Forget Kennedy Dems. Here Comes the 2024 Kennedy Voter

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  1. fmw

    fmw Well-Known Member

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    Your guess is as good as mine. Maybe better since my crystal ball has some cracks in it.
     
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    I wouldn't be surprised to hear on the news that the Justice Dept had a swat team raid RFK's house at 3 AM and take him into custody. He would be charged with sexual assault by a bimbo he went to high school with. Then Hillary would hold a press conference and say she had proof RFK was a Russian spy. Biden would say he didn't know anything until he heard it on the news.
     
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    Now we have TWO strong alternatives to Bribed Joe, cuz things aren't going to well for America with Bribed Joe in charge.

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    RFK Jr. Is in It To Win It, Not Spoil It

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    A Fresh Choice.

    'Robert F. Kennedy has called for comity. "We need to start listening to each other, even when it's difficult," Kennedy told supporters Tuesday.'

    "We need to sift through the anger," Kennedy added.

    RFK brings a New Hope.

    'The occasion was Kennedy's announcement that his running mate would be Nicole Shanahan, a patent attorney and philanthropist who once was married to Google co-founder Sergey Brin.'

    'Kennedy, 70, boasted that he chose Shanahan, 38, because she breaks the mold. She is young. She has never run for office. She shares Kennedy's skepticism about COVID lockdowns and vaccine mandates. Like Kennedy, she's a surfer.'

    'Both former Democrats claim that they didn't leave the party; the Democratic Party left them.'

    Dems may want cto pay attention to some of the folks that they've left as they have backslidden from Free Democracy to Authoritarianism.

    'The running-mate announcement was held in Oakland, where Kennedy lived shortly and Shanahan grew up. Her mother immigrated from China and her father dealt with mental health issues. She spoke about growing up poor and depending on food stamps.'

    'Establishment Democrats tell everyone who will listen that Kennedy and Shanahan are "spoilers" -- that their candidacy inevitably will throw support away from President Joe Biden and help former President Donald Trump.'

    'If so, that's what the party gets for pushing the most entrenched but least enticing Democrat in the game.'

    When Biden implodes, they'll be grateful for the choice that RFK offers.
     
  5. conservaliberal

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    I wish I could share your optimism about RFK Jr. and Shanahan. My honest guess is that RFK's ticket won't even get the 19% of the popular vote that Ross Perot got in 1992... and not one single Electoral College vote, either.

    No, I'm not happy about having to say that, but it's true. Democrats will sweep the field, Zorro, propelling us even faster toward the death of our republic. They've successfully pandered to a solid majority of Blacks, Latinos, White 'bottom-feeder' liberals, the 'multi-gender' faction, and, welfare-seeking parasites of every color and creed. They're going to win in November, and we may as well get ready for it.

    Republicans have been setting themselves up for this ever since Justice Alito launched his incredibly stupid jihad against 'Roe v Wade' in the SCOTUS two years ago, and now some of the Republicans in Congress are loading the gun to shoot themselves in the other foot during this election year by creating headlines already like this:

    "Republicans warm to Social Security, Medicare reform as 2024 election nears.
    Entitlement programs account for roughly 70% of government spending
    "

    Link: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/re...-security-medicare-reform-2024-election-nears

    Sure, it's true that RFK Jr. won't poach as many votes from Republicans as he will from Democrats -- but -- 'at the end of the day', we'll be stuck for four more miserable years with some kind of 'woke' liberal Democrat sitting in the Oval Office. I wish I were wrong, but I'm not... this country has pretty much wrecked itself already, and nobody is happier about this than our adversaries throughout the rest of the world.
     
  6. Eleuthera

    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    The only think about Kennedy I don't like is his recent switch to mindless supporter of Tel Aviv. Maybe he joined AIPAC?

    Otherwise I like him, but will vote LP unless Trump names Tulsi.
     
