Gay pedophilia accepted by Gay Activist Groups

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  1. texmaster

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    When you liberals pretend to be outraged when pedophilia and homosexuality are used in the same argument remember what your far left Hollywood buddies glorify and your "gay rights" activists fail to condemn.

    As Liberace's larger-than-life biopic debuts in one month, ET's Brooke Anderson met with the singer's former lover in Reno, Nevada, where he's been incarcerated for over two months.

    Jess Marlow, formerly known as Scott Thorson, wrote the book that the HBO movie Behind the Candelabra is based on. The book and movie detail his decadent days with one of the biggest entertainers of all time -- the parties, the celebrities, the fame -- but today Marlow is living a different life all together.

    "It's always wonderful to have money and fame, but I think that's where my problems started," said Marlow. "Too much was given to me too soon and I didn't know how to handle it."

    "A lot of people would think of him as a child molester," said Marlow, who (at 16) was 47 years younger than Liberace when they were together. "He baited me with wealth and fame ... Today he would have been arrested for child endangerment."



    http://www.etonline.com/news/133418_ET_Visits_Liberace_s_Former_Lover_Behind_Bars/index.html

    Spare us all your fake outrage when a pedophile is glorified by Hollywood and your preceious "gay rights" activists all in unison say nothing to condemn this sick bastard taking advantage of a 16 year old boy 47 years younger.

    Perfect Example: Gladd's repost:

    So sometimes, on this here third rock from the sun, a thing happens when a man will fall in love with and/or be sexually attracted to another man or a woman will fall in love with and/or be sexually attracted to another woman. Often, this is called "being a gay person" (ˈbē(-i)ŋ ā ˈgā ˈpər-sən) and it occurs rather frequently all over the world. These "gay people" (ˈgā ˈpē-pəl) live lives just like non-gay people, which means that some of their lives are really boring and some of their lives are exciting and worth talking about. Like, hypothetically, there's probably a gay dude who spends his evenings eating canned soup and only ever talks about Sons of Anarchy — we don't really need to hear about him, not because he's gay, but because he's dull. But then there are gay guys who work for NASA or are beautiful young ranch hands or who grow up to be cape-wearing, piano playing pop stars whose stories are intrinsically interesting and movie-worth. Liberace, as noticed by Ocean's Eleven/Magic Mike director Steven Soderbergh, is one of these people. Unfortunately, none of the major Hollywood studios would help him make his Liberace biopic Behind The Candelabra because, ewwwwwww, it occasionally showed two boys kissing.

    http://www.glaad.org/news/liberace-...being-dubbed-‘too-gay’-every-studio-hollywood

    Not a single mention of how sick this relationship is. Only attacking those who are against homosexuality.

    Full story here:

    Luckily, the film, which stars Michael Douglas as Liberace and Matt Damon as the musician's younger boyfriend, has found its home on HBO, a.k.a the Cambridge, Mass. of premium cable networks.

    Luckily. The true nature of the pro homosexual groups had a golden opportunity to disprove a common belief. And they failed.

    http://jezebel.com/5973711/liberace...g-dubbed-too-gay-by-every-studio-in-hollywood


    PLEASE liberals. PLEASE defend this.
     
  2. rahl

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    who here has ever deffended pedophilia or excused it? I know I haven't. I condemn any abuse of a child.
     
  3. DevilMay

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    Yet another dirty attempt from bigoted right wingers to slander gay people and tie the gay rights movement to pedophilia...

    According to the Wikipedia entry he was 17, not 16 when they "became friends":
    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Thorson

    16 is the age of consent in 28 states by the way... Unless you're going to argue these states have pedophile laws rather than using one case as ammunition to further your anti-gay agenda, you're clearly a hypocrite.
     
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    Alright, I'm eagerly awaiting the condemnation of heterosexuality as well, because afterall, if every gay person is responsible for the actions of a few people who are gay, so too should every heterosexual answer for the crimes of any other heterosexual. Fair is fair, afterall, and it's common knowledge that the anti-gay stance is all about fairness and objectivity.
     
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    And I suppose we have to sanities history. Only make programs about people who morally acceptable. The guy has been dead 25 years, what should the gay community do, demand the corpse be dug up and put on trial?
     
