Fraud!! Trump is found LIABLE of FRAUD & LYING

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  1. MiaBleu

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    A New York judge has found Donald Trump and his adult sons liable for fraud, saying the Trumps provided false financial statements for roughly a decade.

    Judge Arthur Engoron’s ruling came days before the civil case involving the New York attorney general’s office and the former president was set to go to trial.

    CNN reporting.

    This is hurting Trump where it hurts. MONEY is everything to him as is his illusion of success.

    BAD day for Donald. BUT he had it coming.
     
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    Watch as he uses money donated by his cult followers to pay the restitution.
     
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    EXACTLY!!! and the fools continue to financially pay his bills and now this.
    The pathetic thing is that they don't mind. (or don't seem to)
     
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    They believe every lie he tells. To them, every court that rules against him is part of some political plot.

    This could be the greatest threat that American democracy has ever faced, Trump's power over people. Power that they give him because they feel powerless themselves and want a dictator to empower them.
     
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    ETTD..........
     
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    Con Don has all the cons covered. Con(servative), Con(fidence) man, and hopefully soon, Con(vict).
     
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    I agree completely. They have bought into his lies and have hardened their support for him to a FANATICAL degree. They have lost objectivity (as they swirl around in T's alternate realty).
    History has shown how the power of such groups can go amiss.
    They are an angry bunch reflecing T in persona, and are prone to violence to support this psychopath. They probably don't even know what psychopath means.
    What he has been found liable for is reflection of his long standing pattern of behavior. It has been his DEFAULT behavior.
    One can only hope that with each legal result not favoring him will disqualify him from running.
    But today is a good day for justice, the law and democracy. And I will take that ;-)
     
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    He doesn't have a conservative bone(spur) in his body.
     
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    Yes , sadly true.
     
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    Trumpites behave like Stalin lovers did and how Putinistas do. They do not have one brain cell of self respect. Some of them know that they ( Trump and Putin) are lying to them and they love it. They live on their lies.
     
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    sadly, you are so right. One has to wonder what is it that makes them do this and wit such fervor. It is like cultural phenomena. What it suggests is that they are not happy in a democracy. As in a way they are rejecting the principles so imperative to a democracy.
    It is astonishing to see what ONE person can do to influence folks into a style of thinking, believing.

    This one person is OUT OF BUSINES in NY. !!! He over inflated the value of his properties and played Russian Roulette...... (figuratively speaking)
     
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    Did he what? I keep thinking of all those small businesses he apparently put out of business with his practice of taking small businesses to court instead of paying them and then “running out the clock” until many of them went bankrupt
     
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    You are correct.That “person” inflated his worth when it came to securing a loan and for insurance losses but deflated his property values when it came to taxes.
     
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    Fraud (and lying) has been a lifelong pattern of his. there is NOTHING ethical about this person. He should have been disqualified from running in the first place. Would have prevented this ugly saga from happening.
    Candidates running (applying ) for the top job have to meet more criteria and requirements than happens now. MONEY is the only criteria it seems.
    So, in some ways this rests on the voters too. And how they make their decision about this.
     
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    Argues that there should be a wider criteria for eligibility than just age and birth status
     
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    Is this your defense of T??? Blame the judge and the legal system?? Rite out of T's playbook.
     
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    It is not a defense of Trump as much as it is a revulsion of irrational people.
     
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    Why George Conway says Trump organization is 'out of business'
     
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    'Devastating': Trump suffers potentially catastrophic loss in court; Judge 'furious'


    Will America's favorite con man lose his golden toilet?
     
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    Maybe they will let him have a faux golden toilet.
    This really does change things. He is already spewing his usual trash on social media. attacking the judge, the process. and continues to claim his "incense"
    If he cannot face reality to the degree that it seems and just projects onto everyone that he hates .......the man is menially disordered. (but then we know that alrady)

    He might be decompensating as his speeches' are showing confusition, and his rage is overtaking him. That stress level is bound to have a negative effet. All of his own creation.
     
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    And yet Trump COULD have had a jury trial. His lawyer mucked up and did not tick the right box But this is hardly the first time Trump has been found guilty of dodgy business practices
     
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    I hear that when Trump wins in 2024 he is going to increase the rent in anti-Trumpers heads! OMG! I can imagine the caterwauling we Normies are going to have to bear!
     
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    That will make their heads explode…. But fear not… there is no clean up needed after a lefty’s head explodes. Maybe sweep up some skull pieces.
     
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    yeah, this was not a rounding error. Trump overvalued js condo in Trump Tower by 200% and the Mar a Lago property by 2300%. The banks who loan him the money are also complicit and should face consequences by the investors or legal action.
     
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