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    You’re giving Biden too much credit. He’s as disliked as much as Trump is for different reasons. This rematch is one most Americans don’t want, abhor the thought of. They don’t want Biden reelected and at the same time don’t want Trump to regain the white house. For this reason, RFK Jr. is attractive if he can get on enough state ballots. You have 34% of all Americans who view Biden favorably, but not Trump. 37% of all Americans view Trump favorably, not Biden. The big kicker in this is 26% of all Americans view both Trump and Biden unfavorably or negatively. You’re left with over 60% of all Americans having a negative view of Trump with another 60% plus having a negative view of Biden counting the group than views both negatively.

    https://www.pewresearch.org/short-r...ve-unfavorable-views-of-both-biden-and-trump/

    Biden’s reelection is far from certain. You’re talking about a president whose overall job approval is at 40%. His approval on how Biden is handling a host of other issues is for the most part below 40%.

    https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/approval/joe-biden/approval-rating

    https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/approval/joe-biden/issues

    Those numbers would normally indicate a landslide win for the republicans. But the GOP has nominated Trump. As I stated, he’s as disliked and unwanted to become the next president as Biden is. For Biden to win, he needs Trump as his opponent. For Trump to win, he needs Biden as his opponent. The two major parties have obliged each other in this. I firmly believe almost any other republican than Trump would trounce Biden while almost any other democrat would whip Trump in landslide proportions.

    RFK Jr. provides a ray of sunshine through these dark, dreary, black storm clouds of dislike and unwantedness by most Americans for both major party candidates.
     
  8. Just A Man

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    RFK is taking some firm stands. He wants the southern border wall built. He wants all illegal aliens in the USA deported to their home land. He is against gun registration and believes in the 2nd Amendment. He wants to stop sending money to Ukraine and spend the money in the USA. I like his education plan (student loans) and I like his idea on the environment, ie., clean water. I don't like his policy of being pro unions, free child care, "transforming" the police (what ever that means), a $15 minimum wage, and he has yet said where he stands on abortion. All-in-all he has an uphill climb. Maybe if he gets a good percentage of the vote as an Independent, he might send a message to the other DC politicians. We need more people running with many ideas.
     
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    RFK Jr. has always been a staunch supporter of Israel.
    RFK was murdered by a Palestinian angry at his support for Israel.
    This is no recent conversion, these are his deep seated long term commitments and beliefs.
     
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    I very much doubt that Biden will even be running, as I've posted several times before. I truly believe he'll announce his retirement at the Dem convention in August and throw his support to some liberal, 'woke' toilet-dweller and then go home.

    But it's the DEMOCRAT PARTY which will win, nevertheless! They are the party of government welfare, handouts, subsidies, 'services', loan-forgiveness, and other 'free stuff'. More Americans are addicted to all these government programs now than ever before! And they will vote accordingly....
     
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    Then how come we are leading on every polling metric?

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    Bribed Joe is running for re-election, already has enough delegates for a first round victory, and nearly 1/4 Dems do not expect him to even be the nominee.
    That looks like **** stirring.

    Check this out from the story:

    'The Republican Study Committee, a 175-member House GOP group led by Rep. Kevin Hern, R-Okla., recently released a budget proposal that called for raising the "retirement age for future retirees to account for increases in life expectancy" as well as restructuring Medicare to compete with private options.'

    The hyperlink pretends it supports the quote - https://www.foxnews.com/politics/to...dget-proposal-emphasizes-us-energy-production

    I key word searched it to for the word retirement, and guess what, the word is never used in the article. Now years ago, while US life expectancy was rising, retirement age was rising, but it no longer is, so I wondered if this article was rerunning long expired past positions, but, they either linked the wrong article or the whole claim is BS.

    1. [​IMG]https://www.health.harvard.edu › blog › why-life-expectancy-in-the-us-is-falling-202210202835
      Why life expectancy in the US is falling - Harvard Health
      Oct 20, 2022A dramatic fall in life expectancy. With rare exceptions, life expectancy has been on the rise in the US: it was 47 years in 1900, 68 years in 1950, and by 2019 it had risen to nearly 79 years. But it fell to 77 in 2020 and dropped further, to just over 76, in 2021. That's the largest decrease over a two-year span since the 1920s.
    2. [​IMG]https://www.weforum.org › agenda › 2020 › 01 › us-life-expectancy-decline
      US life expectancy is falling - here's why - The World Economic Forum
      Life expectancy in the US has been falling since 2014; ... Rising drug deaths. The problem has been attributed to an increase in mortality among the young and middle-aged. Between 1999 and 2017, deaths caused by drug overdoses rose by 386.5% (from 6.7 deaths/100,000 to 32.5 deaths/100,000). A
    US life expectancy has been falling for a decade.
    We get disinformation campaigns launched on us in multiples, specifically to strip us of our confidence and courage. Keep in mind that they are launched by liars. We the longest surviving democracy in existence today, by far, and one of the longest surviving nations of any type of government, in existence, today. We are an amazingly durable and resilient people.

