestors. and.. more transitional fossils are found every year and evo is more affirmed every year. Further... ALL species are 'transitional' or... go extinct. There are no 'final' or 'immaculate' forms. ie Yes you are a creationist. If species didn't transform into one another, they were CREATED Separately, roughly AS IS. BTW, Evolution INCLUDES the less gradual 'Punctuated Equilibrium'. (Gould, Etheridge) Meaning it sometimes speeds up, ie, when a comet/meteorite hits earth, Ice Age, Mega-Volcano, etc. Environment causes faster adaptation/evolution. I have Continuously and in Dozens of my post including This one and the one Previous. You Simply and Dishonestly or deludedly deny it. As you do Every day, Every post. Longer version So how is someone supposed to deal with a Total Denialist, who just says "No," and doesn't even elucidate/Admit an alternative.
TOE makes logical conclusions based on empirical (the one we can observe, measure with our instruments, experiment with) evidence. Therefore it is a belief, a faith, a personal philosophy, an ideology and it cannot be argued from positions of physics, chemistry, genetics and similar, which have no use of the logic and absolutely no use of any kind of evidence. In difference from physics, chemistry, genetics and similar the only practical usage of the TOE has been usage of it in foundations of Marxist-Leninist ideology, in Nazi ideology and in such acts as Virginia Act of 1923. Nothing else. The results of the practical usage of the TOE are known, - hundreds of millions tortured, raped, starved to death and killed. Obviously the adepts of the TOE cannot be reasoned to in any social or personal plane. This is what ChemEngineer is pointing to. He is understandably upset as the adepts of the TOE keep on coming to express their hatred and anger, looking for blood and suppression of any questions or any quest for knowledge, looking for ridiculing and mocking any knowledge not related to logical conclusions based on empirical (the one we can observe, measure with our instrument, experiment with) evidence or in other words not related to their particular set of beliefs and common ideology.
I tend to avoid engaging with them. They are not worth the time. Lurkers and other posters, for the most part, will observe the same nonsense, fallacious reasoning, lies, disingenuous quote mines, etc. that these militant creationists use. Remember, that's all they have. And they repeat it over and over again.
WTF is that? One Flew over the Cuckoos nest? The quoted two sentences are totally off the wall/do not follow. 'Faith' (like gods/dogs/religions), is Belief withOut evidence and is a "personal ideology." Acknowledging Evidence and logical conclusions, OTOH, is Justified/scientific. Your definition is upside down, and a raging Perversion of the truth. Committable babble. Astronomy, a True science as well (Except according to your crazy Definition/defamation), uses mere observance of evidence. Evolution, beyond mere observance, uses many other sciences, such as archaeology, Biology/DNA, etc. The NAS/National Academy of Sciences says Evolution is the central unifying tenet of Biology. In fact, every new relevant Science of the last amazing 150 years has either been consistent with, or helped Confirm Evolution. WTF2! Evo only started 150 years ago, why don't you try pinning YOUR Inquisition, or Genghis Khan, Napoleon, Islamic conquest on it too. What a Laughable smear attempt. He, like you is trying to defend Ignorant Literal Genesis from the Truth by making Preposterous statements. Lying for Jesus. `
For anyone who cares about facts versus intellectual dishonesty (does God frown upon lying?) http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/ce/3/part12.html
