Florida Republicans Admit Voter Suppression Was The Goal Of New Election Laws

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  1. Captain America

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    Scott’s administration claimed the new laws were meant to curb in-person voter fraud, despite the fact that an individual in Florida is more likely to be struck by lightning than commit voter fraud.

    Current party members and consultants confirmed the motive was not to stop voter fraud but to make it harder for Democrats and minorities to vote: <snip>

    http://thinkprogress.org/justice/20...uppression-was-the-goal-of-new-election-laws/



    Duh... Most folks already figured this out a long time ago.
     
  2. Lil Mike

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    I can't think of a more credible source than Charlie Crist! He lost the Senate primary and left the Republican party in a huff and endorsed Obama this year. And as for Greer; he's a Crist lackie who turned on the party after he was indicted. Both credible sources!
     
  3. CallSignShoobeeFMFPac

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    Before any vote count is final in Florida, they need to fish many of the ballot boxes out of the ocean first.
     
  4. Shiva_TD

    Shiva_TD Progressive Libertarian Past Donor

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    The number of voter fraud cases is so small as to be completely insignificant and there was never a rational reason for these laws. Virtually everyone with half-a-brain knew that these laws were predominately to disenfranchise minority voters that typically vote for Democrats. It's not like this is a surprise from the insiders of the Republican Party.

    Yes, Republicans now are trying to "shoot the messeger" but they can't logically argue that voter fraud has ever been a real issue warranting disenfranchisement of millions of voters. I don't remember which presidential election it was but believe it was 2008 when nationally only 18 cases of voter fraud were prosecuted. When we're talking about tens of millions of votes and only 18 cases of voter fraud this really is a non-issue for our electorial process.

    What many have suggested, and I agree with, is get the politicans out of the election process completely.
     
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    The number of voter fraud cases is so small as to be completely insignificant and there was never a rational reason for these laws. Virtually everyone with half-a-brain knew that these laws were predominately to disenfranchise minority voters that typically vote for Democrats. It's not like this is a surprise from the insiders of the Republican Party.

    Yes, Republicans now are trying to "shoot the messeger" but they can't logically argue that voter fraud has ever been a real issue warranting disenfranchisement of millions of voters. I don't remember which presidential election it was but believe it was 2008 when nationally only 18 cases of voter fraud were prosecuted. When we're talking about tens of millions of votes and only 18 cases of voter fraud this really is a non-issue for our electorial process.

    What many have suggested, and I agree with, is get the politicans out of the election process completely.
     
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    hmmmmm--a bunch of republicans advocating laws that make it harder for key Obama demographics to vote--was there ever a question of what was really going on here?
     
  7. kenrichaed

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    And, if your not checking ID's than please tell me how your going to catch the cases of voter fraud?

    Here's a link to the number of dead people still on voter rolls which either you or I could find out, use their name, and go vote under their alias. Not a hard thing to figure out.

    http://ballotpedia.org/wiki/index.php/Dead_people_voting
     
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    Voter ID requirement referendum was voted down in Minnesota because it is totally unnecessary. In fact, the chief opponent of this issue was now retired governor Carlson who is Republican.
     
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    Why is it unecessary?
     
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    [video=youtube;9BovRXWemws]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BovRXWemws[/video]
     
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    I don't watch videos that have no explanation of what is contained.

    Are you that lazy you can't write one sentence about what it is we are going to be watching?
     
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    These days, it seems to me that the only voter fraud, or questionable voter fraud, that is deemed worthy of mention has the GOP fingerprints all over it. I mean, you can't open the newspaper or click on a website without reading about some kind of suppression or gerrymandering or some other shenanigans they are trying, (sometimes sucessfully,) to pull off. I find it to be ironic that they are the ones claiming to be battling the almost non-existant voter fraud and it turns out it is them who are the major culprits. Politics aside, don't these republicans believe in honor and doing what's right anymore? Where is their patriotism and conviction for the almost worshipped American right to vote? What about those who wrap themselves in the flag and preach patriotism yet still support the GOP regardless? Have they no honor either?

    Speaking of the devil. Here's some more GOP shenanigans that just came out today.

    Ohio Secretary of State Jon Husted (R) became the public face of vote suppression this year for his overreaching election directives, which restricted early voting hours and forbid election officials from counting legitimate votes. Though President Obama won the state, Husted has not halted his efforts. With two House races heading to a recount, Husted is now facing accusations that he is illegally tossing provisional ballots. These House races will determine whether state Republicans get a super-majority to put constitutional amendments on the ballot without a single Democratic vote. <snip>

    http://thinkprogress.org/justice/20...ry-of-state-may-be-illegally-tossing-ballots/
     
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    I'm as liberal as the next guy, and suppression stinks out loud, but I have no idea if my ballot was counted or tossed in a dumpster. I put it into a locked box when I was done with it and then, poof, it was gone. I guess I just have to accept on faith that it was counted, huh?
     
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    Poor Mikie...I remember the days when Charlie could do no wrong in your eyes! Just like Chris Christie, once he shows signs of bipartisanship or not following the extremist ********* party line, he's persona non grata!

    Same thing with Greer. Weren't you front and center way back when saying he was framed?

    Dead people showing up on voter rolls isn't the fault of the dead people. It's the fault of the states for not keeping the rolls up to date.
     
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    I'm not too worried about dead people voting myself.
     
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    How would you do this without their voter registration card/number?
     
  17. The Real American Thinker

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    Leader of the Pennsylvania state legislature, a Republican, saying PA voter ID law would help Romney win PA.
     
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    Keep grasping at straws. No one's buying the BS. Everyone on both sides know what their motives are.
     
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    By preventing voter fraud. why don't you tell the whole story?
     
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    Right, one vote per registered voter--------------what an evil motive!
     
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    I'm saying what he said. Simple as that.

    And save me the self-righteousness. You guys love to take everything a Democrat says out of context and outright make things up. So don't even go there.
     
  22. Lil Mike

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    By grasping at straws, you mean I'm informed about a subject that you are not. I live in Florida and have been familiar with Charlie Crist since his first attempt at State wide office. I know exactly what type of person he is, and given his current employer, his statements are perfectly are simply to get revenge at a party that didn't want to nominate him for the senate and to please his current Democratic fundraiser employer. Greer is Crist's manservant who while running the Florida Republican Party began looting it's treasury for the benefit of himself and his crony's.
     
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    Let's remember what Charlie Crist's original sin was: In 2008, he extended early voting, and Obama won the state. He committed the unpardonable sin of trying to make sure ALL of the voters in his state could vote, not just the Republicans.

    BTW, that's two elections in a row for the Democrat, despite massive attempts at voter suppression. Imagine if every eligible voter had been able to vote in 10 minutes, instead of 10 hours. Methinks Florida is a blue state now. :)
     
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    not true, he wanted all of the votes counted except the absentee military votes. Those were not counted. corruption is the by word of democrats.
     
  25. .daniel

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    Florida is definitely a blue state. Voter suppression went a long ways; without that, you see a significant advantage for Democrats in the state. I'd say it only leans blue, however.
     

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