Health Benefits of Circumcision Outweigh Risks

So you're saying women are turned on by the foreskin?

 

I'm saying that you're deliberately twisting what both yu and I said, because you got caught out talking (*)(*)(*)(*)e.

 

Where did you get this information?

 

I've read the analysis of the studies. But here is an article.

Turns out the African study TOLD the men who were circumcised TO USE COMDOMNS, instructed them how to use them....

There used to be a myth that it also saved people from cancer - again a myth.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ali-a-rizvi/male-circumcision-and-the_b_249728.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medical_analysis_of_circumcision#HIV.2FAIDS

Or you coud just read this, which covers pretty all the BS on this thread:

http://www.nocircpa.org/4642.html

This final thread is the reality:

http://www.icgi.org/2010/04/infant-circumcision-causes-100-deaths-each-year-in-us/

Approximately 117 neonatal circumcision-related deaths (9.01/100,000) occur annually in the United States, about 1.3% of male neonatal deaths from all causes.

 

With modern pain killers neither need be painful. And there are different variations on female circumcision- including as minor as removing the hood of the clitoris- which is analogous to the foreskin.

I think the controversy about male circumcision is exactly whether it is A-OK. The only real reason it has been A-OK for the last 50 years is the person being circumcized is in no position to object.

So let me restate what I have said over and over- I am all in favor of a consenting adult male deciding to be circumcized.

 

I find it hard to believe a woman wouldn't sleep with a man or find his penis unattractive because he's uncircumcised

 

Circumcision is circumcision. The gender of the person onwhich the butchering is enacted upon does not matter.

The North Sea tastes just as salty as the Atlantic Ocean...

The only way you think male circumcision does less harm is because it has become a "procedure". A procedure that has been clinicalized.

It creates a "mental distance".

 

if you ever talk to a woman, ask her.

 

sorry, still taking the drs opinion over your's

 

The baby does not have any religion, and may likely turn out not to share the same religion as his parents when he grows up. The parents should not have any right to permanently (circumcision is not really reversible) impose their religion on the baby.

The baby does not consent. If it did, the baby would not have to be tied down against its will.
http://intactivists.blogspot.com/2011/05/one-babys-experience.html

 

Oh, please!

Just say you believe that opposing circumcision is a cover for anti-semitism! Which is BS!

Would you say people who are opposed to Female genital mutilation are anti Muslim? Probably not!

We are just opposed to MUTILATING BABIES, usually without painkillers.

 

the article in the OP says you're just opposed to science.

 

The OP is not "science" judgement - it is an evaluation of comparative risks between two alternatives.

But its quite typical for doctors to be subject to the same irrational weighting of "sex organ and sexual problems" as everyone else does in our society.

We get plenty of routine infections, pain, and expensive maintenance and problems from fingernails in our lifetime which have NO essential purpose in a modern society, but the call for fingernail removal is pretty much absent. Just as the need for REMOVAL of the penis foreskin MAY have made some kind of sense in Old Testament times when a shower and soap were harder to come by than now, but frankly these doctor's arguments deserve the same skepticism as any other source that proclaims the "safety" of a procedure they could well have vested interests in.

I find it vastly amusing that many of the same people who claim the MUCH more time consuming procedure of abortion that gets a MUCH lower price is motivated by DOCTOR'S GREED, but that doctor's proclaiming the need for a pointless procedure like circumcision, which is INCREDIBLY FASTER AND EASIER ans yet gets 3 or 4 TIMES the money is somehow a "good idea"!

http://saving-babies.blogspot.com/2011/08/dollars-sense-business-of-circumcision.html

 

Lets face facts, in the US, everything boils down to someone making profit - this will be heavily involved in the cicumcision argument at some point.

Ironically, Dr's are prepared to have you take the chance that your son might die, so that they can make money.

 

Erm, as a woman, I find both attractive. But I do not beleive in circumcision and think that it "works" best when in tact.

Don't ask for more details.

 

Although It is tempting, We won't.

 

If I get an itch I want to have a tool that is instantly accessible and renewable and free to use.
You know that if a corporation funded scientific studies to provide sufficient evidence that fingernails were more of a danger than a benefit and the population had them removed over the space of a few generations, that same corporation would be in place to make prosthetic 'iítchers' and sell them to us at a few dollars a pop. They would probably break after a few hundred uses and a DIY industry would spring up to effect self repairs which they would probably own as well. Not to mention the killing they would make by having a vested interest in nail removal.

No thanks. First the fingernail, the next my soul. I'll not walk down that road to devastation voluntarily. You can take my life, but you'll never take my nails!

 

If my parents had circumcised my penis as a toddler, I would have sued their arses later.

 

Anyone did a search on some of the doctors being mentioned in the OP...



OMG!

Y'all can't believe what you find if you type "Jewish caricatures" into Google...

 

Or you'd be featuring adult movies...

No seriously i mean, i've yet to meet a circumcised man who wished he was not.

 

You must be lacking comprehension skills, or you haven't read all this thread.

But, I tend to believe, now, that you're only interested in seeing your point of you. Am I rite?

 

Oh I have.....women are far less superficial about these things than men are. They might have a preference(European women tend to prefer uncut, American women cut) but havent' heard any woman say that they jumped out of bed in horror.

I have had women tell me that they have done that when the member in question was just too 'titanic' however.

 

Tell me Mike- were you for circumcision before this article came out? I suspect so. The science for the last 20 years has largely been that circumcision is a medically unnecessary surgery- but I bet you were for it then.

 

Do you wear very thick glasses?

 

sorry guys I aadmit not being an expert on this subject and NOT having read all 15 pages of this thread , but if this was'nt posted before now, - here it is :


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