Fear and loathing bloom as American tempers fray in coronavirus crisis

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  1. Rugglestx

    Rugglestx Well-Known Member

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    The media is feasting on this right now, causing more panic than in warranted. They are not doing so as a civic service, they are doing it to gather clicks and views. They are in effect being the "greedy" capitalist they so often rail against. As always the hypocrisy of the left on full display, al you have to do is look to see it.
     
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    Don't stumble, that herd of ignorant beasts is right behind you.
     
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    Thats what American media is: an advertisement delivery system. It's been that way as long as I've been alive. Doesn't diminish the fact that covid-19 is a national emergency. If we don't take drastic steps now, Italy and Iran will be bastions of good health by comparison to the USA.
     
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    Yep, nothing to see here.

     
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    RELAX ! - :)
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    ~ People here where I live seem to be calming down. Still things have changed as many stores close early and items are hard to find. City build are also closed. Airports are affected.
    Folks on local neighborhood websites are offering help to the elderly, share supplies and rides to market. Very nice to see ... :aww:
    ( still no toilet paper :tp: )
     
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    Freedom (making one's own choices) on one hand, safety (the government telling you what they want you to hear) on the other. Freedom...safety. Freedom, safety.

    "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
     
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    I don't believe that quote was in the context of a global pandemic.
     
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    Give it to me in a nutshell, I don't have 12 minutes to burn.
     
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    The theory still applies. You give up your ability to reason, to turn over your bodily safety to the government, who in truth, doesn't care about you as an individual.
     
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    maybe they need to make legal to order alcohol and cigarettes on-line... should these people be going out to get these items
     
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    I am unsure what some people think the president should be doing? I heard that he took the whole thing lightly at first, but this wasn't what I experienced, so maybe it's a matter of opinion. After the Russian hoax, the Ukraine hoax, and the impeachment failed, the left is hoping to blame corona on Trump to save doomed November election. Worst fear is that this will be the end of the open borders dream.
     
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    basically the currently reported case has lag time of 15-20days, fatality is 1 per 100, and it take 20days for avg person to die, that mean the person die got it 20 days ago. meaning there were around 100ppl infected 20 days ago, since its 1 out 100 death. use this analysis we can estimate current infection rate using math models. when you have large amount of death 8000 so far, you can get an good estimate since the database is large. the larger the database the more accuracy.
     
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    he had health expert telling him and updating him, he ignore their advice until later. until he saw what happen in italy.
     
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    I am very concerned of my others, as a business owner with a very high public frequency I have to take care of my employees, they are my responsibility. I get up at 5 and drive in town, because I am a senior and senior can shop from 7 to 8, I shop for my employees, before the insane storm the stores and plunder them.
    A young Lady at the hardware store, cashier, told me she can not get milk for her child, because when she gets of work its sold out. I did my senior shopping and brought her the milk she needs. I do senior shoping form my senior customers and deliver free of charge.
    We have to stay separated, but we still can pull together and than we get it done.
     
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    Anyone who thinks that this is just the left wing media in the US stoking panic in order to raise clicks is not paying attention.
    This is worldwide and those still not taking it seriously are a danger to society.
    Same with those hoarding far more than they need and depriving others of essential goods.
    As usual, the truth lies somewhere in the middle and not on the extremes.
     
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    It will not be proportionally as bad her as either of those countries. Not even close.
     
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    The truth is in the middle, no disagreement there.

    But the media is selling what they sell, news.....and negative news always outsells positive news. They are indeed hyping this to sell it.

    Hoarding suck.
     
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    and you are certain of this because?
     
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    Maybe ittle pansy asses who throw tantrums every time they feel offended
     
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    You realize just saying stuff like the red text, does not cause it to magically become true? Now you not only speak for everyone but the entire universe? LOL, I can only, LOL
     
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    You like to engage in propaganda about Iran, and just the term "licking" shrines, used in the propaganda against Iran, says it all. While it is true that some of those visiting some of these shrines, as in many other places and other religions, kiss the shrines (like kissing the 'wailing wall'), no one "licks" these shrines. Not to mention that, to contain the spread of the virus, these shrines have been closed (even as some idiots have been protesting the closures). In the meantime, whatever you might imagine, the actual ratio of recovered to deaths in concluded cases in Iran is much better than either Italy or the US (56%), even if significantly behind China or South Korea. Outside of East Asia, Iran has the largest number of people have been treated and recovered from the virus and the mortality rate from the virus in Iran from the only sample that really is telling ('closed cases') is much better than either the US or Italy. In Iran, 15% of closed cases have ended in death, whereas 85% have recovered following treatment. In Italy, among closed cases, 46% have died while only 54% have recovered. In the US, the numbers are even worse than Italy (56% mortality in closed cases), although the sample size is still small as the overwhelming number of reported cases in the US are still in the 'active' category.
    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

    Anyway, amidst what is the usual propaganda, this report is actually referring to something that is true. While initially the top leadership in Iran, including the revolutionary guards, were at least equally responsible for preaching a message of "all is fine, this is just like the flu" (mainly to encourage voter turnout in parliamentary elections), today it is the administration of president Rouhani which is standing against the kind of measures that need to be taken to better bring the virus under control. Worried of losing their authority and power to the military, they are putting the health and well being of the country at huge risk, even refusing to take measures like the ones already taken practically everywhere else and relying instead mainly (besides closing schools, shrines and public events) on 'self-policing' and around the clock information about the virus.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/17/world/middleeast/coronavirus-iran-rouhani.html
    Power Struggle Hampers Iran’s Coronavirus Response
    President Hassan Rouhani has been severely criticized for not acting forcefully against the epidemic. Now he and the military, newly empowered to intervene, are fighting over control.
     
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    ~ Our culture became uncivil with the introduction of "gangsta rap" and glorification of victimhood in the late 1980's.
    Up until he became president Donald Trump was widely looked upon as being some sort of Mr. America. Now some disgruntled folks blame him for everything they dislike. Go figure ...:blahblah: `:bleh:
     
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    STOP WATCHING THE 24/7 NEWS COVERAGE, IT'S MAKING PEOPLE PANIC!!!!!
     
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