German Newspaper Goes After China

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  1. Paul7

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    https://www.spectator.co.uk/article...e-world-german-tabloid-goes-to-war-with-china

    Once again, leave it to the foreign press to tell the truth. If only our domestic fake news crowd could screw up the honesty to write something like this. We need a lot more people who aren't intimidated by China.

    "You shut down every newspaper and website that is critical of your rule, but not the stalls where bat soup is sold. You are not only monitoring your people, you are endangering them – and with them, the rest of the world...China enriches itself with the inventions of others, instead of inventing on its own. The reason China does not innovate and invent is that you don't let the young people in your country think freely. China’s greatest export hit (that nobody wanted to have, but which has nevertheless gone around the world) is Corona."
     
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    I started talking about China's liability a month ago. ;)

    Glad you are finally getting caught up on month-old news.
     
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    Fake News. Reagan saved Harley Davidson with tariffs. The Topic is the Lying Outlaw Government of China

    GERMAN INTELLIGENCE: China’s Xi Asked the WHO to Cover Up Coronavirus.

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    Trump was right again.

    If you’ve lost a loved one to coronavirus, if you’re suffering from it yourself, or you’ve lost a job to this virus, you have China to thank for getting the World Health Organization to delay the world’s response.

    Taiwan News reports German intelligence has determined the awful truth.

    During a conversation on Jan. 21, (China’s communist dictator) Xi reportedly asked (WHO Director-General) Tedros not to announce that the virus could be transmitted between humans and to delay any declaration of a coronavirus pandemic.​

    It took until the end of January before the WHO declared that the coronavirus outbreak needed to receive international attention. Because of China’s delay, the world wasted four to six weeks it could have used better to counter the virus from spreading, the BND concluded.​

    That four to six weeks of delay allowed the virus to spread worldwide. The superspreader event at the European soccer game in Italy in February falls into that window. That pushed the outbreak into both Spain and Italy. The outbreak in New York also falls into that window. The world’s economy is on the brink of collapse because of Lying Outlaw China’s behavior.

    The WHO did not have to comply with Xi’s request. Why did it? Tedros must be hauled in and questioned.
     
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    He's never wrong! Finally, a President with a flawless instinct.

    “China has been working very hard to contain the Coronavirus. The United States greatly appreciates their efforts and transparency. It will all work out well. In particular, on behalf of the American People, I want to thank President Xi!”

    “Just had a long and very good conversation by phone with President Xi of China. He is strong, sharp and powerfully focused on leading the counterattack on the Coronavirus. He feels they are doing very well, even building hospitals in a matter of only days … Great discipline is taking place in China, as President Xi strongly leads what will be a very successful operation. We are working closely with China to help!"

    Trump via Twitter

    “China seems to be making tremendous progress. Their numbers are way down. … I think our relationship with China is very good. We just did a big trade deal. We’re starting on another trade deal with China — a very big one. And we’ve been working very closely. They’ve been talking to our people, we’ve been talking to their people, having to do with the virus.”

    Feb. 29, Coronavirus Task Force press conference:

    https://www.politico.com/news/2020/04/15/trump-china-coronavirus-188736


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    Given his appalling handling of the pandemic, finding a scapegoat is the Orange Clown's priority.

    Why not make it look like China manufactured the virus?

    The Trumpsters will believe it immediately.

    They believe everything Trump says, even when he says one thing and then the opposite some time later.


     
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    If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck.....
     
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    What a ridiculous comment. What would you expect the leader of the free world to say? What did he say behind closed doors?
    Guaranteed it is safe to say if our president had publically condemned China from the get-go, some of our Canadian posters would have been among the first to reach across the border and complain that Trump is racist for "attacking" the Chinese.

    As for the Chinese manufacturing the virus? Do you know they didn't or do you think a bat species walked into a wet market in Wuhan, a city with a lab built for creating and the study of viruses, well over 1000 miles away? Either way, billions of people on this planet want to know.
     
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    You don't know that.

    And seriously, we don't give a ****.

    When Trump congratulates Xi on Twitter, we expect the message to be sincere.

    The fascinating thing about Trumpsters is that even when Trump totally changes his mind, you follow him blindly.

    You defend his inconsistency as if it were proof of his genius.

    This story about the Chinese making viruses is a pure invention by Trump to find out who is responsible for his incompetence.

    No serious scientist has embarked on this umpteenth conspiracy theory.
     
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    Interesting that you think people should not be allowed to change their minds and even more interesting than you think you should be informed of exactly what is going on in the White House.

    As for where the Chinese virus was manufactured or escaped from, you have your opinion and I have mine. At this point in time neither of us has the complete answer.

    The German tabloid nailed it perfectly and I will repeat it here for you and others to re-read and reflect upon,

    "You shut down every newspaper and website that is critical of your rule, but not the stalls where bat soup is sold. You are not only monitoring your people, you are endangering them – and with them, the rest of the world...China enriches itself with the inventions of others, instead of inventing on its own. The reason China does not innovate and invent is that you don't let the young people in your country think freely. China’s greatest export hit (that nobody wanted to have, but which has nevertheless gone around the world) is Corona."
     
