Florida Teenager Is Charged as ‘Mastermind’ of Twitter Hack

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    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/31/technology/twitter-hack-arrest.html


    Get the kid into our cyber security forces.. Amazing!!! Crooks make good cops if you can convert them.


    The authorities arrested a 17-year-old who they said ran a scheme that targeted the accounts of celebrities, including former President Barack Obama and Elon Musk. Two others were also charged.
     
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    Hard to do with some of them. They make more $ being criminals. Whoever said "Crime doesn't pay." lied.
     
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    I see your point.. It sure doesn't pay police very much.. No wonder they can become corrupt.

    it works both ways unfortunately.. how do we stop crime?? Newark NJ is a good example.
     
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    It may not be a popular view, but I don't get the impression that anyone wants to STOP crime. Most people don't realize that the prison system is a FOR-PROFIT business so funneling the poor and unrepresented into jails/prisons brings a ton of revenue. Nobody wants to stop that gravy train which is why there is very little done to prevent younger people from starting to get in trouble or to help prisoners when they are released. That's why the recidivism rate is so high. And, most people don't care because they think it's "working". It's clearly not.
     
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    Yes, our appetite for incarcercation is one of the worst, if not the worst, on the planet.

    I agree we don't want to stop crime because the prisons are luicrative
     
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    WHAT!!!! But I thought it was the Russians!!!!

    Or so went the narrative went...
     
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    My appetite for incarceration has never been lower, and it was always extremely low. This and a moral code is why I dont commit crime.
     
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    Appetite TO incarcerate others, not BE incarcerated LOL. And yes, placing a financial motivation to put people in prison will guess what..get people in prison. Innocence or guilt TBD. Especially if you are ignorant, and poor. War on drugs an all..unless you have a pharmaceutic license to deal things much worse then anything you can find on the street.
     
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    We have more incarcerated per capita than any other country on the planet.. by far.

    I guess Xi Jinping just kills them and erases their existence. That would keep the population increase down..

    My daughter is currently in with a blood disorder and weakened immune system. And Roger Stone walks away..

    She got hooked on IV drugs and made a very grave mistake.. nobody died
     
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    The comment refers to society wanting people locked up. Somebody has to "pay" for their crime and nobody bats an eye and those prisoners become ostracized in society.

    I was recently watching a program about prisons around the world. I saw one that looked more like a dorm. The prisoners all had their own cells. They were free to move about during the day. They had to cook their own meals and even had a commissary on site. I was telling someone about it and she became very angry saying they "don't deserve to live like that. They need to be punished harshly and often no matter what." and that is the kind of attitude most people have about what to do about people that have been convicted of crimes.
     
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    So if there is an appetite to incarcerate others then why haven't I ever been incarcerated?

    Sorry but I seem to be missing something obvious.

    Is it the fact that I'm not a drug dealer?
     
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    You have never been targeted then. Thats not a bad thing. Get on some cops wrong side, and be his "wrong person" with his 20 year old daughter, then that's a different story.

    Im sure you have lived a pretty conservative lifestyle, and that worked for you.
     
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    The "appetite to incarcerate" refers to how society, as a WHOLE, thinks the justice system works and anyone arrested and charged deserves to be in prison. We don't say anything about it and just "write off" *those people* as bad and don't care what happens to them within the system or when they are released.
     
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    It is the worst.
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    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/spl/hi/uk/06/prisons/html/nn2page1.stm
     
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    Well.............................IF, she is in there for drug addiction issues, then perhaps its not a good idea to tell her what the goodies prescribed are. Especially if its supposed to have a placebo effect. Which most likely it is, in which case you may be able to sue if she ends up sick, or dead not getting what she needs.

    So I guess you can use your lawyer as leverage to get that info, and tell her to act sick getting anything she doesent know what it is.
     
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    The liberal prison systems have better outcomes

    A private prison system has every incentive to get a large an inmate population as possible
     
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    I think using this phrase is making a pretty bold statement.

    Without serious context, is that what society as a whole really thinks?

    Here's one example that I think society as a whole would agree on. Thisnhapoened about a month ago near me.

    Yet... he was walking free, and killed 3 people.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cn...lorida-lake-triple-killing-arrests/index.html

    Should our system have a stronger appetite for incarceration perhaps?
     
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    And, that is often on the backs of young minorities that cannot afford high priced lawyers to defend them.
     
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    The reason he was on the street again was BECAUSE its more profitable to keep rearresting him. So no. Anywhere else, he would have been done the first time.

    WTF were the felonies that he got out after 8? Iv never seen anyone else but a white guy get out after more then 100 felonies.
     
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    My daughter became addicted to IV drugs and got into a terrible situation in a hell hole of a neighborhood. She went on March 1. MD shut down shortly after that

    Her white blood cell count is 50 . She got to her treatment 2 weeks late. Roger Stone walks. I am pissed to say the least.

    We spent 3500 on a lawyer for nothing

    The public defender is better.
     
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    Why is that?

    In my experience, as an LEO and as a civilian who volunteered with a prison ministry program, people are NOT interested in helping prisoners or ex-prisoners. Many in society simply assume that someone is in jail for a valid reason and doesn't deserve any help. Others feel that ex-cons dont' deserve a second chance even after they have served their time and paid their dues. It's almost impossible for an ex-con to find a job and/or housing after incarceration.

    I also volunteered to help a woman's prison literacy program. We simply had to ask people for donations of books they were no longer using. Some gave, but others said they would rather throw the books away than to have them go to prisoners. What is a person to do if their own society writes them off as "unworthy"? One reason the recividism rate is so high is that these people simply cannot get a second chance to turn their lives around once they been in prison. How does that serve the greater good?

    This situation is recent and ongoing so there is no telling if he will be charged and imprisoned for this crime. It's unfortunate that his crimes escalated to the point of murder but one case is not representative of the problem. Yes, some people get leniency, but many don't and they are locked away with hardened career criminals where they often learn to commit crimes better versus learning to turn their lives around. It's impossible to thrive in that environment when all one is doing is trying to survive.

    So, NO, our "appetite" for incarceration should not be stronger. The whole system needs to be fixed so it works better for prisoners to serve their time in a productive environment that keeps them on the straight and narrow after release and for society to feel that justice has been served and ex-cons deserve a second chance once they've paid their dues.
     
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    Not sure how that can even be legal.
    The opportunities for abuse are staggering.
     
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    I am sorry you all are going through that. There are good lawyers and bad lawyers. Some are in private practice and some are in the Public Defender's office. It's a gamble in either direction.

    I hope things work out, she gets better soon and your family can heal.
     
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    I would recommend that you contact the lawyer you hired to ask about this. Something doesn't sound right.

    Also, I did a quick search and found this. Maybe you can find the statutes that are applicable to where you are located.
    https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/28/513.42
     

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