    Never count the American People out, as Churchill said, "you can always count on Americans to do the right thing, after they try everything else."

    We'll get there.
     
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    Try to imagine Joe Biden four years from now at age 85, if he hasn't assumed room temperature.
     
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    You are probably right that Jr. has always been a staunch supporter of Israel, and if that's the case, I doubt I could vote for him. So are Trump and Biden, and maybe even Tulsi. Likely I'll be voting LP again.

    That Sirhan killed RFK is very much in doubt. He was a patsy just like Lee Harvey and James Earl Ray.
     
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    Israel definitely has a number of faults, but if we're being realistic, who do you want to associate yourself with in the Middle East? Israel, or, a widespread population of Muslim "true believers" who think that the only way to obey the commands of Islam as revealed in their holy book, the Quran, is to make war on you because you're an unbelieving "infidel"...? Tough choice? :no:

    Useful, factual information: https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/violence.aspx
     
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    Well, he was there in front of him firing a pistol at him, so not exactly a 'patsy', though he may not have fired the bullets that actually killed RFK, he most certainly was not an 'innocent'.
     
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    I practice DISASSOCIATING myself from those people who use religion to rationalize the murder of other humans. Organized religion is a bunch of BS. Alan Watts wrote his article "The Most Dangerous Book In The World" back about 1976. He was right--organized religion has been responsible for many if not most of the wars humans have engaged in throughout history.

    Sadly, Organized Religion = Man's Inhumanity to Man.
     
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    Do you suppose he might have been a patsy from MKULTRA? So many "lone gunman" in so many "school shootings" here in the US fit that profile.
     
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    Your viewpoint certainly makes a lot of sense -- sincerely! But, when we're dealing with the real world of nations, religions, and populations (plus a host of other tangible issues), we must "take sides". Why? Because in a roiling hot-bed of hatred like the Middle East is, and has been for many hundreds of years, NOBODY seems interested in living in peace and mutual respect or human decency. The Jewish and Islamic factions can't tolerate each other, and in the Middle East as elsewhere, "nature deplores a vacuum". So, who fills this 'vacuum'?

    As it so often is in many other considerations, it's a matter of choosing "the lesser of two evils"... and for many reasons, all things considered as they stand today, I would choose to support Israel over its terrorist Muslim antagonists.

    Consider: a radical Muslim sees nothing wrong with beheading an "infidel" merely because he is an "infidel". And although Israel's conduct is in many ways not admirable, at least nobody in Israel advocates doing anything like THAT....
     
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    Lying Fake News Disinformation Artists strike again:

    Kennedy: CNN Edited Interview So It Looked Like I Said Biden Was More Of A Threat To Democracy Than Trump

    'In an interview Tuesday with NewsNation host Chris Cuomo, 2024 Independent presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr. discussed his interview on CNN on Monday in which he told anchor Erin Burnett he could "make the argument that President Biden is much worse." Kennedy accused CNN of editing the interview and said, "they cut my quote so it looked like I was making this definitive statement that Biden was more of a threat to democracy than Trump. But of course, I never said that. But that's the way it made me look crazy to liberals."'

    '"I didn't say definitively whether I believed one or the other was more dangerous to democracy, I did say that I don't believe either of them are going to destroy democracy….they they're both lame duck presidents," Kennedy told Cuomo.'

    Why do these asshats lie about everything, all the time?

    Rather than constantly lying to the American People, how come they don't put the same effort into establishing an honest relationship with us?

    We need to pick some honest politicians, and work to support folks who communicate honestly to us. These constant coordinated overlapping disinformation campaigns against us illustrate their shortcomings, not ours.

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    I have no clue.

    For a fact based accounting based on the autopsy report, you cannot do better than RFK's interview with Joe Rogan. RFK is no slouch, he's probably the best environmental attorney in the country, well, he beat Monsanto's team of attorneys in the Round Up case. He knows how to put together a clean, well researched argument and present it effectively.
     
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    Bribed Joe is running as a spoiler to prevent the election of RFK
     
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    I say any group, racial, religious or otherwise, that would have me believe that they are special (logically requiring others to be inferior somehow) is vain and practicing sophistry.
     
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    It is starting to look that way, yes.
     
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    RFK has no chance and thank goodness. He's no better than Trump or Biden.
     

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