Help me understand the opposition to the LGBTQ community. Opposition input preferred.

Why are you so resentful of gay people? it seems particularly gay men. I have seen you post about this topic for a number of years.

Those parts of you that you hide aren't well hidden from people who know how to see them.

I know plenty of straight men that are married with children. happy homes lots of love, not a single one of them talks about my "special privilege" Most of them don't have enough time to really think about it.

I think it is a particular type of man that concerns themselves with this to the degree that you do. Do you think it will work?

 

Why must we be exposed to them? I thought what was done in the privacy of a bedroom was private. If a man wants to dress as a women, do it tastefully. No one will suspect. If a women wants to portray a man, same thing. If either sex wants to mutilate their genitalia, wait until you are the age of consent.

Problem is, you want others to accept your quirks as normal. Well......that is asking a bit too much!

 

We have to be exposed to you. and your sexuality constantly long before we were able to consent.

If only people believed this. the LGBT wouldn't exist outside of a bizarre BLT with grape jam on it. It was formed because people were not okay with what we did in our bedrooms.

I would love for this to be the case if all the Christian types would stop about us and our lifestyle and leave the marriage crap alone. hell, I am even okay with bakeries and florists declining my wedding I can find others trilled to accept my business. I am a gay man living in a straight world I understand that. I am willing to give you all the room you need. I don't really have a choice. All i am asking for is a tiny little bit. why is that unacceptable?

I think medical transition for kids is inappropriate

Why is it too much? Why is it necessary to remind us that we arn't normal? We know people have made us aware of that since our childhood. why can't what we do in our bedrooms be ignored? Why do you need to make an effort to remind us that we are detestable? what do you get out of that?

 

It is not so much a case of general opposition to this minority group, it is the opposition of "militants" who espouse its "cause" who are opposed to society.

 

Of course you are exposed to us. For crying out loud, we gave you life!

Marrige, by traditional definition is between a man and a women. Why did you have to invade our territory? What you have....call it something else. It is no substitute for the foundation of "family".

We agree on something here.

Because to us, it flies in the face of the "natural". You do your thing but don't try to make us see it as a redemptive quality.

 

so then of course you're exposed to us you gave us life.

see you are overly concerned with what we do that doesn't involve you that's why you're exposed to us you insist on it.

how about you just leave us alone take your opinion on what nature is in climate where the sun don't shine.

I guarantee you this is 100% natural to me gay people are absolutely Born This Way if they weren't they wouldn't be any of us.

The shame starts for us in around fifth grade. If we could switch that off every one of us absolutely would have by now.

So your notions of nature are strictly or belief maybe change your belief and then you don't have to worry about it so much.

 

It's kind of a two-way street don't insist on telling me how dirty and unnatural and sinful I am and there won't be any need for parades or LGBT activism.

But I think that's the problem isn't it. These things are being affirmed by the culture and that bothers you. The question is why. Why does it bother you so much what people do in their bedrooms?

Why can't you just leave it alone.

 

I don't worry about you. You are not the center of the universe.

 

Where have I told you you are sinful? Where have I told you you are dirty? Sounds like an internal conviction you might have. Don't pin it on me. I have said your behavior is unnatural. I'll leave it at that. Parades and activism is where you become offensive. You know that.

When it's being shoved in our faces many of us won't be silent. Got a problem with that?

 

I wish that was the case I wish people didn't worry about me but my existence seems to fly in the face of your concept of nature.

This suggests some more important to you than you would like me to be

I never asked to turn over your concept of nature

 

you didn't. Other people have and just like I'm not the center of the universe neither are you much of what the LGBT is about much of the activism is really trying to tell gay people that those sorts of things are bullshit.

I thought this was more of a discussion about society as a whole I didn't know I was just talking about you and you alone.

the parades and activism is about saying I won't be ashamed. Even if you think it's unnatural this may not be something you need but it is something gay people need.

Yes it is an internal conviction and a personal thing I'm not sure why you have to be offended to buy it or why anyone should care.

Get your face the **** out of that who told you to put it there?

At one time there was a metaphorical Black box and people were content to live within the black box people came jamming their face in there and saying you need to quit doing this those people broke the box open.

You're shoving your face into it you entered this thread you commented on it you responded to my post you're shoving your face into it.

