FBI backs CIA view that Russia intervened to help Trump win election

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  1. guavaball

    guavaball Well-Known Member

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    Lol no bet
     
  2. guavaball

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    You mean like when Obama drew a line then allowed it to be crossed? Bet you forgot about that huh
     
  3. Your Best Friend

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    You mean like Barry Obama, telling Mitt Romney that "the eighties called and they want their foreign policy back" when he was attempting to
    school Romney who said Russia was our biggest foreign policy problem? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QS2a44F5TgM

    Obama's attempt to mock Romney when he rightly identified Russia as a potential adversary doesn't say much for Obama now that he's trying to accuse the Russians of helping to steal the election. Either they are a relic from the eighties or not. Which is it, Obama?

    One false argument at a time, please.
     
  4. Cdnpoli

    Cdnpoli Banned

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    That was before Crimea happened. Had Crimea not happened the RUSSIA /WEST relations would be fine.
     
  5. dairyair

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    Yes. I was agreeing with you.
     
  6. dairyair

    dairyair Well-Known Member

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    True.
    A politician who want big money has to be a globalist. They need that money to fund campaigns.

    But, the world is shrinking with technology. I think the globalist ship has sailed and it won't turn back.
    But hopefully, we can get jobs back here in USA in this globalist world.
     
  7. dairyair

    dairyair Well-Known Member

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    One can not change one's mind if the course of 8 yrs if things change. Doncha know.
    Also, what one says as a political candidate in a debate isn't always the most truthful. Shocking, I know, politicians say things they don't mean.
     
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    Duly noted.:smile:
     
  9. Your Best Friend

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    Your view of Western-Russian relations are "interesting" but don't really take into account all the efforts Vlad Putin put into reconstituting the former Soviet Union glory before Crimea ever happened.
    He didn't just wake up one morning and decide to snatch back the Crimea from the Ukraine. http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-26769481

    Obama has never taken the threat of Putin seriously until now, when he thinks he can get political mileage out of demonizing Putin. And Hillary certainly didn't
    fear him and Russia with her absurd "reset" stunt and when she was cutting deals with Russian oligarchs to get big checks to her Clinton Foundation
    and work with Skolkovo (despite FBI warnings not to).

    Face it, you guys are trying to sell a story that doesn't hold up when examined in any detail.
     
  10. One Mind

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    Are you a liar? Only if you cannot present hard evidence here that assange has been caught lying 6 times. If you cannot present that hard evidence, then yes sir, you are lying just like the DNC did and Hillary.

    If you do present credible evidence, then you are not lying. See how this works? So, you can prove what you are. I will not hold my breath, waiting on the evidence to back up your contention.
     
  11. Cdnpoli

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    I believe Putin felt betrayed when NATO tricked him in Libya and set up a no fly zone. After that the gloves were off.

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    Are you now saying trump lied when he said the CIA was responsible for the Iraq war ? Because anyone who was alive at that time knew CIA told the Bush administration that there was no evidence of WMDs.
     
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    Putin held office in 2006-08 and regained power in 2012. As far as anyone can tell he has always wanted to recoup losses when the Soviet Union crumbled and to claim he hasn't always been an expansionist threat, as Obama tried to do in his Romney debate, is foolish and either ignorant or extremely disingenuous.
    Since 2007 Putin has publicly been vociferously against NATO missiles for Poland and the Czechs so to claim Russia wasn't a serious global threat, as it has almost always been, was supremely misleading and facile.
     
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    I have yet to see a single example of a WikiLeaks lie from any source.
    OTH, the CIA, like all clandestine spy agencies, specialize telling lies, rigging elections, overthrowing governments and assassination.
    Known liars have zero credibility.
     
  14. The Mello Guy

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    I agree she was flawed and I don't think it changed the results. Doesn't mean we should ignore what happened or why.
     
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    I was being kind when I said seriously flawed, she is an unindicted felon. You or I would be in prison for doing what she did. Also I didn't ignore anything I said if there is evidence show it.
     
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    How enraged are you at trump for appointing Michael Flynn as national security


    While Donald Trump’s supporters really wanted Hillary Clinton arrested for her email server, the president-elect’s pick for national security adviser, Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn, “inappropriately shared” classified information with foreign military officials in Afghanistan, military documents show.

    Army records recently obtained by The Washington Post allege that Flynn informed allies about the activities of the CIA in Afghanistan, even though Flynn lacked authorization to do so.

    In August, Flynn told The Post he had permission to share the classified intel, but documents show that an investigation of the incident determined that Flynn did not have approval to share the secrets he exposed. The Defense Department and the Central Command both concluded Flynn mishandled the classified intel.

    During the presidential primaries, Flynn argued Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton should pull out of the race due to the FBI investigation into her private email server. He then gleefully led a “lock her up” chant at the Republican National Convention. In an interview with CNN’s Jake Tapper, Flynn said he would have been jailed if he committed the same offenses as Clinton.
     
  17. The Mello Guy

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    Well I guess that means the trump admin will pursue criminal charges. Who will you blame when they don't?
     
  18. MMC

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    Who will you blame when Congress does, and after Trump steps aside.
     
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    Apparently he didn't do what you said or the Lynch mob would have prosecuted him, they did Patreaus.
     
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    Whoa Nellie, you're putting the horse before the cart. There is no Trump admin until after Jan 20th. Check back with me then.
     
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    So there is no evidence for your claim about assange. I knew this already. Find yourself a pail of water and douse your pants...which are on fire.

    This seems to be a problem with Hillary voters. And no, I did not vote for trump. Nor Hillary. So this isn't partisanship here, on my part. But this behavior from Hillary, the DNC, the Party, is really hurting the democrats. They have lost their moral centers, which they once had, back when I was a member of that party. What the Clintons have done to this party is unforgivable. What this party has done to the very people they once looked out for, stood up for, and represented is also unforgivable. The only honest person I know of that at least associates with the dems is Bernie sanders, who I supported, because of his honesty and integrity. And the liars in the DNC and the party took him down, in order to crown the most disliked dem to ever run for president. And you got beat by trump. LOL. But after what was done to sanders, it is poetic justice. They deserved it. As they deserve the current status of that party. I see them as nothing more than lying antidemocratic vipers.
     
  22. The Mello Guy

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    They haven't until now, what do you expect to change?

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    He's already running around saying he doesn't care, but I'll be sure to get back to you.
     
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    Did you miss where Chaffetz stated Congress has a job to do? That's Oversight. Then there are a couple of other Committees that aren't done yet.
     
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    This effort to nullify the election will probably lead to a special prosecutor and eventual indictments.
     
  25. Professor Peabody

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    So the Russians voted in our election? Did they hack the voting booths? Or did the truth just come out about Hillary and the Democrats were caught with their pants around their collective ankles?

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    Will Hillary need a public defender?
     

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