Following The Science?

Discussion in 'Science' started by RoanokeIllinois, Aug 8, 2022.

  1. RoanokeIllinois

    RoanokeIllinois Banned Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 24, 2022
    Messages:
    1,952
    Likes Received:
    950
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Following The Science?

    Democrat Politicians, constantly talk about it, but do they actually practice what they preach?

    Science is that only a biological female can have a baby.

    Science is that only a Biological male, can get a biological female pregnant.

    Science can be Anti-God. Science, can be global warming. Science can be abortions. Science can be the green new deal. Of course these are things that Democrat Politicians enjoy for their science.

    Things that they do not like for their Science:

    Science is a biological male, and a biological female, without trans.

    Science is where being gay, means having a chemical imbalance in the body, just like mental health issues.

    Science would say that cutting down forrests like Democrat Politicians have done, would make global warming worse. One of the US' largest forests is in danger: 'Tucker Carlson Originals' exposes green energy scam in Maine | Fox News

    Science can be used with logic, but only if used right. Like not doing what Dr. Faucci and the Democrat Politicians recommended for Covid, but the opposite.
    Sorta like Florida did in the pandemic. Science helps prove side effect of the wuhan chinese covid vaccine.

    Science can be very useful in life, but only if it is used for good, and not only as a political weapon, and only when the American Democrat Politicians want to use it. They push their Science ways, but when it doesn't look good on them, or their party, then they deny it.
     
    ToddWB and expatpanama like this.
  2. expatpanama

    expatpanama Active Member

    Joined:
    Feb 21, 2017
    Messages:
    710
    Likes Received:
    229
    Trophy Points:
    43
    The process I see is that the left says to go w/ science, and then they replace the scientific method with faction spokespeople in lab-coats spouting propaganda. fwiw, this has also been the MO for global warming for decades.
     
  3. RoanokeIllinois

    RoanokeIllinois Banned Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 24, 2022
    Messages:
    1,952
    Likes Received:
    950
    Trophy Points:
    113
    If I had more money, I'd buy up older cars, and buy a plot of land to keep them on. so I could drive another one each day, and be politically incorrect.

    so I don't buy a newer car, to help with the democrat politicians hoax of global warming. besides, the status cymbol I could care less about. It's too materialistic for me anyways.

    Democrat Politicians and their media, and a lot of their voters, do things like preach about how illegal immigration is fine, and yet would never live near a bunch of illegals. They instead live in rural areas, or gated communities with private security guards that have guns.

    China is the biggest producer of emmisions in the World. If the Democrat Politicians honestly cared about the Environment, and global warming, they would make a deal with China to make their emmissions less, and to do things like cutting back in several ways, to get cleaner emmissions, but Democrat Politicians don't care, china doesn't care, and democrat voters, don't care about holding their politicians accountable.

    That is why the democrat American party, stands for nothing.
     
  4. WillReadmore

    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 21, 2013
    Messages:
    60,043
    Likes Received:
    16,497
    Trophy Points:
    113
    China is the biggest producer of greenhouse gasses ONLY because they have far more people.

    The USA is worse on a per capita basis.

    Blaming China for having more people is obviously ridiculous.

    As far as their concern about emissions, THEY are the world leader in clean energy technology. They develop more patents (showing their lead in that science/technology), they manufacture more green energy products (such as wind and solar), they export more of those products, they install more green energy in their own country. In every facet, they lead the world in green energy. The USA comes in third.

    We don't have a world government, so the only way to get cooperation is through that kind of negotiation. The world approach toward getting countries to work on this problem has been the IPCC, and you can read their reports.

    The Republican party has opposed the IPCC process from its very start, blocking or slowing US participation. Republicans have consistently erected roadblocks against the methods available for pushing the needed global cooperation, as well as worked to block domestic improvements - even when the improvements are needed for reasons other than climate.

    I agree that Dems haven't been strong enough on this issue. But, the FACT is that Republicans have consistently and strongly opposed moves on this issue.
     
