HHS Secretary: No Coronavirus Spike in Reopened Areas, Only Closed Areas

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    Health and Human Services Sec. Alex Azar said on Sunday that so far there has been no spike in coronavirus cases in areas beginning to reopen. In fact, the secretary noted, the spikes we are seeing are happening in areas that remain closed.

    "We are seeing that in places that are opening, we’re not seeing this spike in cases," Sec. Azar said on CNN's State of the Union on Sunday. "We still see spikes in some areas that are, in fact, closed."




    https://townhall.com/tipsheet/brons...e-in-reopened-areas-only-closed-ones-n2568971





    This is bad news for the control freaks. The science if there is any at all behind the severe extended shutdowns. It’s time for America to go back to work. I wonder how some blue state governors and big city mayors will spin this?
     
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    Compare and contrast...
     
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    American and Chinese Democrats have a vested interest in spreading the virus and making its impact as painful as possible.

    Ask yourself, if Democrats could snap their fingers and end Coronavirus, but trump got the credit, would they snap their fingers? Ofcourse not.
     
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    Spim Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If there is no big spike in Florida in about 10 days then we likely are over this. People are everywhere out there. Packed in like sardines at checkout spending money.

    hopping on a plane this weekend, sorry doom & gloomers, I've got things to do.
     
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    dadoalex Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    For anyone who believes this I have a truckload of HCQ I'll seel you cheap!
     
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    dadoalex Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Really?

    https://cbs12.com/news/local/woman-...-dashboard-has-been-removed-from-her-position

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    TALLAHASSEE, Fla. (CBS12) — As Florida starts to reopen, the architect and manager of Florida's COVID-19 dashboard, announced she'd been removed from her position, Florida Today reported.

    Rebekah Jones said in an email to CBS12 News that her removal was "not voluntary" and that she was removed from her position because she was ordered to censor some data, but refused to "manually change data to drum up support for the plan to reopen."

    Jones made the announcement May 5 in a farewell email to researchers and other members of the public who had signed up to receive updates on the data portal, according to Florida Today. She said that for "reasons beyond my division's control," her office is no longer managing the dashboard, involved in its publication, fixing errors or answering any questions.

    Florida's COVID-19 dashboard, created by a team of Florida Department of Health data scientists and public health officers led by Jones, was praised by White House officials for its accessibility, the Florida Daily reported. But over the last few weeks, it "crashed and went offline, data disappeared with no explanation and access to the underlying data sheets became difficult."

    Jones told CBS12 News that since she's been removed, the dashboard still hasn't been fully repaired."
     
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    Florida may see a spike, but mostly because we're now doing so much testing. However, although this may reveal a spike in cases, I don't think we'll see a spike in hospitalizations or deaths, because the people are asymptomatic and likely to stay that way. (We are even testing asymptomatic people in Florida now.) If anything the spike in cases, but no corresponding spike in hospitalizations and deaths, may just further drive home how COVID is not the boogeyman the Democrats want it to be and we really are not "all gonna die!!!!!!!"
     
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    agree.

    I tried to make a return at Burlington yesterday, first drive by there were 20 people in line to get in, (apparently at capacity) so we did some other errands then drove by again on the way back, there was a 2 hour wait at checkout. 2 hours! Obviously I just got back in the car and moved on and i'll try another day. But obviously the store not only underestimated the number of customers but didn't plan accordingly with enough cashiers on staff.

    What baffled me is that people were willing to wait that long to pay for stuff, obviously the shoppers are much more patient than I am because if they were like me, the line would be short on people but long on carts full of stuff with no customer next to it because they gave up and left.
     
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    First time I clicked that link, never heard of the dashboard, but it had lots of pretty pictures and interactive maps, was I supposed to be using this as some sort of guide to decide whether or not to go to my office?
     
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    I enjoyed taking my wife out to dinner last night. Texas has been open for 2 weeks. We are in phase 2 now. 50% occupancy in most businesses.
     
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    Its original goal was to PROVIDE information to the public.
    Obviously that goal has changed to DENY information to the public.
     
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    ok, good. I'm still just going to drive to and from work like I usually do and like about 300k in my city also did this morning by the looks of the traffic which was pretty thick.

    Again, very pretty website, lots of charts and graphs and pretty colors, but since I never looked at it before, I really don't care if its current or not/
    But hey if you want to get out there and protest or file a lawsuit that's up to you, I won't try to stop you but I advise protesting on the sidewalk because if not you'll get hit by one of the hundreds of cars driven by people that are heading to work, and I don't want to see that happen.
     
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    You won't see deaths in Florida because they aren't counting snowbirds and other out of state residents in their totals, even though they may have been living and died of COVID-19 in Florida. They are notifying other states of the deaths and then never following up. Also, the state is suppressing a ton of death certificates coming from county coroners.
     
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    of all places to have dinner, we ended up at the food court at the local mall, got my favorite philly cheese steak sammich, quite tasty. I learned to cook a lot of my favorites during april, but never did figure out how to make a good philly steak.
     
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    I fully support people being able to make the choice of self determination. If they get sick we should keep hospital beds for individuals that were cautious however.
     
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    do what you will.

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    Just curious, how exactly would the death panel determine who was cautious or not?
    Will they fill out a questionnaire in the emergency room?
     
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    We could have a hole punch on people’s insurance card. Or we could just use cell phone locations like they are doing to build spread models as just reauthorized by Mitch McConnell through the browsing history and GPS data.
     
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    excellent idea, when do we start, tomorrow?
    Jane Smith, age 94, lifelong democrat, shows up at the emergency room at 9am tomorrow and she can't breath well, the ball is in your court, dig up her cricket phone data and browsing history (pornhub? jesus Jane you viewed some sick stuff) In the meantime she sits in the waiting room coughing.
     
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    Probably one the best things people can do is spend more time outdoors. The virus doesn't do well in sunlight and vitamin D and exercise are good for health. There should be incentives for people to go outdoors.
     
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    I haven't missed a day of work while everyone is on vacation. You're not taking a hospital bed that I payed for. I've worked in 3 states in the last 2 weeks alone.
     
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    yes and yes. get outside, see the sun, take vitamin D, strengthen your immune system.

    I recently listened to this JRE podcast, http://podcasts.joerogan.net/podcasts/dr-rhonda-patrick-9

    Dr. Patrick made a very interesting case supporting vitamin D, I was taking 2000, but bumped it up to 4000 after listening to this.
    its long podcast, but she covers the vitamin D part in detail during the first hour, maybe around the 30 minute mark to 45 minute mark IIRC. interesting stuff that covers a lot of good material.
     
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    I’ll let you all Know how horrible it isn’t in south FL. Keep you posted. Went to Home Depot. Everyone still wearing masks.
     
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    They doing better over there then, I'm west coast of FL and maybe 20% wearing masks.
     
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    to early to tell, in the next couple weeks we should know more - was Trump right to go against his own reopening guidelines or not is hard to tell at this point

    lot of Trump supporters still on social media, so assuming they are taking the wait and see approach too
     
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