Great Barrington Declaration and ending the ineffective lockdowns

https://gbdeclaration.org/

feel free to read the FAQ's as well as look to the number of medical professionals which support the concept

Next, Google the declaration and note the hit pieces from the leftist, agenda driven crowd.

Very interesting

 

I signed the declaration as a 'concerned citizen' last week.

You won't hear the MSM talking heads discussing this declaration, no.

It appears not many here at PF will be discussing it either. I know why.

 

signed

 

Please tell us why we here won't sign.

 

perhaps you do not cherish liberty or facts that go against what is spewed by your leftist heroes?

 

It appears that many humans take some perverse pleasure in being locked down. Is this a manifestation of the Stockholm Syndrome?

 

We are not at war with science.

 

The official narrative, which you deeply embrace, is very much at war with science and the scientific method. The official narrative mocks science and the scientific method, but you are well enough indoctrinated to not be able to grasp that.

 

It's called education.

I got basic college level training in methods, and studied the history and philosophy of science.

What you do is propaganda.

 

It's called indoctrination and regurgitation of official narrative talking points, like what Lester Holt and Scott Pelley do.

What you missed in your college level training was analytical thinking.

 

I guess the scientists and doctors who signed the declaration are clueless? is that your point? Do you honestly believe that every concerned signatory are buffoons? Do you really have an elitist attitude?

 

Yes.

No, the majority of specialists think they are wrong.

Scientists fight all the time. They also make mistakes all the time. "If we knew what we were doing, it wouldn't be called research." This is not as binary as the Right is making out to be. There is plenty of room for creative solutions. One Asian country used Big Data. While that would have privacy concerns for us, Asians do a lot more tracking than we do, and that makes a serious difference.

The GBD holds no interest to me. What does is coming up with a genuinely effective policy, to get the rest of the country up to the point Maine is. Or even better.

 

or to the point of Sweden where liberty was maintained, and they are not suffering like the masked up/locked down countries

 

"Swedish Prime Minister Stefan Lofven on Tuesday announced new coronavirus restrictions, according to Bloomberg, following similar decisions by the leaders of France, Germany, Italy and England aimed at combating the increasing number of cases while marking a departure from Sweden’s less strict approach to the pandemic."
https://www.forbes.com/sites/elanag...ter-coronavirus-restrictions/?sh=713a0b4334f0

They tried that once. They don't want to do it again...

 

Of course the GBD holds no interest to you. In part that is because you find it threatening to your fearfully held world view about the Plandemic.

Scientists and doctors are mere mortals. They can be, and are, paid to write certain things and say certain things, whether those things are true or false. Because they are human, they can be mercenary.

The whistleblowers are portrayed as crazy. They are vilified. As Orwell noted in the last century, speaking the truth in a time of universal deception is a radical act.

The good guys are the whistleblowers, and that scares you.

 

You are genuinely weird.

 

Its not Stockholm syndrome. Too many people would rather fail and have society/environment to blame for it than try to succeed and have themselves to blame for failing. These people welcome any perception that they are being victimized.

 

In a time of universal deception, speaking the truth is perceived by many to be weird and a radical act.

Regurgitating government falsehoods is mundane and ordinary, what the masses do. When everything the American people believe is false, we will know the success of our misinformation efforts. When they go on to regurgitate them on social media, it is icing on the cake.

 

You are one of the better BS artists I've seen.

 

Keep telling yourself that.

The truth can be very painful to some. As Jack Nicholson's character observed, some people simply cannot handle the truth. It blows their internal circuit breakers.

 

Thanks, first laugh of the day.

Not my first rodeo.

 

You may want to check out Maine. They are spiking like everyone else.

 

I know, I started seeing people without masks about a month ago.

"Dr. Thomas Tsai, assistant professor with the Harvard Global Health Institute, said Maine, and the nation, are on the “steep part of a sharply rising curve,” but public health strategies can still be effective. He said Maine has had a “very robust” public health response to the pandemic, and has a lot more tools at its disposal compared to the spring.

But Maine does indeed have a lot going for it. Even though the state’s positivity rate – the percentage of tests that come back positive – has tripled in the last two weeks, it’s still just 1.5 percent, which is a sign that widespread testing is being conducted and not just on people who are strongly believed to have the virus. Other states have positivity rates of 10 percent or more.

Maine also has a governor, in Janet Mills, who has demonstrated over the last eight months that she’s willing to be aggressive with restrictions and safety measures – even in the face of criticism"

Hopefully, we can get it back under control. Having schools and colleges open makes that harder, but we'll try.

https://www.pressherald.com/2020/11...-trend-experts-say-yes-but-it-will-take-work/

 

It’s fascinating how Maine is seeing the same spikes with so much more mitigation than states like mine. We kept (detected) infections low until recently as well. But with very little masking and pretty much everything open. It really doesn’t seem to matter what mitigation practice are used now. Maybe people are just tired of being careful or something.

As far as testing, just remember PCR testing of individuals without symptoms isn’t very effective. Likely up to half of infected individuals will return a negative result. I see now Maine is hanging it’s hat on rapid antigen tests. They aren’t telling you they have a 50% false negative track record either though. I think if people really want to shut this thing down, there’s going to have to be more honesty.

 

I am pretty sure that's what it is.

I think that test is better than that now.