For those who think the election doubters have no grounds-

New Judicial Watch Study Finds 353 U.S. Counties in 29 States with Voter Registration Rates Exceeding 100%


"(Washington, DC) – Judicial Watch announced today that a September 2020 study revealed that 353 U.S. counties had 1.8 million more registered voters than eligible voting-age citizens. In other words, the registration rates of those counties exceeded 100% of eligible voters. The study found eight states showing state-wide registration rates exceeding 100%: Alaska, Colorado, Maine, Maryland, Michigan, New Jersey, Rhode Island, and Vermont.

The September 2020 study collected the most recent registration data posted online by the states themselves. This data was then compared to the Census Bureau’s most recent five-year population estimates, gathered by the American Community Survey (ACS) from 2014 through 2018. ACS surveys are sent to 3.5 million addresses each month, and its five-year estimates are considered to be the most reliable estimates outside of the decennial census.
https://www.judicialwatch.org/new-jw-study-voter-registration/"

This isn't new- but it's showing up again as the question of legitimacy is being illustrated by the incompetence in office, and wondering if the public was so foolish they didn't see it coming.

Did the people really vote for this mess we are in?

 

The problem is when those dead voters vote anyway.

 

Yes, and all couple of dozens of times that this does happen, it is a serious problem . . . not enough to change the election, but still something to look into at some point.

 

Do you have some evidence that this only happens 24 times Nationwide per election?

 

That's about as much as we've found so far, but if you want to be the first person in our country's history to show that there is outcome determinative fraud in our Presidential elections, go for it! I'll pay for the postage on your Nobel prize!

 

I'm not the one sitting here making empty claims.

 

Yes. You literally are. You've made empty claims about massive voter fraud. And failed. Again.

 

Now you're literally fabricating things from thin air. I said no such thing so I think you might be confusing me with some other poster

 

So you no longer claim voter fraud! Awesome!

 

You’ve got em this time!
Good job!

 

Like I'm going to trust JW, a highly right wing site, with statistical data and false conclusions. Hell, they even state right in their methodology the data is wrong.

Certain state voter registration lists may also be even larger than reported, because they may have excluded “inactive voters” from their data. Inactive voters, who may have moved elsewhere, are still registered voters and may show up and vote on election day and/or request mail-in ballots.

Well, gee, duh-h-h....ya think your conclusions might also be wrong?

And GatewayPundit, another ultra right wing site, got a similar debunking:

https://www.factcheck.org/2020/12/flawed-calculation-behind-false-claim-of-fraudulent-votes/

I wonder if JW is doing something similar in it's 'proof'? Ya think?

The conclusion that discrepancies in voter registration rates automatically indicate voter fraud is flawed because:

1. Data Timing and Updates: Voter registration data and census data are not always synchronized. Registration data can lag, especially after large population movements or close to registration deadlines.
   
   
2. Voter Registration Maintenance: Voter rolls can include outdated entries due to people not updating their registration after moving or passing away. This doesn't necessarily indicate fraudulent votes but rather a need for regular maintenance of voter lists.
   
   
3. Misinterpretation of Data: High registration rates can occur for legitimate reasons, such as successful voter registration drives. It's a leap to equate this with fraudulent voting without further evidence.
   
   
4. Diverse Factors Influencing Data: Demographic changes, migration patterns, and administrative processes vary across regions, influencing registration rates.
   
   
5. Need for Contextual Analysis: Each case of over-registration requires individual examination to determine the reasons, which could be administrative, demographic, or other non-fraudulent factors.

It's important to approach such studies with a critical eye and understand that voter registration discrepancies do not automatically equate to voter fraud.

JW is factored over 37 states, and these factors could easily account for the 1.8 million number.

You have proven ZERO.

Here's a fact for you:

Every election has irregularities. None prove 'Dems stole the election'.

NONE. I can disprove with logic. Let me know if you are interested in learning about 'logic'.