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    Here's the rest of the article, editor Mr Reichelt continues:
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    "Would you like to explain this to the grieving widows, daughters, sons, husbands, parents of Corona victims all over the world?
    Your embassy tells me that I am not living up to the "traditional friendship of our peoples.” I suppose you consider it a great "friendship" when you now generously send masks around the world. This isn’t friendship, I would call it imperialism hidden behind a smile – a Trojan Horse.
    You plan to strengthen China through a plague that you exported. You will not succeed. Corona will be your political end, sooner or later."
     
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    Trump received a dozen briefings on the dangers of the pandemic in January and February.

    At the same time, he praised Xi's work.

    The story of how the virus was manufactured in a laboratory in Wuhan came out ironically when it got out of control in the US and Trump's approval rate dropped.

    No self-respecting scientist agreed with this ridiculous thesis.
     
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    Fauci was saying in late Feb. that the US virus threat was minimal and only hypothetical. He was supposed to listed to the experts, right?

    It may not have been known then how badly China lied about this. Trump often praises adversaries in public, see 'The Art of the Deal'.

    Lots of scientists think there is something to the lab theory. The bat one doesn't make sense.
     
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    In a Feb. 29 interview, Fauci said that “right now at this moment” the risk was “low” and there was “no need” for people “to change anything that you’re doing on a day-by-day basis.” But he added that “this could change,” that people needed to be wary of “community spread,” and that it could develop into a “major outbreak.”

    https://www.factcheck.org/2020/04/trump-misquotes-fauci-on-coronavirus-threat/


    I don't care what it says in The Art Of The Deal. To me it's as credible as Trump University...

    Trump has no strategy other than reacting awkwardly to situations that are beyond his comprehension and of which he understands very little.

    No.
     
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    If must be a North American continent thing because Canada, who had just as much information as our president, waited until Mid March to close their borders.
     
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    Why would Trump know more than Fauci?

    Others disagree with you, it was #1 on the NYT best seller list and sold over 1,000,000 copies.

    You mean Fauci. Face it, nobody really understands this virus, all the 'experts' have been wrong.
     
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    You've come to justify Trump's lack of knowledge?

    All he has to do is listen to the scientists and get the information out to the people in clear, short, accurate press conferences.

    Just that, he's incapable of doing.

    Wow !

    The Twilight Saga sold 120 times as many copies.

    So it's 120 times better the Art of the Deal...

    You're excusing Trump for not knowing as much as Fauci, and you call him a fake scientist.

    Is it possible to be more inconsistent?
     
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    Sorry I overestimated your comprehension. Fauci has changed his opinion on several issues.
     
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    Not at all.

    And since when is that a criterion of competence for you Trumpsters since Trump changes his mind almost daily, with your total approval ?
     
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    lol i wonder which scientist told him to inject bleach and clorox into human body as disinfectant. also using UV light in human bodies, what ppl suppose to do, swallow a light bulb :lol:. when the outbreak start in china in Jan, which scientist advise him, "it will go away by april"
     
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    Free Markets are mostly a microeconomic, not a macroeconomic principle(IE: Private property rights are built on a microeconomic level), the trade of corporations and stocks is a macroeconomic phenemon. So, no, the conservatives did not advocate free trade. That was a Liberal baby through and through(namely the Clinton and the neo-Liberal Bush administrations.)

    It's plainly revisionist history(and not accurate) to blame the situation on traditional conservatives, especially since the House has firmly been in Dem hands for like the past 40-50 years.
     
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    I'm glad Germany is standing up to the Lying Outlaw government of China.

    China Calls for Global Media Takeover by ‘Belt and Road News Network’.

    The Chinese Communist Party (CCP) newsletter People’s Daily on Monday demanded a controlling role for China’s Belt and Road News Network (BRNN) over all global media, ostensibly to counteract “racially discriminatory messages” from certain Western nations that refuse to stop asking questions about where the Wuhan coronavirus came from.

    The world’s worst censors invoked the importance of “truth” as the reason they should be allowed to censor everyone else’s news:

    The media should faithfully record history and respect facts in news reporting. Truth is basic for news. At this crucial moment, media practitioners must work in a down-to-earth way, learn the real situations, and report the truth in the most accurate, objective and comprehensive manner.

    Unfortunately, some irresponsible Western media outlets spread and even fabricated rumors, which undermined international cooperation to fight the virus.

    China’s incredible sacrifice in fighting COVID-19 has made a huge contribution to the world, winning high recognition from the international community. It’s of great significance to provide objective and accurate coverage of Chinese anti-epidemic achievements when rumors abound. The media should be aware that when they share China’s successful anti-epidemic experiences with the world, they are injecting positive energy into protecting the lives and health of the people across the world.​
     
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    Communist China is consistently ranked one of the worst places on Earth for press freedom and rarely scores much better than its feral client state North Korea. Germany’s Deutsche Welle (DW) was among many media organizations in 2020 to express concerns that Beijing already has far too much influence over global news coverage, and it is aggressively interested in acquiring more.

    “In the case of China, the coronavirus outbreak has revealed the most important teaching of this crisis, which is censorship in China doesn’t only concern the Chinese people. It is also a threat to anyone on Earth,” Reporters Without Borders (RSF) bureau chief Cedric Alviani told DW.
     
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    You're wrong, see Fauci's 2/29 statement. He's also changed his mind on face masks.

    As circumstances change, yes. Does it bother you Biden changed his mind on the wisdom of Trump's China travel restrictions?
     
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    UV effective against the virus here: https://news.columbia.edu/ultraviolet-technology-virus-covid-19-UV-light

    The bleach comment was sarcasm.
     

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