    RoanokeIllinois likes this.
  5. WillReadmore

    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 21, 2013
    Messages:
    60,043
    Likes Received:
    16,497
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Nonsense. There is NO opposition to people forming unions and having children.
    No, it is NOTHING like "mental health". Sexual orientation is more fundamental than that.
    We have electric transmission lines throughout America. This article is just plain BS.
    Now, you are just proposing that America should ignore medical science. And, you pose NO examples of what it is that you don't like about medical science.
     
  6. expatpanama

    expatpanama Active Member

    Joined:
    Feb 21, 2017
    Messages:
    710
    Likes Received:
    229
    Trophy Points:
    43
    They're politically shattered into a million splinter groups often at odds w/ each other. Just like the Republicans.

    My take is that there's a very good theme that underlies Democrat programs, the idea of "fairness". Republicans like fairness too but where the difference comes in is the fact that the right is also concerned w/ many other values: sacred/obscene, loyalty/betrayal, order/chaos --Republicans (as I can see) are a bit more complex.
     
  7. WillReadmore

    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 21, 2013
    Messages:
    60,043
    Likes Received:
    16,497
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Yes, nobody can argue about the importance of loyalty to Trump that Trump demanded - and has continued to received in large amounts.

    The very idea that a criminal could lead the Republican party even after his crimes are so solidly laid out is just startling.
     
    Bowerbird likes this.
  8. HereWeGoAgain

    HereWeGoAgain Banned

    Joined:
    Nov 11, 2016
    Messages:
    27,942
    Likes Received:
    19,979
    Trophy Points:
    113
    This thread is nothing but crackpot BS - less WillReadmore.
     
    Bowerbird likes this.
  9. RoanokeIllinois

    RoanokeIllinois Banned Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 24, 2022
    Messages:
    1,952
    Likes Received:
    950
    Trophy Points:
    113

    "China is the biggest producer of greenhouse gasses ONLY because they have far more people.

    The USA is worse on a per capita basis."

    So, let me get this, straight..........American Democrat Politicians have been preaching to Americans for easily over 50+ years about Global Warming, and in that time, they've passed bill after bill after bill, and they're about to pass another bill, wasting billions on global warming.

    And in all of that time, going threw all of that money, you're saying that America produces more gases then China?
    lmao!!!!

    You shot yourself in the foot there buddy with your own words.

    that would only show How Corrupt American Democrat Politicians are, and how many of billions if not trillions of American tax payers dollars they have wasted over the years for programs, and cleaning up Emissions, and different kinds of electricity, and cars, and gases, and solar, and wind energy.

    I like your post, very much though.


    Even though, yes, China is a lot less clean, and could care less about the energy and smog they produce over there. And the American Democrat Politicians could do something about it, but won't, because they could care less about global warming. They only care about it, for their Agenda, money, and power. That's it. lol.
     
  10. RoanokeIllinois

    RoanokeIllinois Banned Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 24, 2022
    Messages:
    1,952
    Likes Received:
    950
    Trophy Points:
    113
    besides china. That limits how many children people can have. lol

    Maybe you didn't read my original post. It has plenty of examples, of what I "don't like" about science.
     
    Last edited: Aug 9, 2022
  11. RoanokeIllinois

    RoanokeIllinois Banned Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 24, 2022
    Messages:
    1,952
    Likes Received:
    950
    Trophy Points:
    113
    the less complex politicians are, the easier it is for them to Lie, get away with it, and Not have to explain anything to their people in general. That's why I'm a Conservative. Because, whilst we have to many traitor rhino's and establishment republicans in the party, the far right Conservatives, have a lot more substance, morality and logic behind them.
     
    expatpanama likes this.
  12. RoanokeIllinois

    RoanokeIllinois Banned Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 24, 2022
    Messages:
    1,952
    Likes Received:
    950
    Trophy Points:
    113
    the truth hurts, those who don't want it, nor accept it, and for those whom would rather live a lie.
     
  13. (original)late

    (original)late Banned

    Joined:
    Aug 19, 2015
    Messages:
    8,372
    Likes Received:
    4,001
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    They are getting worse, no doubt.
     
    Bowerbird likes this.
  14. pitbull

    pitbull Banned Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2018
    Messages:
    6,149
    Likes Received:
    2,857
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Science is neither abortion nor being gay. These are political issues. And yes, I also think most American democrats are pro-gay and pro-abortion. What's your problem?
    :)
     
  15. Mushroom

    Mushroom Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 13, 2009
    Messages:
    12,559
    Likes Received:
    2,458
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    This is not really a "science" topic at all, it is a political one.

