Free Market Fundamentalist Ideology is based on a Logical Fallacy.

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  1. james M

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    His expenses likely aren't against the law. They do, however, illustrate his use of political contributions for expenses that don't fall squarely in the realm of donations to other campaigns.


    Paul is also highlighted in the report for his lower-than-average contributions to other candidates or committees. The report says less than 7 percent of his expenses over the past three election cycles have gone to others, according to figures from the Center for Responsive Politics. On average, 45 percent of lawmakers' leadership PAC spending goes toward such donations.

    The Center for Responsive Politics shows that in the 2018 cycle, Paul's contributions to other candidates constitute 15.6 percent of spending from his leadership PAC.
     
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    How easily you celebrate rent seeking behaviour!
     
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    why not cut the BS over trivia and say something in support of libcommieism?
     
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    in the US most of the important libertarians like Ron and Rand Paul are in the Republican Party. 1+1=2
     
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    so how does this apply to capitalism? Do you have any idea?
     
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    to a liberal trolling occurs when they are losing a debate. Ever see a conservative have to run from a debate? What does that teach you?
     
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    They're not libertarians. They're conservatives looking for an exotic label. Nothing more but rent seekers
     
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    they have been libertarians all their lives and nobody questions it. Sorry we don't need your old world BS.
     
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    Mere reference to political economy. There's a reason American fake libertarian sites are funded by the rich...
     
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    Like taxation?
     
  11. Reiver

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    Shall we add rent to the economic concepts beyond your comprehension?
     
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    Can you explain it to us?
     
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    American was founded as a libertarian country.
     
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    You may want to rethink that statement, just a little bit.
     
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    You made the weasel accusation. Don't hide now.
     
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    So you have no clue whatsoever about worker owned corporations and how they successfully compete against for profit corporations?
     
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    Which FAILED miserably which is WHY libertarianism was ABANDONED as WORSE than USELESS and REPLACED with our current Constitutional Republic that has a STRONG central government.
     
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    Which is why Darwinism has favoured for profit companies.
     
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    Ignorance is bliss!

    Explain why Mondragon was still successful when for profit corporations were laying off workers after the Republican 2008 economic crash?
     
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    Ah yes ignorance.

    Must companies are indeed non profit making.

    After ten's of thousands of years of human social development. Hippy's and Marxists have inherited the earth.

    Oh no.
    My bad.

    I was just being ignorant.

    Explain how Mondragon employs more people than Apple. In 2008 or indeed in any year ever.
    Oh no it doesn't. It never has and it never will.
    I was just being ignorant.
     
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    He'll also be clueless over the empirical evidence, showing how worker ownership and co-operatives are more productive (e.g. Logue and Yates, 2006, Cooperatives, Worker-Owned Enterprises, Productivity and the International Labor Organization, Economic & Industrial Democracy, Vol 27, pp 686-690). The sheep enabling the rent seeker doesn't understand the difference between maxing profitability and productivity.
     
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    Look, you too, need to be reminded that this is a DEBATE FORUM and this particular section is called "Economics".

    If you've never had a course in Economics, frankly, you should not be leaving one-liner sarcasms. There's enough BS from the Right-wingers who haven't the foggiest notion about either (1) how an economy works because they are fixated on income or (2) the fact that socialism is virtually dead everywhere, and (3) the US has about 40 million people living below the Poverty Threshold (and this has been true since .

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    Whilst Social Democracies are very much alive and well! In fact, the one called the European Union has about twice the population of the US and doing well-enough coming out of the Great Recession that the US gifted to the world.

    Better yet, whether you are in poverty of not, the European country governments will pay for both your Health Care and your Post-secondary education - which give you at least a fighting chance to exist from poverty ...
     
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    Why, look at me. I've worked my way up from nothing to a state of extreme poverty.
     
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    He also forgot to mention that the EU embraces neoliberalism. Tell the Greeks than Europe is social democratic. Be ready for the laughter.
     
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    Neoliberalism, do you folks always need to make up new words with old words?
     

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