fellow americans, i need help defending our prison system...

my fiance and i were discussing our prison system and she hit me with some information that i simply couldn't believe. she told me that our prisons are forcing prisoners to perform labor for large corporations without compensation and if they refused they were being put in solitary confinement. i didn't believe her but the terror of it kept me pondering it. this creates incredible incentive to find reasons not to release prisoners after they have completed their time, or even incarcerate people for profit. ive googled it and found an incredible amount of information on it and im in awe that this is going on. however, im not familiar with any of the sources that are coming up. i would love to see a debate on this and see it be grasped by those of you that are gifted with the ability for effective research and unbiased results.

am i the only one that was unaware of this? isnt this just a new way to get slave labor from minorities under the guise of reforming criminals? im really hoping you guys can debunk this for me because if this is really happening the way it is being presented, my whole world just changed.

this is an example of one of the search results.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=8289

this is a youtube video that discusses it. [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=un-4_J5oWMY"]U.S. Prison/Industrial Complex - The New Slavery & The Sickness In The American System - YouTube[/ame]

 

You need to tell her to stop beating you. I keed! I keed! I just had to say it, dude!


But seriously, I'm taking your side on this one. These prisoners should not have any rights at all save for their human rights. They are felons, killers, rapists, and drug dealers. They are subhuman, second-class citizens, and they should be exploited as much as possible for their crimes.

 

This could act as a powerful deterrent to crime. Get a real job on the outside and allow your labors to pay you a fair wage, or go commit crime and be exploited and get nothing for your labor. I kind of like it.

 

doh you misunderstood me. im not for this at all. im ok with labor for benefit of the general population. but for corporate profits? allowing companies to get slave labor in order to compete against china? this means there is no incentive at all to be lenient with a criminal. any crime that can possibly have jail time associated with it will eventually assuredly come with jail time because lobbyists will get involved if they arent already. this should scare the crap out of all of us if this is really happening.

 

The United States has about 1 person in 50 in prison. This is an awfully high ratio for any nation and the possibility that there is an alterior motive or two should be raised. A more typical ratio would be 1 person in 100, so a full 1% of the adult population may be getting imprisoned unnecessarily. I guess that's one way to drop the unemployment rate a percentage point!

 

Some judges get kickbacks for filling prisons up. So don't break any laws at all, or you might end up in corporate concentration camp.

 

this is the part that scares me. not only do i think it is unethical, but the possibility for corruption is insane.

 

The solution to your fear is simple, dude. Don't break the law, and you won't be exploited.

 

These people are all in prisons because they lied, cheated, stole, raped, murdered, or whatnot of their own volition. They were put there by juries or deals they themselves agreed to. Why would they deserve leniency?

I didn't misunderstand you at all. I simply think you are wrong and was showing the beneficial angles of these sorts of programs. It would seem that being a productive member of society on the outside would be vastly better than be a productive member of society in a cage. Perhaps one day criminals will connect those dots and opt out of crime.

 

the rest of us, not on food stamps or section 8 housing, have to pay for our own room, board, utilities etc.

Perhaps the prisoners should work for their keep too. As long as some or all of the profit comes back to repay the taxpayers I'm fine with it.

I'm not certain I believe all of what was stated in the vid. It seems like a US bashing show.

 

Really? Could you name a few? Or is that just some empty claim?

 

juries dont give sentence's, judges do. and do we really want private companies profiting off of something like this? do you not see the potential for an extremely corrupted system here? if you serve 10 years for a non violent crime, and at the end of your 10 years you are given an additional 6 months because you failed to flush the toilet or something petty, and it just turns out that every time your sentence is up you keep getting it extended because that free labor is hard to replace... do you not see the potential abuses of this system?

 

no one wants that to happen.

It's dangerous and corrupt.

Quite simply just b/c someone says it doesn't make it true.

Have you ever been abducted by aliens?

wanna buy a bridge?

Seen bigfoot?

Taken a ride on the loch Ness monsters back?

Played with a chupacabra?

 

Just wait and you'll see how low US will fall. It seems that every rupublican governor is privatizing prisons in their state.

 

this should be moved to the tin foil hat forum

 

Took me .5 seconds , would find more if I'd have more time

http://www.cnn.com/2011/CRIME/08/14/pennsylvania.judge/

 

This coming from a Ukrainian. Ha ha! Why did you run away from your home country, buddy? Did the Russian Mafia chase you out of there?

 

of course not, but thats something i have never seen before. we have all seen corporate greed bleed into some very unethical practices before. is it really hard to imagine this being exploited by corporations that are chasing the profit and forget that human beings are being crushed under their new government sanctioned slave labor camps? im ok with prison labor when its the community that benefits. make license plates, repair roads, cleanup trash, rebuild parks and such. but do we really want them making motherboards for dell for dell to sell to us at regular price and dell just starts making huge profits from the missing labor costs?

 

i posted it here because im familiar with the posters in this section and am really hoping that someone can debunk it for me and show me that it simply isnt true. this isnt a tin foil topic, im not a conspiracy theorist. i was simply hoping people that were better than me at debunking information could take a look at it and discuss it. if you would rather move it some place that you dont have to be bothered with it then simply dont read it. im not the type that likes to pretend that if i dont see something then it isnt happening. i know i know im weird for a right winger

 

this isnt a political issue, this is a social issue. please dont bring polarizing political rhetoric into this thread, there are 100 others on here you can go do that with.

 

how can you prove that unicorns don't exist?

 

I really wouldn't worry about it if I were you, buddy. They've had license plate factories and rock crushing outfits in prisons for years. What about chain gangs working on the sides of highways picking up garbage or tarring potholes? Ever see those? This is really nothing new and definitely nothing that should concern you. Just don't break the law, that's all.

 

That just scratches the surface. They're also harvesting body parts from the prisoners and if they complain they kill them. And, the public schools are "grooming" small children for groups of wealthy Democrat pedophiles. Oh, oh, and the military will only accept psychopaths certified by psychiatrist in the all-volunteer military.

I hope the OP gets married. He was made to be a compliant husband. Next he'll be gnashing his teeth and crying that all men are sexual predators.

 

no no i understand that and im ok with that lol. what im not ok with is ibm using the private prisons for labor and making higher profits off of it. that criminal owes us his debt, not a company that is going to sell us products and not pass any savings on to us. home electronics? furniture? computers? why does a corporation like ibm or dell get to profit off of the prisoners instead of the victims of the crimes? thats my only beef with it.

 

i want to see some credible source come out with this and a congressional investigation.

BTW, you should tell your GF that the burden of proof is on her.