    Why not take this to one of the political areas where it really belongs?
     
  16. WillReadmore

    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 21, 2013
    Messages:
    60,043
    Likes Received:
    16,497
    Trophy Points:
    113
    We have spent little money on climate change.

    No, the USA is a lot less clean than China. We emit more greenhouse gas per capita than does China, by a LOT.

    Blaming China because it has a lot of people doesn't make sense. Plus, China is the world leader in all phases of clean energy technology.

    Automobile emissions have led to MPG requirements and direct mitigations, but those bills have been passed because of pollution of our cities, NOT because of climate change. Also, a lot of the MPG pressure on US Auto came from foreign cars that gave customers much better mileage for their fuel dollar.

    You haven't presented ANY evidence of your "agenda, money, and power" idea.
     
    Bowerbird likes this.
  17. Bowerbird

    Bowerbird Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 13, 2009
    Messages:
    92,763
    Likes Received:
    74,225
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    What is amazing is the profound lack of understanding in relation to the basics of science
     
  18. WillReadmore

    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 21, 2013
    Messages:
    60,043
    Likes Received:
    16,497
    Trophy Points:
    113
    China's 3 child limit is certainly objectionable by our standards.

    But, it has nothing to do with science.

    I don't believe you have a valid complaint about science.
     
    Bowerbird likes this.
  19. WillReadmore

    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 21, 2013
    Messages:
    60,043
    Likes Received:
    16,497
    Trophy Points:
    113
    You're probably right in this case, but it does bring up a serious problem that science can not ignore.

    We can't just sit by and watch the media, politicians, and the rest project absolutely false ideas and then even base policy on those false ideas.

    Communication is a two way street. I think there is more that science needs to do.
     
    Bowerbird and Aleksander Ulyanov like this.
  20. WillReadmore

    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 21, 2013
    Messages:
    60,043
    Likes Received:
    16,497
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I want my representatives representing ME. That means that there won't be total agreement, but I will get represented.

    I'm not interested in the model where congressmen toady to McConnell and party central, NOT to their constituencies.
     
    Bowerbird and Aleksander Ulyanov like this.
  21. RoanokeIllinois

    RoanokeIllinois Banned Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 24, 2022
    Messages:
    1,952
    Likes Received:
    950
    Trophy Points:
    113
    So, what you're saying, is that there is no Science in Abortion? Medical procedures have no relation to science? is what you're saying. lol. ppppffft. lmao! stem cells have no relations to science? cutting up babies and using them for scientifica research, has no relation to science?

    Chemical embalances within the body and brain, have nothing to do with being gay, and Science?

    You might wish to actually find out, what real "Science", is my friend. I think that you're using the liberal Politically correct, make up your own definition of what Science is. Either that, or anything that doesn't agree with the Democrat Politicians Agenda in America, is anti Science then maybe? lmao.
     
  22. RoanokeIllinois

    RoanokeIllinois Banned Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 24, 2022
    Messages:
    1,952
    Likes Received:
    950
    Trophy Points:
    113
    So child bearing, and abortion have nothing to do with Science? pppppppppppppfffffffffffttttttttttttttt.

    God, please help these people, from themselves.
     
  23. WillReadmore

    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 21, 2013
    Messages:
    60,043
    Likes Received:
    16,497
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Nope. I didn't say that. I'm saying that the opposition to abortion is social/political/religious.

    You really need to do LOT better than claiming that someone is "cutting up babies and using them for scientific research.
    There are branches of science that investigate issues of sexuality from various angles.

    Is that what you mean?
    If you have something to complain about, please be specific.
     
  24. WillReadmore

    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 21, 2013
    Messages:
    60,043
    Likes Received:
    16,497
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Again, various branches of science study issues of procreation, sexuality, etc.

    What do you mean by suggesting that these issues "have nothing to do with science"?
     
  25. RoanokeIllinois

    RoanokeIllinois Banned Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 24, 2022
    Messages:
    1,952
    Likes Received:
    950
    Trophy Points:
    113
    What is the "Science", then?
     

Share This Page