If you really didn't care you would have said you do you and moved on but you didn't

What I do in my bedroom is apparently very important to you. I would like for it not to be that would be my dream come true.

 

Who ever in these forums ever asked you if you are gay? Why do we have to know? Have I ever stated my own sexual preference? I would hope most would assume mine is the natural course.....but if they don't, that's on them.

 

Again. I never wanted to know, didn't need to know, but you shout it from the rooftops!

 

nobody I just won't be ashamed of it if you want me to be too bad if that's showing it in your face and you're being hypersensitive.

Now if I said I was Christian or Jewish or a fan of the Detroit Lions you wouldn't be asking me who asked me those things.

You might ask me why I'm at Detroit Lions fan specially in the threat about baseball or whatever but this isn't right about homosexuality.

You are rubbing your face in it.

They aren't intentionally directing the parades right in front of your door.

I see it because I don't want to be ashamed of it. From about the age of 11 I felt a deep shame for this. I'm not telling you about what goes on in my bedroom. I'm saying a preference I have start rubbing your face in it? Are you really that sensitive?

Based on your behavior regarding homosexuality and how much it bothers you to hear about it that seems to indicate that you may have a couple latent tendencies.

When a friend of mine introduces their wife to me and says this is my wife that's no different than me saying I'm gay.

Do you think I freak out and whine about straight people rubbing it in my face when movies and music and even my own friends and family Express that their heterosexual? I don't care I can really don't care. In fact I can enjoy love songs and movies with heterosexual romance and. I don't have any Hang-Ups about it.

 

No I'm saying in the conversation. That's not shouting it from the rooftops. You're being a bit of a drama queen here. I'm not broadcasting it anymore then a straight person would be if they talk about their wife or their husband or their children or their girlfriends or boyfriends.

You are just way more sensitive than I am. Maybe you should cowboy up

 

So you ARE ashamed and you think talking about it will help you mask the shame. You are finally "cowboying up". I can appreciate that.

You shouldn't freak out. You did have and maybe still have a Mom and Dad......that's how most people originate.

 

Lying about it doesn't help

Not mask it but get past it.

So you understand why i mention it.

You shouldn't cry about my sexuality. I am not rubbing your face in it or shouting it from the rooftops. I just mention it just like straight people do. you don't have to agree with it you don't have to accept it but i will not hide it. that is over and that is how you overcome shame.

 

Not that I disagree with you, but militants are created they aren't born.

 

Like trans and homosexual behavior. They are created not born that way. It is all behavioral.

 

If you know this and you know how this happens and you're keeping this away from people who would give anything to be anything else, you are absolute evil incarnate for not sharing it.

You know how many young men killed themselves because they just couldn't accept being gay? If you know something about this and can explain how to fix it in a useful way I hear you letting these people die?

 

Given the vast complexity of the human mind, preventing suicide is a tenuous endeavor at best. Revolutionizing society for fear of such a danger to such a minute, fringe part of the population is much more harmful than the imagined benefit. Efforts of education to develop understanding and acceptance of the human condition are fully justified. Turning reason, logic and language upside down is not.

 

Polydectes, I, like everyone, have struggled with behavioral issues myself all my life. We all have a propensity toward behaviors that are less than productive. There is a solution that I testify to and it has to do with focusing on the right things. I don't "keep it away from people". I share it when appropriate even though it is often rejected.
Jesus said, "take up your cross daily and follow Me."

 

When did you stop being gay?

so you stopped being gay so you can find a woman and pop out some kids how many men did you sleep with before that?

you don't think I tried that? It didn't work.

People reject that because it doesn't work. You can lie to yourself and it works but that isn't the same thing

 

The question is should I support the culture of extinction?
No I do not support culture of extinction. So, yes, I am resentful of gay propaganda, as everyone should be including gay people.
Also I do not want gay lifestyle promoters to insult other people's intelligence talking about so called "equality".
There is no equality between homosexual and heterosexual couples, there is a clear distinction between those.
Heterosexual couples are capable to procreate, so government should regulate and support those couple in form of providing marriage benefits.
Homosexual relationship is 100% private business, it has nothing to do either with the government or marriage benefits.

 

Do you really think people marrying the same sex will end heterosexuality?

so you think you are crusading against the gays secret plot to end heterosexuality?

So you need mommy government to affirm your marriage? What are you some sort of communist?

Why does same sex marriage haunt you so deeply?