Hillary Clinton: misogyny 'certainly' played a role in 2016 election loss

Well those are all ludicrous statements requiring some evidence and support but with your track record of lies there will be none forth coming.

Most in fact know exactly what you claim they do not. America is far more vested in government than the eurotrash who are allowing extremist politicians like Merkel to destroy their own nations

 

Blah, blah, blah, blather from the Neurotic Right-wing ...

 

If it did, it was a rather insignificant role. Thing is, Hilla has had a pretty bad rep going way back to her days in Arkansas. I think she discounts the animus many people, including Democrats, have for her. Look: She should have won the nod in 2008 but she was so disliked that a complete political noob - and let's be honest, that's what Obama was back then - took the nomination from her, and quite handily too. There were a lot of people in her own party who couldn't wait to vote against her. And she made it so easy for them to dislike her. Her lies - even about things she didn't need to lie about like dodging bullets in Bosnia of being named after Sir Edmund Hillary, she practically painted a target on herself. And that kind of stuff doesn't wash away so easy.

I'll give you something else to consider. Hillary ran a campaign geared to the liberal elites. Trump ran a marketing campaign. Hillay, what was her message? Stronger together (implying with her), I'm with her? Campaign messages that put her front and center. Trump's? Make America Great Again. Trump actually had a campaign message that had a vision, Hillary had one that was about her. Trump played to people who had been forgotten by the DNC, Hillary all but ignored people who should have voted for her. Good Lord, Hillary ignored advice from Bill as to what to do, and Bill knows how to run a successful campaign. I'd have to say that Hilla blaming misogyny for her loss indicates that she just doesn't get it. She lost because she ran a terrible campaign, because her strategy was faulty, because she preached to the choir instead of going out where the votes were, because she insulted independents with her "deplorables" line, for many more reasons than I have time to tell. But the most telling thing about her is that even now, she refuses to accept any blame herself; it wasn't her fault in the slightest that she lost, no - it was sexism, had to be, it couldn't be her. Hillary Clinton: The worlds oldest teenager.

Hillary should have won. I mean it. She should have. She had the means, the experience, the money, the press, Hollywood, the talking heads, Saudi Arabia, the rich, just about everyone on her side. Trump should have been toast. And yet she blew it. She blew it to Trump, who - look, he ain't qualified. I'm not a Trump fan. Any support for Trump I do have begins and ends with the fact that he isn't Hillary. Still: he won. And the fact that Hillary - and by extension, the rest of the DNC - lacks the self-awareness to understand why indicates they will keep losing. Hillary and the Dems are completely out of touch with reality if they really believe they lost because of sexism. If anything, they lost because of their own arrogance.

And how many of those tweets were by women? I don't see the info there. I deal with a bunch of teenagers at school, and most of the times I hear those words, it's from girls calling other girls that because someone looked at their boyfriend as they live out their Real Housewives of Atlanta dreams.

 

Oh, by the way, I did a little looking into your "misogyny online" claim.

It seems you left out some relevant information.

Intentional?

The "study" you mentioned came up with about 200k examples of such language, but included multiple tweets to the same "targets". These tweets were "to" about 80k "targets".

The interesting part?

HALF OF THE TWEETS WERE FROM WOMEN

https://www.demos.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Misogyny-online.pdf

Women are as almost as likely as men to use the terms ‘slut’ and ‘whore’ on Twitter. Not only are women using these words, they are directing them at each other, both casually and offensively; women are increasingly more inclined to engage in discourses using the same language that has been, and continues to be, used as derogatory against them.

What else might be a point found in the same article?

THE SEX OF THE "TARGET" IS INDETERMINATE. THEY COULD BE TWEETING TO A MAN, OR A WOMAN.

However, we did not try to determine the gender of the individuals who received the messages.

Oh here's another fun one:

http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-36380247

A 2014 study from cosmetics firm Dove found that over five million negative tweets were posted about beauty and body image. Four out of five were sent by women.

Now let me get to the actual question.

I know the Socratic Method is Kryptonite to leftist brain cells, but please give us some concrete examples of how misogyny was the cause of Clinton losing votes.

"Misogyny exists, ipso facto its why Clinton lost" doesn't cut it.

I'm sure you realize that not voting for Clinton doesn't make you a misogynist any more than not voting for Trump makes you a misandrist.

At least I hope you do.

 

Half.

More detail in above post.

Also, I'd be curious to know how many of those tweets came from practicing Muslims.

 

I'm not even American and, as a leftist, I'm still disgusted by the blantal disregard of personal responsibility. Clinton ****ed up by leading a horrible campaign that failed to arouse voters. The DNC ****ed up by sabotaging Sanders and pushing for an uninspiring candidate who is balls deep into the establishment and corporate interests instead of someone with an actual liberal platform. The voting base ****ed up by falling for it. The media ****ed up by giving Trump billions in free advertisement and never (not even at this point) realizing it's a bad tactic. Yet after all these ****-ups, you still have people, and the candidate herself, pulling the woman card and ignoring the actual issues with the party.

How have US liberals not scratched their own eyes out yet? If I were in your position I'd have a pretty strong impulse.

 

Well lets not forget incompetent, neglectful, and a deviate.

 

It's quite ignorant for anyone to think women can't be misogynists....in fact that is ANOTHER sexist stereotype...

The FACT that NO woman has been President or Vice President is proof enough of misogyny playing a role in who is or who isn't elected...

 

People who vote for a woman because she's a woman are sexist.

