FBI backs CIA view that Russia intervened to help Trump win election

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  1. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Only, and this is the NATO Charter, words in the Charter, only if a NATO member is attacked.

    Thus far, I can't recall a NATO nation getting attacked.

    Remind me.
     
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    Canada has millions of French and British. US has a lot of Mexican. Are you saying if Mexico wanted your state of California that they would be acceptable to take it because of all the Mexicans that live there? That's what you're saying.

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    Um 9/11.
     
  3. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Many Americans see your efforts as wrong to aid us attacking Iraq and even Afghanistan.
     
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    I do not recall Bush seeking assistance from NATO over 911.

    He did have a coalition but not because of NATO.

    Good question on CA.

    We are being flooded by various groups.

    The south by Mexicans.

    We in the North by Chinese and Indians of India.

    When those two groups (Asians and Mexicans) square off, there will be heck to pay.

    But a lot of Mexicans in fact do want California back.
     
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    Critical thinking skills?

    How about being unable to recognize that WaPo keeps referring to this magical mythical fairy tale of a report but never actually shows it to you?

    How about being unable to understand the difference between the basis of "suspecting the actors of DNC email hack to be Russian in origin" and the media's self-written narrative of "Russia won the election for Trump"?

    How about being unable to detect such a classically obvious conspiracy theory even as it plays out right before your eyes?

    The Lefts response to Trump's victory has been as pathetic as it has been disgusting.

    Leftists started with rioting, then they moved on to result denying and demanding recounts, then when their recounts were either squashed by law or halted when they discovered Hillary's cheating they move onto this fake news conspiracy theory that Russia changed the results, and in a few days when the EC votes Trump President we'll be back to riots again, then a brief pause to bash Christians and Christmas before its right back to rioting on Jan 20.

    I hope you Leftists realize that you've handed us 2020.

    Trump has his 2nd term in the bag before his 1st has ever started.
     
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    Til the Last Drop Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Thank you, that makes sense. There had to be a monetary reason. You have to understand there was a dire need to get globalists out of power, and Trump was our 1st chance at a vote for true change in 40 years.

    With that said, I don't know anyone who doesn't consider Canada as anything but a sibling, and I think your concerns should be heard to the highest power. Get your concerns heard by the Trump half. Liberals are going to be neutered for quite some time. They have burnt us all.

    But I think Trump as a business man is smart enough to see the benefit of not pissing off Canadian oil.
     
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    Exxon has a hard on just thinking about drilling in the Arctic. Putin too. That's why this prospect of Tillerson as sec of state is disturbing. trump even asked why aren't we drilling in the Arctic. Of course Canada is against is. I am sure the Nordic countries will be against it too and NATO allies. It's a very bad idea to do his and Russia and USA getting together to do this would be a huge stab in our backs. If there was an oil spill in the Arctic Ocean due to this that would be unforgivable. It would wipe out marine life.
     
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    The great majority of our oil comes from Canada, right? I think that in its own right is enough of a bargaining chip. Where you need to be concerned is making sure those arguing on behalf of Canada are more interested in the Arctic environment than profits.

    That is where your resources are best spent.
     
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    Too bad the truth came out, but it was the truth.
     
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    Justin Trudeau is definitely against drillin for oil in the Arctic. No worries there.
     
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    This is what I'm telling you. The signs I see suggest that Putin will be offered a path to friendlier relations with America but that path will involve him stopping his hostile actions against the west. If he refuses he still not find that he can push the Trump administration around.
     
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    If You can show me a quote from trump that tells Putin to get out of Ukraine and to give Crimea back I'll believe you.
     
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    The problem with sanctions on any country is the people are hurt but the those in power often are not. Often sanctions only make the targeted country more hostile to America. I don't have all the answers as to what to do in place of sanctions though.
     
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    My experience with Trump is what he says carries far less meaning than what he does.
     
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    Will you state what your experience with Trump is?
     
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    Mainly the dismissiveness, and contempt both DSW, and HRC espoused in regards to Bernie Sanders. Considering HRC would then "adopt" many of Sanders positions, to mock, and ridicule the gentleman behind his back ...?
     
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    Trump is not president. Let's see what he does when he gets info office.

    Perhaps Obama will have already removed Russia from the Crimean Peninsula and Ukraine and so Trump will not worry about it.
     
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    So you couldn't find one quote about trump getting tough with Russia but you want me to believe he will be tough with Russia because you "feel" he will?

    :)
     
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    Obama blames "domestic propagandists".

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    Same as yours. From what I read and see of him. You can't really judge what he's going to do by what he says, only by what he eventually does. It's one of the reasons I considered not voting for him. If the democrats had a better (and moderate) candidate I might have voted for them.
    However in the end I'm am happy that I voted for Trump. So far his actions are pleasing me. Well except for his tweets about people and media. Those are beneath the office of the president and I wish he'd stop.
     
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    I keep thinking that I might know why the CIA didn't want to present evidence to Congress. This would probably make the information available to Trump.

    Could it be that the CIA doesn't trust Trump with classified information in regards to Russia?
     
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    Good god. Do you not understand how dangerous it is for a USA president to not mean what he says?

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    That's 100% the reason. Trump is compromised. You cannot give him any highly classified information regarding Russia.
     
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    No, I do not want you to believe anything. I do not post here to change others minds. I read and post to learn of others views and to put my views to the test of rebuttal.

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    And you have proof of him leaking highly classified information? If he does will this then not make him an American hero like Snowden?
     
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    Since when do I need proof before I make accusations? Trump had no proof that Obama was a Kenyan. Didn't stop him from repeating that for years. We are in the post truth era. I can say whatever I want and if anyone tries to tell me otherwise I get to call them out as a crooked liar.

    And no I don't believe people see Snowden as a hero.
     
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    https://www.google.com/amp/townhall...-the-election-n2259827?amp=true?client=safari

     

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