Good Job Brownie!!! Bush's Katrina Legacy

Well Conservatives of all stripes, didn't we learn the hard way via Katrina how NOT to respond to a hurricane?

At least this time around, we aren't being made to look like a third world nation for all the world to be astounded to be seen as. I guess FEMA also learned it's lesson? I'd say so.

Good job Brownie and all that happy hoo hoo!!!!

 

Bush and FEMA had a lot of failures with Katrina, but the 'third world nation' look you're referring to should be laid at the feet of New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin. I live about 60 miles east of New Orleans and we got the worst of the hurricane. I am very familiar with what happened in this area.

I would say you're painting with too large a brush, but you seem to have brought out the spray can.

 

Umm let's see.

Who was responsible for storm preparedness prior too hurricane Katrina, oh ya, that would be Democrat Ray Negan, former Mayor of New Orleans, And Democrat Governor Kathleen Blanco.

But hey, if you want too turn hurricane Irene into a partisan (*)(*)(*)(*)fest, let's roll.

 

What's really amazing is that Nagin got re-elected the following year. Nothing like having Bush to blame things on. Also, nothing like the blind loyalty of blacks to keep electing failed black politicians. Didn't matter how many deaths Nagin caused. Being black was reason enough to vote him back in.

 

NO and the Feds ignored the obvious for many decades, never doing enuf to protect the area, this is one where everybody failed.

 

That's a red herring. Do you not think both Nagin and Blanco knew about Mr.GO and the fact that New Orleans is 10 ft. below sea level? The safety of the people was their responsibility, no getting around that.

 

Well it certainly seems to me that this time around, everyone is very organized and trying to prevent loss of life and property. With Katrina no one gave a (*)(*)(*)(*), it seemed. Even Bush;s mother said the folks in NO were better off after than before Katrina,

 

Again, if no one cared, it would be the Mayor of New Orleans. He crowded thousands into the Superdome with no protection, no supplies and no way out.

New Orleans was on the left side of the storm, which is the side associated with less damage. The damage in N.O. was due to flooding, mainly caused by decades of Army Corps Of Engineers projects.

Katrina was a bad storm, but N.O. didn't suffer the full effects of it. It is a city 10 ft. BELOW sea level, though. The full effect was felt on the Mississippi Coast. I know, I was there and rode the storm out about 1/3 mile from the beach. I also rode out Hurricane Camille in 1969. That one had 190 MPH sustained winds, with gusts well over 200 mph.

Irene shouldn't be too bad for most folks in the Northeast, except for those in flood prone areas and some of the islands and capes. Good luck to everyone there.

I have NO idea what Mrs. Bush meant by her statement.

Here's a video of some of the MS Coast damage. You can also google 'Katrina damage Mississippi Coast' and search images to see some of the worst from that storm.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bj6NzoZwYoA&feature=related"]Personal Photo Slideshow - Aftermath Of Katrina - Biloxi, MS - YouTube[/ame]

 

All you have to do is introduce facts to shoot down a thread based on partisan hackery. And, this is what happened to this thread.

Good stuff.

 

Yep....the truth don't care what side of the fence you're on.

 

still spinning. what is it? Can't stand to admit that the Presidebt is on the golf course while all hell is braking loose?

 

What is it that you don't seem to understand about the fact that this is about STATE AND LOCAL GOVERNMENTS!!!!!! The people in LA have their majors and governors to thank the most for their Katrina FAILURE! Take a look at how a real governor handles a situation like this....look to GOVERNOR CHRISTIE!!

 

Wow,
I can remember Bush on TV sending a clear warning days before Katrina hit urging people of NO to **** out the city.And Bush called Blanco God knows how many times asking if things were ok and they needed help.
Nagin was the idiot for asking for "voluntary" evacuations ,when they shouldve been mandatory.Bush called Blanco asking her if Nagin had given a mandatory order to evacuate NO,she said he hasnt,Bush told Blanco he has to order the people to leave because he was briefed that it was going to be a terrible storm.By the way,the Posse Comitatus Act of 1878 prohibits federal troops to act as law enforcement,unless a area is in a state of insurrection.The President cannot usurp the authority of the Governor of a state.To blame Bush,no matter if you like him or hate him would be unfair since the President cannot just simply bypass the Governor and the mayor.Blanco and Nagin shouldve ordered a mandatory evacuation,instead of letting all those school buses get submerged.
Anyone that has ever deployed for a relief effort knows its not a fast process to load tons of supplies and aid.And it didnt help either when the people,even the police started shooting at each other and become lawless.

