Grand Jury Charges 1 in Breonna Taylor Case

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  1. 9royhobbs

    9royhobbs Well-Known Member

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    Pretty much all of it.
    What could they have done different? How about not knocking down the door?! The judge issued a "no knock" warrant along with 2 other warrant that were to be checked at the same time (only one was). Taylor's was considered a "soft" target with little or no thoughts of turning up anything so the police changed it from a "no knock" so given those circumstances, why was it necessary to knock the door down? The police took a lot of time to get their ducks in a row before they made any announcement. You buy it, I don't. This kind of thing happens way too much.
     
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    Ok, so you didn't read the article.
     
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    I just want to comment here on something that is getting a good bit of argument but, w/ regards to the overall debate over this event, is essentially just treading water. YES, police initially got a no-knock warrant for Miss Taylor's residence but later decided to knock & announce themselves (believing that she was alone & unarmed). YES, the AG has confirmed that ONE of the neighboring apartment's resident(s) has confirmed hearing the police announce themselves. Yet also, there were many other residents in the complex who did not hear this; and according to the Police Academy trainer of these officers, the proper way police are taught to announce themselves is to SHOUT, "Police!" to the extent that, "everyone in the apartment complex," should have heard their announcing themselves (see my post #95 for link). My point here is not to decry fault of the police; only to suggest that it is perfectly credible that, though the police did announce themselves so that 1 particular neighbor heard them (perhaps someone who was already awake & near his door at the time), the police's announcement was not clear to Miss Taylor & her boyfriend, down the hall, perhaps behind a closed door, in her bedroom (even if they were awake).
     
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    Inadmissible in what? It's from the police report a police report is admissible evidence. She was associated with drug dealers and a homicide and her name was on the warrant. You associate yourself with those persons and that scene and violence will follow.
     
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    They didn't change the warrant they simply decided it best to knock and announce themselves and yes the guy who was sleeping there fired at them.

    How can someone on this board provide you secret grand jury testimony? Are you refuting the DA who stated that a witnesses testified to what drluggit posted? What is your evidence that refutes the DA and grand jury?

    And your basis for declaring the grand jury is wrong is what exactly?
     
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    So you've got your own narrative but it is based on your speculation and not the facts in evidence which you dispel because ... police bad. Isn't there even a slight possibility that the facts presented by the Kentucky AG might be true?
     
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    No its clear you didnt
     
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    Inadmissible in that it's not factual. "From a police report" means nothing. Your blogger could (and probably did) change anything they wanted.
     
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    And here we are.
    I didn't disagree with that. I disagree that he shot through the door.
     
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    That's correct and I find it baffling that so many others have a different set of facts.
     
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    What do you know better than the forensic experts and the evidence?
     
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    I'm sorry, what facts did I get wrong to make you think I have my own narrative?
     
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    Yes it is factual from a police report, did you not listen to the DA press conference? It's why her name was on the warrant. She was associated with known drug dealers and even a homicide.
     
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    What have you gotten right in your narrative is the better question.
     
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    "they all"? The police have one witness. There are 11 that disagree.
    Lmao objectively incorrect.

    fake news is the status quo these days


    That he and others testified that they didn't hear

    That he and others testified that they didn't hear
    1 person said that.


    And what is your proof that I am other than the "I know you are but what am I" defense. My proof is in the article Prof. Peabody linked to
    No, its not lol. You are seeing what you want to see, not the reality.

    From the article:
    Court records show that Louisville police obtained a warrant with a no-knock provision for Taylor's apartment approved by Jefferson Circuit Judge Mary Shaw, though police and prosecutors have said that the officers knocked and announced themselves before breaking down the door.

    Kenneth Walker, has said he heard pounding at the door, but he did not hear anyone announce they were police.He fired one shot at 12:43 a.m., according to his arrest citation, thinking intruders were breaking in.

    According to officials, Walker's bullet struck Sgt. Jonathan Mattingly in the leg, requiring surgery. Mattingly and officers Brett Hankison and Myles Cosgrove returned fire, shooting more than 20 rounds.


    Taylor was struck multiple times and died in the hallway of her apartment, attorneys for her family say. The coroner's office listed her time of death as 12:48 a.m.

    Walker wasn't wounded.

    Those same attorneys say neighbors did not hear police announce themselves before entering.

    A subsequent search of Taylor's apartment found no drugs.

    Want to try again? You can also refer to posting 228
     
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    I don't and didn't claim I do. You haven't showed where you're getting your information.
     
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    Pretty much everything. You on the other hand......
     
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    As I have already cited and as did the DA.
     
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    Like what and be specific.
     
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    I'm a little late to the subject.....but I have heard bits and pieces that Mrs. Taylor had associated herself with this "crack" ring and their was reasonable cause to target her in the warrant. Something about her house was where they kept the money? Haven't been able to pin it down but the media always makes these "victims" out as Saints and I find it to be far more the exception than the rule!
     
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    usually 48 hours
     
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    huh? my brother....**** you
     
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    To the best of my knowledge, the person that the police investigation was focused on was Miss Taylor's former boyfriend, who police were unaware was no longer in a relationship w/ Miss Taylor. I see that as a reasonable type of mistake. However, since no drugs were discovered in her apartment, it seems a completely unsupported allegation that Miss Taylor was still in any way involved (&, of course, an unproven allegation that she ever was, other than to have been the girlfriend of someone who was suspected of drug offenses).

    But even if one accepted the speculation that she had, at one time, knowingly participated in some way in some (still unproven) illegal activity, are posters here actually using that rationale to put forward the idea that, "she got what she deserved?" Really? Do those who feel that way have the same unfettered trust in govt. and law-enforcement allegations about, for example, raids on the compounds of people who are resisting paying the government for cattle-grazing rights, or who are stockpiling weapons (for the good American belief in 2nd Amendment rights)? Forgive me for getting the impression that there may be not only some stereotyping going on, but judgements about the severity of lethal police incidents based upon those stereotypes. Ultimately, there either ARE expected norms & standards or there are NONE. And to advocate for inconsistency on principles as important as privacy, unreasonable search & seizure, limits on police powers & discretion, and the inalienable right to life, is no different than encouraging anarchy.
     
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