get your vaccination and your booster shot

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  1. James California

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    ~ Andy Cuomo himself ... { some call him "Killer Cuomo" }
     
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    It’s harmless, according to Baldwin
     
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    It's hyperbole like that which will cause some of the legitimate stuff you say to be ignored. And before you accuse me, I'm neither a democrat or republican and I see no legitimacy in a two party system either. So making it political is nonsense. You say it's a worldwide pandemic and therefore how does a former president and his followers get the blame for that, or it's origins, or the fact that many are vaccinated including Trump himself who initiated "warp speed".

    I just don't get the mental gymnastics, or olympic level ones, that you have to go through to pinpoint inaccurately a culprit like that. Leave the politics alone would be my position when talking about failures or successes in this pandemic. The fact remains that even in very highly vaccinated countries, the spread continues. It's basically going to end when enough people have got it, got vaccinated, or died from it, like was said from the very beginning.
     
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    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    That was what Trump wanted, that's true, and it's what's happening in the third world since they can't afford the vaccine. We're only now beginning to give it to them.
     
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    No booster for me. I finally concluded that taking a vaccine for a strain of the virus that was replaced by newer strains about a year ago makes no common sense. I listened to the government lie to me about covid for two years. I think the safe bet is to do the opposite of what government wants. Government isn't into health. It is into power and control.
     
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    What I am waiting for is statistical analysis of people who die or become disabled due to vaccinated related health issues over the next decade. There is already 1.2 million people who have documented their health issues directly after getting vaxxed. Eventually, the truth will come out. I am sure the Vax helps many, but with no long term tests, who knows how the vax will change peoples bodies long term. Already, there are many cases of adverse affects which will keep growing. Not to mention the 250 professional athletes who have died, many while playing in pro games, after getting the vax.
     
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    You forgot extorting money!
    I didnt take any vaccines at any time, my doc who got jabbed was laid up for 2 weeks andwas shocked how fast I recovered, (2 days) and Im old as dirt.

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    :worry: ~ Don't be so sure .
     
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    I work for a government contractor and held out through all sorts of threats on my job. They even had the Dec. 23rd deadline in set in stone until they delayed til Jan. 6th like 2 days before, I was ready to lose my job but was considering getting the jab. If I didn't lose one uncle to a stroke a month after the jab and another had heart problems immediately after the jab and had to put a pacemaker in, then I probably might have gotten the jab. They were 100% healthy before the jab. Then again, I don't like being forced to do something where all liability is on me if something goes wrong. And, I haven't talked much on any boards about my friend, a pre-natal nurse, with what she is seeing in hospitals. Doctors are threatened to lose their jobs if they do not follow a narative of pro vax.
     
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    ~ You are not the only one. Those who actually see " behind the scene " are aware months ago of this ridiculous fiasco called Covid •19 Pandemic . One obvious indication is Big Pharma request 75 years delay of trial/study information disclosure. Information starting to release shows a host of reported side-effects — mostly clotting issues — that were kept from the public. Another is totally useless masks and bandannas made mandatory .
    Some innocently remain trusting and naive, others ignore out of ignorance. Both are dangerous.
     
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    Sadly, too many people can tell stories similar to yours. Perfectly healthy people becoming maimed or killed by the clot shots. Thanks for speaking out.
     
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    They didn't request a delay of 75 years, and it wasn't "Big Pharma", it was the FDA, which pointed out - by way of illustrating the enormity of the task - that the FOIA request for some 450,000 pages would take 75 years to fulfil at the usual court-allowed rate of 500 pages a month.
     
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    FDA serves the interest of the pharmaceutical industry.

    The FDA is what some call a "captured agency". Rather like the FAA
     
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    I had only heard of any kid dying from Heart attack maybe once or twice a decade. Now, we have had dozens. How unique is that?
     
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    ~ Big Pharma is the FDA . Who makes the initial request is irrelevant - but it is normally the FDA that does so .
    Much information statistics are routinely made available for review during the course of a clinical trial - for obvious reasons. Drug companies are taking the steps to share more data on their own initiative . NIH has made efforts on increasing the reporting of public summaries of clinical trial results and is increasing support for the posting of these summaries. NIH can withhold funds from grantees who do not comply .
    75 years is a ridiculous request - likely why a judge refused . Has this ever been done before ..?
    The development of Covid-19 vaccines are very unusual and suspicious to anyone actually paying attention.
     
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    "Big Pharma" ordinarily means the pharmaceutical industry - manufacturers - not the FDA. If you prefer your own definition, so be it.