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    And who says the film celebrates the man's pedophile relationship? You are just making stuff to fit your agenda
     
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    show me where gay activist groups support pedophilia.




    do you even know what pedophilia means?
     
  8. rahl

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    uh, you even quoted this post................
    and responded to it.





     
  9. SFJEFF

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    Exactly. I condemn any pedophilia or any abuse of a child.

    This young man was the same age that Priscilla Presley moved in with Elvis.

    I have never heard anyone condemn Elvis for being involved with 16 year old Priscilla. Was it wrong? Probably.

    Does it mean that is what we need to focus on 30 or 40 years later?

    I will be glad to show more examples of other entertainers and other public figures who had inappropriate and possibly illegal sexual encounters if anyone wants.

    Or does it only matter when it is an avenue to attack homosexuals?
     
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    How do you know who is "liberal" in this thread? Are those who support same-sex rights the "liberals" and the ones who don't are...what? Conservatives? Republicans? Is a liberal defined by their stance on this issue? Is everyone else?

    To answer your reply, what exactly is the point of asking for condemnation? And honestly, it's not pedophilia when a 16 year old teenager has a sexual relationship with an older person. God, a hundred years ago a 16 year old would have been married already, and possibly had children already. I know there is not a strict age limit on what is and is not pedophilia, other than it involving a "minor", so I can't say you're wrong to be trying to call this pedophilia, but I think it's a pretty darn big stretch. A 16 year old is old enough to enter into a relationship. My thinking is, if you're allowed to be on the road driving a car, where your actions can cause harm and/or death to yourself and others, you're old enough to decide on a personal relationship that just involves yourself. But, I do realize that this is a bit of a separate discussion. My point is, this is only "sick" to you because it involve homosexuality, not because it involves a 16 year old.
     
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    I condemn it as strongly as I do Elvis' relationship with Priscilla.

    Can you point me to your condemnation of that 'freak' Elvis? I can't remember ever seeing it.

    This wouldn't be selective outrage would it? Clearly not about sequins- since Elvis and Liberace both wore sequins....clearly not about performing in Las Vegas since they both performed in LV....hmmmmm what could the difference be?

    I do not think that an adult should be involved with any 16 year old- no matter the sexual preference. But if I am going to get outraged by any performer or historical figure for what he did 30 or 40 or 50 or 60 years, I am going to be spending a lot of time being outraged.
     
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    The thing is even your terminology is wrong. Even if you want to label the relationship "inappropriate", calling Liberace a pedophile is just plain wrong:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedophilia

    Even if he WAS 16 when they had a relationship (and purportedly had sex), it's perfectly legal under Nevada law today - although back in the 70's sodomy laws applied, but the heterosexual AoC was 16. He would have prosecuted under anti-sodomy laws if it had actually come to trial, not "child endangerment/sexual abuse of a minor".

    He doesn't actually say in that interview that he was 16 though - only the article claims this. His birthdate is listed as January 23, 1959 (age 54), and he acknowledges they met in 1976, so even if they had met on January 1st he would only have been 16 for 23 days tops. And it's not even as if they began their relationship on first sight, he started out by simply working for him...

    Elvis Presley met Priscilla when she was only FOURTEEN, I wonder how many topics you've posted about that?
     
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    I wont condemn it because I think age of consent should be at 15. Was the relationship "creepy"? Yes. But not a crime, not morally and not even legally in most of the world. When you are old enough to fight for your country, you are old enough to have a beer and screw anyone you want in my book.

    And I wonder how many of those who call this teen a "child" would suddenly want him tried as an adult if he commited some henious crime, lol..
     
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    Remember boys and girls, it's only "sick" and of any noteworthy when it's an older man and a younger man/teen. Heteros get a free pass.
     
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    From Elvis and Me:

    According to her account, Elvis told her that they had to wait until they were married before having intercourse. He said, "I'm not saying we can't do other things. It's just the actual encounter. I want to save it." Priscilla adds, "Fearful of not pleasing him—of destroying my image as his little girl—I resigned myself to the long wait. Instead of consummating our love in the usual way, he began teaching me other means of pleasing him. We had a strong connection, much of it sexual. The two of us created some exciting and wild times."

    Shall we mention Jerry Lee Lewis? His third marriage- to his 13 year old cousin?
     
