Gun owners get right to carry without a permit in Florida

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  1. InWalkedBud

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    Gun owners get right to carry without a permit in Florida – but not where lawmakers meet (msn.com)

    ...The measure allows individuals eligible for a concealed weapons license to carry a firearm without a CWL. The Department of Agriculture has issued more than 2.6 million CWLs. The license, requiring a background check, training, and fees, will still exists as an option for Floridians who wish to carry weapons in states that have a concealed carry reciprocity agreement with Florida...

    In other words, if you want to avail yourself of the reciprocal ccw privileges that 30+ other states offer to Floridians, you'll still need to jump thru the usual licensing hoops. Regardless, Desantis seems to be doing his level best to get me to move to Florida.
     
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    Good job, Florida. We also have Constitutional carry in my state, with the exception of the capitol building, law enforcement offices, courts, things of that nature....
     
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    OH I can just hear the lamentations and howling about "blood in the streets" road rage gun battles and felons carrying belt fed machine guns around.
     
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    Next time I'm in Florida I'll remember that there are probably unskilled, untrained people afoot -- people with varying degrees of emotional reactions to slights, real or imagined -- who are armed.

    Regards, stay safe 'n well 'n un-shot.
     
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    that's true in every city in the country.
     
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    You've just described every single dirtbag who's been the news recently for precisely that. Don't you wish there had been legally armed ccw holders onsite in Nashville or Uvalde? If not, why?
     
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    According to the FBI, more than 95% of civilian-involved defensive gun usages (DGU) are resolved peacefully, with no injuries sustained by either party.

    If you search “defensive gun usage" you’ll find it happens anywhere from 500k – 3.5 million times annually (in the US). The raw numbers come from the CDC, most recently from a study ordered by President Obama in 2013.

    While injuries and fatalities resulting from those encounters are delineated in the Obama study, peaceful resolutions are not (one wonders why; I am forced to consider political motivations). Depending on who’s digging into the data, DGUs where the weapon is brandished but not fired & no one is hurt occur anywhere from 200k - 1 million times every year.

    When I was an infant we took a day trip to the mountains and stopped at one of my parents’ favorite spots. During our stay a couple bikers rolled in. Dad could tell they were trouble and loaded wife & kid into the car.

    During the load up one of the bikers shouted at dad to “hand over summa that slant eyed pu$$y!” Loudmouth wheeled his bike about 4 feet off the back bumper and dismounted. He walked to the driver’s side window and leaned in to find himself looking down the barrel of a .357. He and his compadre saddled up and rode off.

    25 years later I owned a '65 Plymouth Barracuda. One day I towed it to a building where I was going to work on it. As I pulled onto the property there were a couple guys about my age sharing a crack pipe. I rolled down the window and said “Hate to tell you guys, but this is private property and you’ll need to clear off.” They snarled and cursed. One of them picked up a piece of rebar and both advanced. I let them see my pistol and told them to simmer down. Both men split.

    In both instances: no shots fired and nobody hurt.

    I've posted these anecdotes a number of times on this board. Curiously, not a single anti-gunner has been able to stipulate whether they approve or condemn our having been armed on those occasions. They always backpedal with lame deflections like "I won't answer that question - it's a trap!" The reality is obvious: intellectual cowardice.
     
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    that's everywhere. The only difference is in places where you have to have a permit those people don't respect the law.

    Until I'm not sure it's any different anywhere else.
     
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    Didn't you know a lot like requiring a permit is it magical spell that controls the hearts and minds of people.

    If for instance it's illegal to carry a gun without a permit in a particular state if a person tries to step out of their home while carrying a gun there's a magical force field that doesn't allow them to leave until they put the gun down.

    Lol. The idea that some words on a piece of paper in the building protects people is hilarious to me.
     
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    Feel good story of the week: Houston: Grandma working in her food truck 'shoots robber dead' | US News | Metro News

    Keshondra Howard Turner, 53, was cooking behind the counter of the soul food truck her family owns when a man approached in a vehicle around 1pm on Tuesday and asked what was being served...

    ...The grandma shut the window of her truck but the man opened it and stuck his arm in, pointing a gun at her...

    ...Turner then shot the suspect multiple times, police said. He collapsed about 50 feet from the truck and was pronounced dead at the scene...

    ...Turner had a panic attack following the shooting and was transported to a nearby hospital for treatment.

    She was licensed to carry a gun, but would not have used it but to save her life, according to her son Derick Howard...


    Aren't you glad Momma Turner was armed? If not, why?

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    Except, of course, at ronnie's campaign events, which are held in gun-free zones.

    #republicanhypocrisy
     
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    good job. one less mope and a brave woman is alive
     
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    as opposed to turds like Biden demanding we cannot own the guns that his armed guards carry to protect his scummy person. that's the real hypocrisy. And it was the secret service that sets those rules. So stop with the blood clot mendacity about Reagan
     
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    Looks like you can use a reality check.

    Joe is far more important, not to mention a far bigger target for random maniacs, than you or me.

    And DeSantis is just another pathetic republican hypocrite...

    DeSantis campaign wanted guns banned at election night event, city employee says (tampabay.com)
     
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    that's the difference between lefties and people like me-you worship government and turds like Biden. He's not all that important and he's certainly not entitled to demand we cannot defend ourselves while our tax dollars give him armed guards. But thanks for not seeing how silly your attack is
     
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    Every single person has a right to defend their life with the best tool available.

    You're free to believe that you don't need to defend yourself but leave other people alone.

    Did you ever get that evidence I asked you for last night?
     
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    does anyone actually believe these anti gun advocates are actually interested in public safety anymore?
     
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    That's what they said in my State, that there would be blood in the streets with Constitutional carry. The result was nada.
     
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    30 or so years ago, CCW permits started to become more common. In every state that started this-Florida, Kentucky, Ohio etc, the gun banners claimed there would be blood in the streets- mall mommas shooting each other over parking spaces. sports fans shooting umpires over bad calls etc

    at first, when it didn't happen, you could merely excuse the dire predictions as just that-but when their predictions failed time and time again, many of us figured out they were liars and will keep lying
     
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    they always had the right, just not the right to conceal

    not sure why republicans required that, to me, I consider concealed the polite way to carry in public, and you should not need a permit to be polite
     
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    Republicans won't admit it publicly, but they know some events are too heated to allow guns

    many Republican choose locations that do not allow guns, so then they can claim it was the location that banned them, not them
     
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    and Democrats won't admit publicly that gun free zones are a magnet for premeditated active shooters who want to kill as many people as they can before someone challenges them with return fire
     
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    yet that is where Republicans choose to host their political events
     
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    so what-tell me your working relationship with the secret service.
     
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    are you saying the Secret Service thinks gun free zones are safer for politicians? wonder why that is?
     
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