George Zimmerman charged with stalking man working on Trayvon

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  1. superbadbrutha

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    It is obvious you have never been in a fight in your life, if I repeatedly punch you in the face what is going to happen to my knuckles? If I am grabbing at your head and face why is it that I haven't scratched you, if I am covering your mouth and you can't breath your natural instinct is to bite my hand, why was there none of Zimmerman's saliva on Trayvon's hand. Your weak ass argument makes no sense.
     
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    No, he had right wing conservatives to fill the coffers, because he instantly became the hero of the right.

     
  3. Max Rockatansky

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    Agreed, but so was Martin. That kid was headed to become another sad statistic. He obviously had issues and was bound to end up dead or in prison. His brother, OTOH, has done well for himself. Was it because of the loss of his brother that turned him around? Would he have made something of himself if Trayvon had been killed by another wannabe gangsta or spent 5-10 years in prison for drugs? Or would he have ended up as another statistic on the CDC database?

    https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/...ns-brother-a-rising-community-organizer-v24n4
    Not a day goes by that Jahvaris Fulton doesn't think about his younger brother, Trayvon Martin. Whether it's a guy at church who looks like him at a glance, or someone around Harlem who walks like Trayvon, the memory is inescapable. Even so, Fulton wears a black bracelet on his right wrist. On one side it reads, I AM TRAYVON MARTIN; on the other, YOU ARE TRAYVON MARTIN. It's the second of its kind that he has worn since a neighborhood-watch volunteer in Sanford, Florida, killed his brother in 2012. The first bracelet snapped after years of daily wear. "It's a reminder of him," the 26-year-old told me, looking down at his arm. "Not to say I'll forget."


    In the five years since his brother's murder, Fulton has transformed from a quiet son who stayed largely out of the public eye to a rising force in New York City's local government scene and a voice inspiring young men of color to become involved in their communities. In his job as a special assistant to the NYC Young Men's Initiative (YMI), a public-private partnership with the mayor's office that launched in 2011 to help improve the lives of black and Latino men in the city, Fulton, who is also an active member of the Trayvon Martin Foundation, is focused on juvenile justice, health, education, and employment.


    Instead of harassing Zimmerman or seeking to ban guns, Americans should be focused on solving this national tragedy - that almost 50% of deaths among young black men ages 15-24 are due to murder. For whites males in the same age groups it's less than 9%. Looking at the FBI homicide tables, it's black on black murders, not cross racial.
    https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/dvs/LCWK1_2015.pdf
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    https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u....f_vicitm_by_race_and_sex_of_offender_2015.xls
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    He was a hero because of defending himself. If Martin had been white, Zimmerman would still be a hero as a pro-gun example. Ergo, for the RW, it's not about race. For you it is. Who's the real racist here? Hint; it's not me. :)
     
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    Not in anyone's book would Zimmerman have been a hero.. If Trayvon has been white it would have been every bit as stupid and indefensible.

    I am well aware of the murder rate among young black men... and I am a pretty good judge of character.. I don't think Trayvon was a thug in training.
     
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    If Martin had been white, the stupidity would have still been on him for attacking someone, sitting on them and pounding their head into the pavement.

    I'm a good judge of character too and I disagree. He was on the path to becoming a street punk. Divorced parents, drug use throughout HS, a HS vandal, a thief, schoolyard bully with a propensity for getting into fights and, according to his texts, both a racist and looking for a gun. If he lived, maybe he would have saved himself. No one can tell for sure, but he was certainly on a dark path.
     
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    Its obvious you don't know what you are talking about once again. Martin wasn't repeatedly punching him the face he was beating his head against the sidewalk.
     
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    You just proved your are about as good a judge of character as you are of interpreting the law.
     
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    But Martin did pick up an abrasion on his hand, probably by coming into contact with the concrete he was slamming ZImmerman's head into or by a punch. He did manage to break Zimmerman's nose.
     
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    Yes, didn't you watch the trial.
     
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    He was already at the perimeter street then at least get the facts straight.

    Nope he was waiting for the police who were imminently arriving.

    And you still can't get the facts straight or explain why Zimmerman KNOWING the police were imminently arriving had his name and phone number decided he would first murder Martin even though for all he knew the police were already watching.
     
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    Present the evidence that showed he hid in a bush.

    Talk about pulling things out if thin air.
     
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    So you admit the Obama/Holder DOJ was corrupt. Why would they want Zimmerman to get off?
     
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    He should have stayed in his truck and waited for the real police to come instead of stalking the kid. He caused this to happen and his idiotic behavior is responsible for Martin's death.
     
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    ...and he's on record not wanting to read anything about it:
     
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    The cops told him NOT to go after Martin. Then he escalated the situation unnecessarily. He should be in jail for at least 2nd degree murder.
     
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    Following a suspect is fine and legal for anyone to do. What Zimmerman did was not stalking not matter how many times LW anti-gun loons claim it was.

    https://codes.findlaw.com/fl/title-xlvi-crimes/fl-st-sect-784-048.html
    A person who willfully, maliciously, and repeatedly follows, harasses, or cyberstalks another person commits the offense of stalking, a misdemeanor of the first degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083 .

    IF Zimmerman had been stalking Martin like the anti-gunners claim, why wasn't he charged with it? http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2012/images/04/11/zimmerman.charges.pdf

    Martin is responsible for his own death by attacking Zimmerman. Clearly, Martin initially eluded Zimmerman then returned to confront him.
     
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    Not stalking, looking for a confrontation. Zimmerman was instructed by the cops to stay in his car. Why didn't he?
     
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    I am pro gun and not left anything. I just think that Zimmerman handled the situation horribly. He is a wannabe pu$$y who should have stayed in his truck and let the police handle the non situation. He escalated a Nothing into a homicide. He got away with it but he is a real jerk in my book and is ultimately responsible for the kids death. Martin was unarmed. How does a guy with a gun get his ass kicked by a 17 year old kid? I just hope this nit wit doesn't kill anyone else before they finally have to disarm him.
     
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    Sounds like a publicity stunt by the maker of this docudrama.
     
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    "Looking to investigate" is a more truthful statement. No, he wasn't. Please cite a quote where he was instructed "to stay in his car" and what law required him to do so.
     
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    By having his gun in his pocket (or holster) and letting the 17 year old young man blindside him. Zimmerman was, indeed, a wannabe cop and Martin was a wannabe gangsta. Both were idiots. Nonetheless, Martin eluded the "creepy ass cracker" and was safe until he decided to confront Zimmerman. It was Martin who escalated the situation.
     
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    See the part about following him and being told, we don't need you to do that.

    He took it on himself to seek confrontation and killed a kid who was living there.
     
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    Nah.. Its classic Zimmerman. He treated his mother the same way.
     
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    The "documentary" is highly biased and revisionist, which is to be expected since it was produced by "Sybrina Fulton, Tracy Martin, Jay-Z, Chachi Senior, Michael Gasparro, Jenner Furst, Julia Willoughby Nason, and Nick Sandow." It garnered a low 3.5 stars on IMDB. Hollywood types rate it much higher, of course.


    https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6719962/

    This review sums it up very nicely: "From the first minute it is clear that authors of this show try to ignore all the facts that came out during the trial, to paint a very emotional and inaccurate picture of Trayvon. They want to change public opinion completely, now that the case is no longer discussed online. I can still remember very clearly how crazy the attempts to skew reality were even back then. For those that are interested in objective truth, there are much better sources than this. This is just an attempt to cash in on a tragedy."
     
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