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    I condemn actual child molestation. Pedophilia is an attraction to pre-pubescent children, not 16 year olds. So this isn't a case of pedophilia. As others have pointed out, the age of consent at the time was 16, and there's no evidence that the relationship took on a sexual dimension while Marlow/Thorsen was still a 16 year old.

    I don't see why I, personally should be required to publicly condemn every case of a same-sex relationship between an adult and a minor who has reached the age of consent. Since doing so obviously has zero effect on the opinions of those who wish to claim that homosexuals support pedophilia, why should I waste the effort? Moreover, it's clearly a case of faux moral outrage, since there is no condemnation from the other side of opposite-sex relations between adults and minors who have reached the age of consent.

    As for the organization 'being silent', don't assume that an individual being gay means they support every gay organization.

    As for Liberace, I've always found him creepy, and the things I'm learning about him as a result of this movie being made reinforce that. So don't assume that an individual being gay means they support or approve of everything another gay person does. That's just plain stupid.
     
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    Growing up in an era when Liberace was incredibly popular- it is interesting looking back- no one talked about Liberace being gay. It was like there was this collective self denial that this flaming queen was just a colorful guy who liked to hang out with young men. Liberace was incredibly popular with middle aged women.
     
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    Are you kidding? Have you even seen a preview for it? Know the subject before you comment next time.

    And you still can't bring yourself to condemn what this pedophile did to this child. Typical liberal
     
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    Quoted in the original post. Go read it.

    Far better than you do.

    Explain how this wasn't pedophilia.

    It is truly unbelievable you liberals can't condemn this freak for what he did to this boy.

    - - - Updated - - -


    Then condemn it here. Right now. Condemn what he did. General statements mean nothing rahl. Put up or shut up.
     
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    #1 She didn't move in with him until she was 18 and the difference was 10 years. This is 47 years difference. How can you sit there and pretend there is a moral equivalent?

    And if you condemn pedophilia you should be able to condemn what this freak did to this boy but like good little liberals you just can't proving my point.
     
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    Unless this guy was an absurdly late bloomer- so that he still had not gone through puberty 16 days short of his 17th birthday, this was not pedophilia.

    As was shown to you- pedophilia is considered to be attraction to pre-pubescent children.

    Calling this pedophilia is frankly an insult to children like the 10 year old that Sandusky raped.

    As pointed out by others this relationship would have been legal in Nevada at the time- except for sodomy laws that nothing to do with his age.

    Again- I condemn this exactly as strongly as I condemn what that 'freak' Elvis did to Priscilla.
     
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    Everyone so far has been a liberal. I know their posts. It isn't rocket science.

    Its a clear cut case of right vs wrong and being able to condemn pedophilia by a famous homosexaul. Which no one has been able to do in this thread but me. Its disgusting and a little surprising considering the age of the boy and near half century differnce in age.

    LOL Honestly, YEAH it is. He is a child 47 years younger. How can you pretend it isn't?

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    Does that moronic logic also give people who use the N word on the street to black people because it was used in the past? This is beyond sick you liberals will do and say anything than admit this is a clear cut case of pedophilia.
     
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    Since she was 18 when she moved in I'm not seeing the connection slick. Where do you have it on authority they were sleeping together when she was 16 because I will call him a pedo if that is true.

    Nice try but I have no problem calling a 26 year old sleeping with a 16 year old a pedo. Your inability to prove your case isn't helping yourself.

    And you still havent condemned this freak's pedophilia with this boy 47 years younger. Its sick but expected of liberals like yourself.
     
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    so you can't back up anything you've said. you pretend I don't condemn pedophilia, and you claim to know the definition of pedophilia better than I do. is that about right?

    how about you post for us the definition of pedophilia, and how a 16 year old fits that definition?
     
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    Oh so the difference was 10 years....not 47 years.....explain the moral difference here?

    Priscilla born May 24, 1945. She visited Elvis in summer of 1962- when she was 17- and that was where she first took amphetamines and sleeping pills to keep up with Elvis.

    She moved into Graceland in March or April 1963- when she was 17 years old.


    Like I keep saying- I condemn what this 'freak' did, just as strongly as I condemn what that 'freak' Elvis did.

    I am against adults having sex with minors. It isn't pedophilia, but there is a reason why it is illegal in many states.

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    As I have said several times- I condemn it as strongly as I do Elvis' relationship with Priscilla.
     

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