He's only speaker for just over a year.

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  1. StillBlue

    StillBlue Well-Known Member

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    I think the Republicans have failed if they think this guy is their man. Already his interviews have landed in not just far right but make believe far right.
    Oh well, elections in a year.
     
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    ETTD......soon for this religious zealot. He's there as speaker for two reasons, one, to do what Trump wants, two, to do what Trump wants.
     
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    Speaker MAGA Johnson is an OXYMORON.

    The officially DEFINED role of Speaker is at ODDS with the Khaos Kaw-Kuss AGENDA.

    We already know that there will be NO semblance of "ORDER" when it comes to trying to pass the BUDGET legislation given that he is OPPOSED to it happening WITHOUT gutting the government of We the People.

    When MAGA "wins" then America LOSES.
     
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    Told y’all you were gonna regret getting rid of RINO Mccarthy. He was willing to make deals with the democrats and had a fractured party.

    Johnson isn’t going to make deals with democrats and he’s going to unify the caucus to vote in step, so he won’t need the democrats in the House
     
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    To give you some insight, Johnson is probably my most favorite member of congress if that tells you anything. I just didn’t think he had a chance at the speaker. But he’s a hard line conservative unlike RINO Mccarthy
     
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    The ascension of an unabashed MAGAnut to the role of Speaker may, or may not, help those who don't pay much attention to politics realize just how extremist the core of the party has become. Because he is open about his view, for example, that any medical personnel who takes part in an abortion should serve ten years in jail at hard labor. I expect Dems to hang beliefs like that around the Repub's necks in the coming election cycle.
    The irony being the original MAGAnut knows abortion is a losing issue for Repubs. And because he has no moral feelings about abortions but rather looks at it strictly in political terms he has no problem changing his view to suit his needs.
     
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    My guess is the powers that be said OK, this guy can be the speaker, as long as he understands his job is to bang the gavel when told to and then sit down and shut up.
     
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    Hilarious!

    All those R House members in SWING STATES are going to put their OWN seats on the line for MAGA Johnson, Molester Matt and Wanker Bobert? Speaking of which she is PROBABLY going to LOSE in 2024 which is something that will DEFINITELY make the MODERATE R members LESS likely to vote FOR gutting the funding of the government of We the People.

    There will be REGRETS, but just NOT the ones you IMAGINE will occur.

    We the People have been given a FRONT ROW seat to the THREATS of VIOLENCE and DEATH by the SUPPORTERS of the Khaos Kaw-Kuss. We can ALL see the INCOMPETENCE and puerile SQUABBLING between what are Adults In Name Only.

    We the People will VOTE for BLUE in record numbers in 2024.
     
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    Having no moral feelings about abortion is par for the course for you Libs. Isn’t that a good thing?
     
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    If ONLY there were any "powers that be" left to exercise RESTRAINT over the Khaos Kaw-Kuss Speaker.

    McCastrated is old news, McConnell is one synapse shy of being brain dead. The MAGAsshat himself APPROVES of this "choice" which makes him another of those "bestest people" that somehow end up on the wrong side of the Law of the Land.

    The INMATES have OFFICIALLY assumed control of the ASYLUM formerly known as the GOP.
     
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    Keep wishing
     
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    Speaking as a Lib it is IMMORAL to DENY women their Reproductive RIGHTS.

    Just because you don't understand Liberal MORALITY does not mean that they have none.
     
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    Like the presidential race, the generic congressional ballot is basically tied even after all the chaos of the last three weeks considering the MOE of plus or minus three points.


    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/2024_generic_congressional_vote-7969.html


    Both the battle for control of the House and the presidency are 50-50 these days as to who will occupy the white house and who will control the House. This rematch for the presidency is one most Americans don’t want as they dislike and don’t want neither Trump nor Biden to become the next president. This unwantedness will have an effect on all the down ballot races. What that effect will be, remains to be seen.
     
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    Do any of those RCP polls take into account the REMOVAL of the GOP Gerrymandered Congressional District maps across multiple Red states?

    Could be anywhere from an 8 to a16 seat SWING assuming voting patterns remain as they were in the prior elections.

    The generic polls are not of any value given that they are based on what were gerrymandered maps that will not be in force for 2024. Far better to use the Exit Polls because that is a better read on who actually voted and apply that math to the new maps IMO. At best that generic polls SLIGHT R lean within the MOE should be a Red Flag for the RNC that they are going to be hard pressed to hang onto the seats they currently have.
     
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    Considering they passed that very partisan farm bill, the next CR is not going to be clean either. There is not enough time to pass the remaining appropriation bills if die-hard partisanship is used even when attempting to reduce the deficit.
     
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    All things considered, the fact that he's an extremist doesn't change the House dynamics very much. And it doesn't make it more likely anything he favors will pass in the Senate.
     
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    When they fail and the budget expires President Biden should simply issue an Executive Order based on the Full Faith and Credit Clause of the Constitution that enables the government departments under his authority to continue funding as normal based on the existing budget until a new budget is passed.

    This will be challenged but the SCrOTUS will be caught between a rock and a hard place. If THEY overturn the EO then the GOP will take full blame for the shutdown. If they allow it to stand they UNDERMINE the Khaos Kaw-Kuss and the MAGA Speaker.
     
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    You are welcome to that religious based belief. It doesn't change that Don looks at abortion opportunistically, as he does all things.
     
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    But if he’s for abortion that’s a point in his favor for y’all right?
     
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    Yes, he will be speaker for just over a year. This leads to the question, why were the Republican dissidents so stubborn and adamant?
     
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    Because they were put in office for the express purpose of having a spine and not compromising with the democrats. McCarthy was trying to make deals with them. So he has to go.
     
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    I don't think that will happen either with that executive order. The GOP has already taken some blame the last time, and more blame for taking 3 weeks to choose a speaker. And many rural Republicans didn't like the farm bill cutting green energy incentives that help their farm add additional income.
     
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    Mike Johnson is very anti-abortion and supports a national abortion ban. He is very far right on social issues ranging from criminalizing homosexuality to banning most abortions to limiting rights to "social deviants."
     
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    Let me help, only real sickos are pro abortion. Nobody is getting pregnant just so they can have an abortion. What we are is pro abortion rights. In a perfect world no abortions at all would be needed nor desired. It's not a perfect world.
     
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    Now you are just being rational and reasonable. ;)

    The Xtofascists have demonstrated that IDEOLOGY overrides any harm that may cause to their own supporters. Slashing the budget irrespective of those farm bill incentives is just collateral damage, they will send their "thoughts and prayers" to the farmers.
     

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