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    National polls have tightened significantly from Hillary leading by double digits just a month ago to being currently ahead by 4-5 points at best. Trump is leading in Ohio and neck in neck in states like PA which aren't supposed to be in play. And the best is yet to come, republicans will rally around him before the convention boosting him to a tie in National poll and the convention will give him a big bounce among independents and Reagan democrats.... You don't realistically expect Hillary to get a post convention bounce, do you?
     
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    Trump is not leading in ohio and is not tied in PA. You are seeing confirmation bias. You see what you WANT to see not what the scientific average of the polls say. You are just cheerleading. It didn't work for Romney when Rove said he was way out in front either. You should be very worried about the huge bump Clinton gets when Sanders drops out.
     
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    This might freak some people out too...

    Sanders leaves door open to being Clinton's VP
    http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/06/politics/bernie-sanders-hillary-clinton-vice-president/index.html
     
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    No he won't. He has no idea what he's talking about and he's flip-flopping like a fish.

    Which means that 66-75% of them will.

    Clinton is leading by the largest margins she's had since September 2015.
     
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    How is he not leading in Ohio if the only current poll has him 4 points ahead, outside the margin of error. And you're correct about PA of course, Trump is whopping 1 point behind in the blue state of Pennsylvania which hasn't voted republican in decades.

    PS Sanders dropping out won't affect Trump vs Hillary polls where Sanders isn't a factor.
     
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    Holy cow if you base what you believe off of one poll then you are in for a world of hurt when you find out the truth. LOL
     
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    Translated: I am very scared



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    Hey second place is the first loser....quite an achievement for Mr Trump. LOL
     
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    FiveThirtyEight gives these odds for chances of winning:

    Ohio: Kasich 86% Trump 14%
    Pennsylvania Trump 99% Kasich 1%

    Weighted Polling average:

    Ohio Kasich 37.6% Trump 34.3%
    Pennsylvania Trump 47% Kasich 20.9%
     
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    Yes. I agree Kaisch will not be president. LOL
     
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    That is the dem narrative for Trump but the narrative has been wrong pretty much the whole time.
     
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    No that is not narrative. They are the FACTS. LOL
     
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    Translated: My fear is bordering on panic
     
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    His position on issues, on jobs, immigration, trade deals, political alliances is what got him the nomination. Don't let establishment pundits and talking heads tell you otherwise, the brawl was just a sideshow.

    She needs 90-95% of Sanders supporters to have a chance November

    She is behind by 2 points in one poll, ahead by 4 points in another poll, behind or even in 3 battleground state polls.
     
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    Quinnipiac has Trump by 4 in Ohio and Clinton by 1 in Pennsylvania. Margin of Error is +/- 3 for both so statistically Trump is up in Ohio and tied with Clinton in PA.
     
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    And up by 7 points in another poll, and 13 points in another poll and 7 points again in another poll .....etc
     
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    Sure thing sweetpea, like all those other failed facts before.
     
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    There has been one poll in Ohio lately and one poll 2 weeks ago, both pointing to Trump's surge. Combined with tightening national polls and dead heat in PA and FL, the picture is clear, you should be scared.
     
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    Very true.... 13-points is clearly an outlier given all other polls, including the three from OH, PA and FL, so her real margin is 5 points or so, it's tightening as we speak and they will be tied by convention.
     
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    The only thing scary about trump is his haircut. The vast majority of Sanders supporters will vote for Clinton. When Sanders openly endorses Clinton the swell of support will be overwhelming. Trump will come out of the convention battered and bruised by all the division in the GOP. The democrats have never been more united. This is not your year boys.
     
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    Possibly, but Guccifer did say he hacked her emails.
     
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    Hillary is an absolute awful candidate. She is about as approachable as a porcupine.
     

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