Harvey Milk America: a Gay President?

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  1. 4Horsemen

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    IMO< The closest president we've had that has been remotely considered gay is Barack Obama. So do you think a full fledge gay President is on the horizon for America? Romney even? and if so, What would be the first thing a Gay president would sign into law, given gay marriage is already legal for them by then?

    Romney. He's Mormon but that doesn't mean he's not gay.


    sound off Gay elite!!!!
     
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    I suppose someone will be tempted to bring up speculation about Buchanan (the only "bachelor" president) or Lincoln, so I'll attempt to beat them to it by stating the truth: We have not as yet had a president who was openly gay.

    No.

    You can't be serious.

    The implication of this statement being that a gay president would be self-serving and make gay issues their primary focus above everything else. Which is ridiculous.

    I have no idea what a gay president would sign into law first, but I suppose it would be whatever acceptable piece of legislation Congress managed to send to him or her first. No way to predict what that would be.

    I expect we will have a lesbian for president before we have an openly gay man for president.

    True, but I have to ask what makes you think Romney is gay?

    "gay elite"? Really? What the hell is that about?
     
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    Usually Politicians lean heavy toward their constitutents when signing laws.

    he can easily hide it being a Mormon?

    The ones with the big lobby dollars, like Barney Frank.
     
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    Just a flamebait thread.
     
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    Why would the constituents of a gay president be different from those of a straight president?

    Your argument is that we should suspect Romney of being gay because "he can easily hide it as a Mormon"?

    :blankstare: :confuse:

    Can someone translate? There has to be something I'm just not getting here.

    You think that Barney Frank posts here?

    Well, if you're fishing for lobbyists with big money to comment on your thread, then I'll step aside and wait for them to show up. Wake me when they get here. :sleepy:
     
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    get favorable laws for gays passed? who knows what power like that can do.

    My contention is that there has never been a gay President and what would be the implications if we had one? I don't think Romney is one though.

    do you think a Gay President would end the wars?

    Have a better foreign Policy around the world?

    I mean the Gay community claims to be so Progressive and Fresh and new, I was wondering how a Gay President would fare in this climate?

    How would a Gay leader of the free world be perceived to someone llike say...Iran?

    Could a Gay President handle the pressure of being President?
     
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    Avoiding the question, so I will pose it to you again:

    Why would the constituents of a gay president be different from those of a straight president?

    Congress passes the laws. Are the constituents of members of Congress not part of this equation? I fail to see how having a president who is gay would result in the passage of laws favorable to that segment of the population. I also think you're making a ton of bad assumptions about the political temperament of a gay president based on their orientation alone.


    My contention is that there are too many variables in the mix to make assumptions about the implications.

    Glad to see you're abandoning that bit of ridiculousness.

    I don't see any reason to assume that a gay president would end wars. What does being gay have to do with it?

    I don't see any reason to assume that a gay president's foreign policy would be any better or worse that a straight president's. What does being gay have to do with it?

    You obviously don't know much about the 'gay community' - a group with opinions and political leanings as diverse as the 'straight community'.

    How are American presidents in general perceived by leaders in a place like Iran? It will depend as much on the climate in that country at such time as gay president is elected, which I expect to be pretty much never, or at least so far in the distant future that it's impossible to say what conditions in the world in general will be like, much less Iran specifically.

    I fail to see what being gay would have to do with a president's ability to handle the pressure of the office.

    Your questions reveal a considerable bias and lack of knowledge concerning gay people.
     
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    Do any you of think we will have a Gay president before we have a female President?

    and btw, Perriquine, you're doing a swell job dodging all those questions. keep it up.:wink:
     
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    I do not.

    I haven't dodged anything; I'm simply not operating under the delusion that I can see the future, and am also not hampered by the prejudice that a gay president would do certain things merely because he's gay. That you are is evident from the questions you ask. Do this for me: Go back and ask yourself the same questions, substituting "straight" for "gay". Then report back to us on how silly you feel.

    Why does PF keep eating portions of my posts?

    And you accusing me of dodging is pure hypocrisy when you have yet to provide a clear answer that is responsive to the question I posed to you earlier.
     
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    Oh but you CAN see the future on Gay Marriage and Gays adopting kids and how those things would turn out? How strange.
     
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    Show me any post of mine where I made an actual prediction about any of the above issues having a certain outcome. I very much doubt you can find one.

    Now, since you're posting falsehoods in an attempt to attack my credibility, and as a means of dodging the question I asked you, I guess we're done here.
     

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