Gretchen Whitmer's private flights draw attention of Michigan Legislature and FAA

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  1. rkhames

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    Gretchen Whitmer's private flights draw attention of Michigan Legislature and FAA | Washington Examiner

    In another do as I say, and not as I do moment for the Governor of Michigan, it turns out that the plane that the Michigan Governor took to Florida was not licensed for charter flights. Now the trip is facing multiple investigations. Including one from the FAA. For those that do not remember, the Michigan Governor claimed that the surge in cases of Covid in her state was from people traveling to Florida. Of course she failed to mention that she and several members of her Administration had taken vacations to the state.
     
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    So, she should let her father die without her? Very compassionate of you.
    She then transported him to Michigan via the same plane where he received successful treatment and is recovering.
    Pretty coldhearted of you.
     
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    The average citizen would have had to deal, why is she exempt? Because she's a leftie? SAD!
     
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    I think ultimately this is going to come down to a question of how many people were on that plane and whether the $800+ price truly reflected the value of her seat on the flight. If she were the sole passenger and/or it was being flown just for her, then this will end up being a bad bad thing. If the plane were already going for a legitimate purpose related to the non-profit and she just bought an empty seat, not a thing at all. We will see.
     
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    Actually, it will come down to whether the FAA decides that the airline violated their licensing by conducting charter business, and whether Whitener had anything to do with the decision to do so. I realize there is not much of a chance for a Biden Administration Investigation finding a liberal Governor guilty of breaking the law. After all, they did fire a Colonel in the Space Force for daring to claim that Marxism and the Critical Race Theory was anti-American.
     
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    How many Family members in Michigan died without families members attending their funerals because of the Michigan Covid-19 restrictions? How many were not allowed to travel to another state to attend a funeral, because of Whitmer's travel restrictions? As I was saying, this is a case of do as I say and not as I do moment for the Michigan Governor. Just like when she told people not to travel to UP Michigan when she was planning a trip to the area herself. Her husband then attempted to use her status to get their boat put into the water ahead of everyone else. Then they tried to play it off as a joke. The only joke was thinking that anyone was buying the line of male bovine excrement. If you are a liberal governor, you think you can get away with this type of double standard. You think you are entitled. She will find out just how entitled she is when she is voted out next term. Bet it will surprise many if the next Michigan Governor is a GOP candidate.
     
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    That is the air carrier's problem. Not hers. The FAA has been trying to crack down on this.
     
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    Again. If the Governor had a hand in the airline making the decision to act as a charter airline, then it is her problem. She can be charged with a crime.
     
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    The avg citizen wouldn’t have gotten that privilege. What a corrupt dem, which is par for the course. And the inept racist joe administration won’t investigate it at all.

    The double standards of dems is astounding
     
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    Did she or her office check to see if the company was a licensed charter company? Were they working out of the airport as a private charter company? And then again the travel restrictions, did they apply to her?
     
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    All good questions.

    I would suggest Google as a logical starting point.

    https://www.google.com
     
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    Don't think it's come out yet, I read the stories about it as they pop up. Those are questions let's hope the media ask.
     
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    LOL. Good luck with that. People pay to board flights every day that are not technically "charter" airlines. The members of Congress are required to pay fair market rates for flights on corporate jets whether or not they are "charter" aircraft.
     
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    Yes, but Corporations are allowed to sell open seats on their aircrafts. That is not the same as providing a charter flight in the eyes of the FAA that is. If a regional courier service is licensed for a Midwest region, and they suddenly file a flight plan to Florida, it tends to catch the FAA's eye. If that flight is chartered to carry someone to the on that flight, then the FAA has to determine whether the charterer of the flight knew that the service was not licensed to preform that charter. If they did, and the Michigan Governor would know that information, then that person is as guilty as the courier service for providing the flight. The company Air Eagle. LLP is required to have a part 135 certification to act as a charter service. The company can shuttle employees and friends around the country for free with a part 91 certification, but the Governor paid $27,000 for the flight. The FAA requires extensive training before handing out a Part 135 certification. Air Eagle did not have the certification or training to act as a charter service. Since the Governor paid for the flight, that made it a charter flight. Further there seems to be some question as to the funding of the flight. It was paid for out of a Inauguration Non-profit, and a cash payment. They have attempted to justify the use of the Inauguration funds as being that she was conducting state business while in Florida. That seems very doubtful seeing as she originally denied the trip ever happened, and then blamed the Florida Governor for COVID-19 surge in her state. Blaming your state's problems on another state and hiding the trip does not qualify as conducting state business. Too bad the FBI thwarted her kidnapping. Just kidding!!!!
     
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    In fairness to Whitmer, the FAA can do one.
     
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    She should be either allowed to go or not allowed to go, dependent entirely on whatever the rule is for the people in her state.
     
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    So you agree, what she did was proper since she could legally do what she did.
    Good on you.
     
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    In March??? There was no prohibition on flying, just a recommendation to avoid unnecessary flights.

    What planet do some of you live on?
     
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    In fairness to the residents of Michigan, the FAA should hold Winter to the same rules they hold everyone else. The fact that she is a liberal elitest does not entitle her to a free pass.
     
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    Not entirely true. In the US there are no travel documents. So, yes the Governor could
    Not entirely true. Even in March, Michigan was requiring residents to self- quarantine 14 days after travel outside the state. It is obvious that the Governor violated that requirement. If she had self-quarantined, someone would have noticed, and she would not have initially claimed that she never took the trip. She was not caught in the lie until she blamed people traveling to Florida for the surge in the state's Covid-19 cases.
     
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    This is an FAA conflict with the carrier not the passengers. It's like saying you're at fault if you get in a cab with an unlicensed driver.
    Think about it, before you get on a plane do you ask to see the pilot's license? Insurance papers? Why would a anyone expect her to?
     
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    Why would anyone expect a state governor with an Army of lawyers to check such things?
     
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    Exactly, it would be silly to expect that. Absolutely silly.
     
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    Nice try but not a valid correlation. If you charter a service knowing that the provider is not certified to preform that service. It is incumbent on the Governor to ensure that the company that she paid $27,000 to has the certification to preform the Charter. This is especially questionable because three Michigan airports are offering first class travel to Florida for less then $600. So, why spend an additional $26,400 for an in certified charter? Could it be that she wanted to be able to deny that she took the trip. If the Detroit newspaper had not identified the carrier as Air Eagle, LLP the FAA would have never known about the violation. Of course, the secret that she had taken the trip had already been blown. I would go so far as to say that if Witmer had not blamed the Civid-19 surge on Florida we still would not know the trip ever took place
     
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    Again, normal people believe that to use an airport the plane is properly registered. I don't ask to see the pilot's license when I fly, do you?
     
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