JW failed fact checks:

• DHS Quietly Moving, Releasing ‘Vanloads’ of ‘Illegal Aliens’ Away from Border – FALSE
• Has Nancy Pelosi spent $100,000 on food, booze, and “partying” during her air travel? – FALSE
• Judicial Watch says ISIS operating a camp in Mexico–near El Paso – FALSE
• ‘Islamic Refugee’ with Gas Pipeline Plans Arrested in New Mexico Border County – FALSE
• Did the IRS ‘Fast Track’ Tax-Exempt Status for ‘After School Satan’ Clubs? – FALSE
• “More than 100,000 DACA applicants have been arrested—Murder, Rape, DUI.” – MOSTLY FALSE
• Did a legal settlement between Judicial Watch and California election officials prove that one million illegal votes were cast in the 2018 elections in California? – FALSE
• Donald Trump was allowed to destroy classified documents – MOSTLY FALSE

 

Welcome to the inanity club -- those that think the number of registrations exceeding the number of voters (not "votes") is nothing but bull****.

 

Half of the reason JFK fraudulently beat Nixon in 1960 was dead people voting in Chicago.

 

Uhh, you do realize that even if Illinois' electoral votes had gone to Nixon, Kennedy still would have won the election with his electoral votes from other states, right?

All elections have irregularities, none have proven sufficient that one side rigged the election.

 

that's not the point, the point is proving that one side stole the election is bullshit. All elections have irregularities.

 

The Office of Special Counsel’s second interim report found nursing homes in
Milwaukee, Dane, and Racine counties with 100 percent turnout due to the
Wisconsin Election Commission’s order #51

These are people who are on their death beds and wonder around like Joe Biden not knowing what planet they are on...

https://www.wpr.org/sites/default/files/osc-second-interim-report.pdf

 

There are always more registrations than voters. Every time. A child can explain why very easily. Do you require this?

 

Cool story, bro. Feel free to start a thread where that has anything to do with the topic and I will check it out.

 

The study was based on population "estimates" from 2014 to 2017. Could there have been an increase in voting population by 2020?
We will have a problem when dead people vote, but there has been no credible evidence that that has happened.
Did you also notice that a majority of the states/counties mentioned in the study were Republican.

 

You are mistaken.

Yes, give your explanation so that we can see what has led you to this erroneous conclusion.

 

. . . OMG, I'm sorry, I didn't realize I'd have to deal with this level of nonsense. I gave you a chance to rethink, and you refused to think at all. ALL US elections involve more registered voters than actual voters. I'm giving you another chance to try to think about this. Think. Rub those cells together.

 

Yes you already put forth your belief.

Now explain your thought process so that we can identify what has led you to this mistake. You offered to do so, now back up your words.

 

This isn't a "thought process" so much as it is "try thinking for two seconds." You are literally claiming that ANY US ELECTION WIHTOUT 100% PARTICIPATION RATE IS FRAUDLENT. That's insane. Think. Try. Think.

 

For starters, I have not said anything in favor or against the OP, but I can see what you are saying.

You are claiming that there is nothing wrong with there being more voters registered than there are eligible voters which is what the OP is alleging. I personally know nothing about the specifics of that claim one way or the other.

I understand that you are trying to allege that dead voters on the voter roles prior to being purged mean that there are more registered voters than actual people that are eligible to vote. The problem with that logic is that about .3% of the population dies in a given year, and most voter rolls are purged within 10 years which is being generous. This would equate to 3% of eligible voters over a ten year period that would be represented on the voter registration list.

If that told the entire story you would be 100% correct, but unfortunately for you, only about 69% of eligible voters are in fact registered.
Registered Voters by State 2024 (worldpopulationreview.com)
"According to the U.S. Census Bureau, the percentage of the citizen voting-age population registered to vote was 69.1% in the 2022 midterm election1. "



That number FAR exceeds those that have died and are still listed as registered.

The net result of this would be that if voter registration were to actually surpass 100% of eligible voters, this would in fact point to serious problems. I dont know if that claim is correct or not, but I do know that your response to it is 100% incorrect. The numbers that you are pointing to do not total anywhere near what you are implying. 30% of qualified voters not registered is in no way eclipsed by dead people on voter roles etc.

You have assumed that registered voters equates to eligibly voters, and that assumption is off by approx 30% of all people qualified to vote.

 

So you aren't willing to discuss the topic? Why?

There isn't a magic spell that removes people when they die. And there is no evidence that ANY of this is related to outcome determinative fraud.

I'm sure your evidence of fraud is coming any day now.