    The FOIA request is submitted to the FDA, and again, the FDA did not request a "delay" in disclosure. Disclosure would begin immediately, with the FOIA being completed and fulfilled over time. The FDA pointed out to the court that due to the enormity of the request (450,000 pages), limited resources, other FOIA requests, and if processing at the usual court-approved rate of 500 pages a month, this time would amount to some 75 years. The court recognized that the request was indeed "unduly burdensome" but output must nonetheless be considerably greater and thus faster. In short, the FDA was not seeking to keep the information under wraps, let alone completely so for 75 years. It was simply detailing logistics, per usual rates of output.

    Information on clinical trial results conducted by pharma cos is not routinely made publicly available during trials. It is proprietary information, disclosed to the Data Safety Monitoring Board, which operates under strict confidentiality.
     
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    It is the result of Fauci, Pharma, Gates and the rest delivering bio weapons to a frightened populace. Yes, those weapons were delivered by Warp Speed by a CEO who does not know right from wrong.
     
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    Over 25 countries have less than 15% of their population vaccinated. Where are the millions of dead people?

    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

    Burundi: population 11 million Vaccination rate: 0.1%

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    Congo: population 89 million Vaccination rate: 0.3%

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    Haiti: Population 11 million Vaccination rate: 0.9%

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    Chad: Population 16 million Vaccination rate: 0.9%

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    Yemen: population 29 million Vaccination rate: 1.3%

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    Ethiopia: Population 115 million Vaccination rate: 1.6%

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    Find the rest by looking here:

    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

    South Sudan: Population 11 million Vaccination rate: 2.5%

    Cameroon: population 26 million: Vaccination rate: 2.6%

    Papua New Guinea: Population 9 million Vaccination rate: 2.7%

    Nigeria: Population 206 million Vaccination rate: 2.7%

    Madagascar: Population 26 million. Vaccination rate: 3.4%

    Tanzania: Population 59 million. Vaccination rate: 3%

    Mali: population: 20 million Vaccination rate: 3.6%

    Burkina Faso: population 20 million Vaccination rate: 3.8%

    Malawi: population 19 million Vaccination rate: 4.2%

    Niger: population 24 million Vaccination rate: 4.4%

    Sudan: Population 43 million Vaccination rate: 4.6%

    Uganda: population 45 million Vaccination rate: 5%

    Senegal: population 16 million Vaccination rate: 6.2%

    Algeria: Population 43 million Vaccination rate: 14%

    Kenya: Population 53 million Vaccination rate: 14%

    Zambia: Population 18 million Vaccination rate: 10%

    These countries have a combined population of over 900 million people and over 90% of them are unvaccinated. Where are the mass graves? Most of them didn't even lockdown or have social distancing or mask mandates.

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    Why did the virus skip all these countries?

    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
     
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    Did it take 75 years to compile these 450,000 pages, curiously?

    I mean, just to highlight what a ridiculous argument you make.
     
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    People in poor countries have to deal with the same plethora of horrors that that were humanity's lot in the 19th century and before. They generally have immune systems that would shrug off being run over by a Mack Truck. They shrug off Covid as a minor bother.
     
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    I had not planned to get boosted but was in a situation where I was in and out of a nursing home that was ground zero locally so I took it. Also had COVID afterwards. Not taking #4 because # 3 made me pretty effing sick and some doctors are saying not to unless you are immune compromised because there could be another strain we need to save the 4th booster for.
     
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    I have a theory, and it fits with yours. They've been through more, so they have less fear and the move more, like with their feet and arms, so stuff works better in their body.

    I think my theory is scientific.

    Doctors in this thread, prove me wrong.
     
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    I said fck the booster after getting omicron while being double jabbed, and not too long after. Why get a booster?

    My doctor "You should get it."
    Me "But I had Omicron a few months ago, and that was a few months after dose 2! I think I'm good now!"
    Doctor "You should still get it!"
    Me "Why? I've had Omicron and even public health officials are saying it's like the best vaccine ever!"
    Doctor "Yeah, but you should still get it!"

    Science, I guess :confusion:
     
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    If I had had omicron first I wouldn't have gotten boosted, but I got it afterwards when a symptomatic sick person came to an office holiday dinner and sat near me. It was the one and only time I have eaten out since this thing started to boot and left my arse sitting alone in quarantine for Christmas. FML. Anyway, not getting #4 unless there is a new formulary for a new strain, Still wearing my mask though and avoiding people as I can.

    The pharmacist and my doctor both alleged that the reason the third shot made me so sick was proof that the first two shots were doing their thing, meaning shot #3 triggered the immune reaction that #1 and #2 created. Not sure I buy that but whatever. Can't unring a bell.
     
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    Neither agency belongs in federal government in the first place.
     
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