 

This garbage has been so discredited it is pitiful to see it spewed out again.

And in particular, Bush never called nobody!!

Blanco declared emergency and requested aid on the Friday BEFORE the hurricane. She did it again Saturday. BUSH DECLARED EMERGENCY authorized FEMA on Saturday before the hurricane!

It is simply that FEMA under Bush's buddy whose experience was judging horse shows for millionaires never got anything done.

This is an interesting timeline to read.

http://thinkprogress.org/report/katrina-timeline/

 

Hahaha...."think progress" get serious would you! What is it exactly that Obama is doing that makes you think he's such a hero?

 

Maybe the brilliant Obama can come up with a plan to save New Orleans next time a major hurricane hits. Since they're STILL under sea-level, that would be quite a fete.

Mayor Bloomberg stated today that emergency policies were put into effect in 2006. At least Bush had the capacity to learn from past mistakes. With a $4 trillion debt under his belt, Obama's still spending like a drunken sailor.

 

Dutch engineering figured out what to do in 1952 to hold the North Sea back.

Being prepared and staging emergency services early is a good thing....

 

"Dutch engineering"...blah blah blah....think of some way quick to not give bush ANY appreciation or credit for ANYTHING...it really is transparent ya know.

 

There's major getting around it, I believe the sea level was roughly the same for generations if not centuries, and thus not soley the fault of those on duty at the moment. Thousands of City/Fed officials whistled past the dykes over the years, knowing someday it'd be disastrous.

Were you the tattletale of the classroom?

 

No one is criticizing Bush for "losing New Orleans".

He is being criticized for bedridden old people who we KNOW where they were drowning inch by inch for a week after the hurricane.

For people sitting on rooftops on news video for a week after the hurricane, dying and disappearing one after another!

For people in a KNOWN place of refuge, the Convention Center which FEMA ITSELF was instructing people to evacuate to, not even getting bottles of WATER from FEMA.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_government_response_to_Hurricane_Katrina

 

The Louisiana coastline and the area below New Orleans has been losing many sq. miles of marshland per year to the Gulf due to Corps of Engineers projects, making New Orleans more flood prone. The job of those on duty at the moment (state and local officials) was to ensure the people's safety before the storm. Though FEMA and the Fed response in general blew it it many ways, their duty came after the storm and those in N.O. knew it.

What happened there was no surprise as it had been foreseen for years with all the levees and Lake Ponchartrain surrounding the city. It was only a matter of when. Well, 2005 was when and Nagin failed miserably in his duties. There wouldn't have been all the shocking scenes had he done his job before the storm. FEMA and the Federal govt was left with a helluva mess due to that. Don't forget, too, that the actual hurricane hit the MS Coast and that was something else to contend with.

 

Only a heartless right-winger would think of calling more poor people drowning a party.

 

Complete bull(*)(*)(*)(*).
The only thing Bush did was to fly over the aftermath for an idiotic photo-op that backfired as badly as his 'mission accomplished' photo-op.

 

In other words, you are saying that the Bush White house would not have had the OPPORTUNITY to fail if the local authorities had planned everything correctly in advance.

But I am speaking of the Feds DUTY AFTER the storm!

We, somehow, could deliver supplies to cities in other parts of the world TWO DAYS after a monstrous tsunami, but Bush couldn't deliver water bottles to a Convention center in New Orleans. Bush couldn't pick up people we could see on the nightly news on roof tops for a week after the storm. Bush stopped doctors who were rushing to the area from treating people dying in refugee centers.

Complain about Obama all you want AFTER he screws up in leaving people to die. I will join you.

 

Buses sat and never left ?? I think a lot of lazy people sat a waited for government to do it for them , When the feds did not take action what stopped Nagin and Blanco , idiots sit there and die . I would of taken the bus and drove out christ how hard can it be !!