Fauci on working with Trump: 'I can't jump in front of the microphone and push him down'

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  1. Egoboy

    Egoboy Well-Known Member Donor

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    SNIP
    “What about the travel restrictions?” asked Cohen. “President Trump keeps saying that the travel ban for China, which began [Feb. 2], had a big impact [on slowing the spread of the virus to the United States] and that he wishes China would have told us three to four months earlier and that they were ‘very secretive.’ It just doesn’t comport with facts.”

    “I know, but what do you want me to do?” replied Fauci. “I mean, seriously, Jon, let’s get real, what do you want me to do?”

    “The next time they sit down with him and talk about what he’s going to say, they will say, by the way, ‘Mr. President, be careful about this and don’t say that.’ But I can’t jump in front of the microphone and push him down. OK, he said it. Let’s try and get it corrected for the next time.”
    ENDSNIP

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/dr-antho...nt-trump-coronavirus-interview-131558331.html

    No, Dr. Fauci, that's technically true... pushing Trump down would involve levers and pullies and advanced engineering...

    Sarcasm aside, yes, you can jump in front of the microphone. YOU are the expert. HE is the doofus talking crap.

    Get in there and make it happen. It's NOT your job to "get it corrected for the next time". Get it right the FIRST time, as much as possible.

    Anybody disagree?
     
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    I really, really hope that one of the longer term impacts from this virus is a return to normalcy when it comes to listening to experts.
     
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    Well he could, but only once. Maybe he's just biding his time for something really important. :cool:
     
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    So Fauci doesnt think the travel ban had impact and that China was forthcoming from the get go?

    That or the Yahoo article is trying to spin their little hearts out.
     
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    Fauci literally responded to the statement of "Trump's statements do not comport with the facts" by saying, "I know."

    How else would you like to view that statement?
     
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    Because he has lived his entire life on the clinical side.. The drug in question is well known and has been used to some level of success to treat the symptoms of this coronavirus... The drug has been used for decades.. Correct dosages and side effects are well established.. So Trump does not see the harm for doctors to prescribe this to help the symptoms..

    On the clinical side this has not been studied and repeated thus to someone on the clinical side any benefit has not been scientifically proven.

    Fauci has never said this could not help.. He has said this has not been studied.

    Simple stuff really.
     
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    So exactly what are you referring to here? The travel ban? I read the article and nowhere did he say that Trump was wrong about the travel ban reducing the number of cases. The person making that claim is the reporter, not Fauci. Hers is what Fauci said about the travel ban on Face the Nation.

    "When asked on CBS’ “Face the Nation” if the situation in the U.S. will eventually decline to the extent it has in Italy, Fauci said “not necessarily at all,” noting that while it is unclear exactly why the situation in Italy has remained so dire, it is possible that by blocking travel from China earlier this year, President Trump may have prevented a larger spread of the virus.
    Early on they did not shut out as well the input of infections that originated in China and came to different parts of the world. One of the things that we did very early and very aggressively, the president put the travel restriction coming from China to the United States and most recently from Europe to the United States because Europe is really the new China. Again I don’t know why this is happening there to such an extent, but it is conceivable that once you get so many of these spreads out they spread exponentially and you can never keep up with the tsunami.”"

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fa...ssible-key-for-u-s-not-becoming-another-italy
     
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    he was refer to trump saying the outbreak start much early like sep/oct, which is untrue, if it really start in sep/oct, we would see outbreak worldwide in nov/dec, not start in late Jan. this is because we know the incubation period of virus and other data now etc etc.
     
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    My only hope is that you choose to listen to Dr. Fauci and actual doctors instead of Trump when it comes to medical decisions and advice.

    A friend, who is an electro-cardiologist, is now getting calls from his patients asking for a prescription for two of the drugs that Trump mentioned. What Trump failed to mention is that the side effects of that drug include heart arrhythmia. So the doctor now has to tell the patients, "I have to recommend against this drug because it will probably kill you."
     
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    Yes Doctors have to prescribe it who suggested otherwise?

    Your "Friend" might want to be careful..Speaking about clients even vaguely is not a good idea....Perhaps give him some legal advice to be HIPAA compliant eh?
     
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    I deal with HIPAA and other PII regulatory issues on a daily basis. That type of conversation does not come remotely close to violating HIPAA.

    And the point about Trump's statements is that he shouldn't be recommending anti-virals at all unless they are backed up by the science because people will objectively take his statement as a reason to try and obtain the medication, with or without the recommendation or even the prescription of a reputable doctor, and thereby place themselves at an even greater risk because of a poor understanding of the potential effects.
     
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    He gave you information on two clients.. You then posted said information on an open forum..
    Hint you do not have to use names partial or otherwise to violate HIPAA...

    Tread carefully.
     
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    Lol
     
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    Warning the following contains traces of Australian humour

     
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    Same thing is happening here

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-03...-coronavirus-covid19-cures-treatment/12081306

    There have even been some recorded deaths from overdose in Africa where chloroquinine is widely available, and people are panicking thinking it will protect them from Covid

    Trump only opens his mouth to change feet
     
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    No he didn’t and you might have realised that IF you had read his post properly
     
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    A virus patient on their deathbed doesn't care. Look at the other thread where a FL man was saved with the drug, his MD warned against it too.
     
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    Sometimes one has to listen to what is not said and there is no way that this statement confirms that the travel ban was either effective or slowed the spread of the virus
     
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    Does that excuse every TWONK panic buying in an unproven effort to stop from getting infected?

    Worse part is that when Trump blurted this out he sent the exact message that the WHO and the CDC did NOT want sent

    “Don’t bother taking precautions because a pill will fix it
     
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    You do not need to use names, but you do need to provide enough information from which it is possible to identify the patient.
     
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    Do you want to hear about the patient that died from an overdose of chloronique?
     
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    I figured it out... It was Tom and Rita, right??

    How in the world this thread went to HIPAA issues, I'll never know..

    Hope things are going well in your neck of the woods, MrT...

    We are voluntarily barricaded in down in VA...
     
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    Yeah I sorta disagree. Practically speaking its vital that he be there to correct the record. And that is what he does. He waits for his chance politely and gets to the mike and publicly corrects as much as he dare. If he does anything else, he is not going be there at all. Where ever else he goes on a network, he is missing a very large audience that is multi-network that includes fox news watchers. They deserve access to good science to save their lives and their families, and we all need them to get that access to help defeat this virus. He really can't get more aggressive with Trump himself, without Trump finding some Trumpist stooge with a medical degree instead.

    I want him to stay right where he is, as long as he is allowed to stay uncensored on the big issues. But he cannot interrupt the President, or be brazen, and stay there. If he directly and publically corrects the President about whether to call this a 'Chinese virus' instead of Covid 19, he is gone. He has to allow Trump his say, in order to get his.

    In short he has to wait his turn.

    He is doing the best he can - for as long as he can.
     
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    Sure where was this what dosage was he given and who prescribed it?
     
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    Egoboy Well-Known Member Donor

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    I 100% agree with you and I find it ****ing pathetic that I do... We are advocating having the experts take a backseat to a lunatic politician...

    He shouldn't need to allow Trump to have his say in order to get his..

    That is pathetic (the concept, not you bringing it up)...
     
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