 

Yes, and people who vote for men because they aren't women are sexist,too.

You didn't refute a word of the post of mine you quoted:

""It's quite ignorant for anyone to think women can't be misogynists....in fact that is ANOTHER sexist stereotype...

The FACT that NO woman has been President or Vice President is proof enough of misogyny playing a role in who is or who isn't elected..."""

 

I agree

That just means fewer woman have ran. Hillary didn't lose because Americans are sexist. For every 1 vote Trump got because he's a dude, Hillary got 1 because she's a chick. Americans aren't the racist/sexist/bigots the left paints them to be.

 

The FACT that NO woman has been President or Vice President is proof enough of misogyny, AND/OR sexism, playing a role in who is or who isn't elected..."""

Fewer women run because OF the misogyny and sexism, there have been many women would have made as a good a president as any President so far and to deny that is ingrained sexism...It's believing women just aren't "as good as men"...

Sexism exists whether acknowledged or not...........most sexists can't recognize their own sexism because it's so deeply ingrained...

 

Just say "the American people are racist/sexist/bigots and deserved to be punished". They are such racist/sexist/bigots, they don't even know they are racist/sexist/bigots. I believe we will have a women president, but I'm not gunna vote for her just because she's a woman. That's what leftist do. They vote for people because of their race/sex/religion.

 

This is a perfect example of liberal thinking. Start with a logical fallacy and chase it back onto itself.

In the last 20 years there have only been three other women on a major ticket other than Clinton to run for the Presidency, and both of them dropped out due to lack of money. Unless, of course, you were a Rosanne Barr supporter for President I suppose.

If Hillary Clinton had not been married to Bill Clinton she would have never even been elected as a senator. She accomplished nothing as a US senator and was arguably the worst, if not one of the top 3 worst, SoS's in US history. Everything Hillary Clinton touched was made worse, and she's the poster girl for the worst qualities in a politician.

Besides, if that's your litmus test for misogyny in America, then the reverse must also be true.

Since a black man WAS elected twice as POTUS, racism in the US must no longer a concern.

But please, keep blaming the american public for being deplorable armpit sniffers.

It just lets us know we were right to remove the looney left from their seats in government.

 

Getting owned like this is the point in the thread when they suddenly disappear and then start the exact same thread with slightly different wording a couple of weeks later (or even a couple of days, they have exactly 0 shame, honor or need for consistency of any type... all they care about is the check and the gun barrel that puts it in their mailbox).

To the topic, like most men, I learned the word "slut" from a woman. In over 40 years of adulthood, I've never used it, have never heard a man in my social circle use it outside of extreme situations. Have heard women use it hundreds of times over the years, often out of jealousy that a competitor is extracting resources from a higher value male than she is extracting resources from. In my circles a woman has to do some pretty outrageous behavior to get called a "slut," stuff like pulling a train every week or blowing several men in a night in a bar parking lot. Despite the lie narratives of the Complex/left, there is no meaningful "double standard" any more. Even though studies show women are far more psychologically and emotionally damaged by promiscuity than men, no one really cares any more... outside some traditional religions, LOL.

Have never used "whore" other than colorfully, and almost always to describe A MAN. Same for my extended social circle over decades. In my circles, a woman who sells sex is a "hooker" and always has been.

 

Yeah, obviously, always knew that sexism was behind the McCain/Palin loss.

Spout some more crapola.

 

What??!! It's not that We The People wouldn't vote for a woman POTUS it's THAT woman we didn't want.

 

Just more blind anti left crap, you couldn't address my post:

""The FACT that NO woman has been President or Vice President is proof enough of misogyny, AND/OR sexism, playing a role in who is or who isn't elected..."""

Fewer women run because OF the misogyny and sexism, there have been many women would have made as a good a president as any President so far and to deny that is ingrained sexism...It's believing women just aren't "as good as men"...

Sexism exists whether acknowledged or not...........most sexists can't recognize their own sexism because it's so deeply ingrained...""

 

Perfect example of a righty not being able to address a post with any logic...:

Yes, and people who vote for men because they aren't women are sexist,too.



""It's quite ignorant for anyone to think women can't be misogynists....in fact that is ANOTHER sexist stereotype...

The FACT that NO woman has been President or Vice President is proof enough of misogyny playing a role in who is or who isn't elected..."""






Righties INSIST no women exist who are as good as a man....

 

Do you REALLY think that in a country over 200 hundred years old that hasn't had a female leader no misogyny or sexism exists???

Are you saying there were no women smart enough or good enough ??

Palin did not win because she was a woman she lost because she was a dingbat....

 

Well maybe if criminal Hillary had not stacked the DNC and corrupted the process
of choosing a Democratic candidate, would have done better.
Blame the foundation for corrupting the Democratic process, not the result.
The foundation was Hillary corrupting the DNC.

Face it. Americans did not want another RepubloCratic President.
Without Sanders, Trump was the only way out of the swamp.

Oh and Mary Mellon was not as knowingly complicit for her bad reputation as Hillary was for her bad reputation. Hillary obviously does not "get it". She is very disliked as a liar and a cheater (ref. DNC stacking). Not because she is an ambitious woman. Also too much Wall St. and not enough Mail St economics.


Moi
could have voted for Sanders or Paul
but, never lyin' Hillary.


r > g

Across an immense, unguarded, ethereal border, Canadians, cool and unsympathetic,
regard our America with envious eyes and slowly and surely draw their plans against us.
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Sexism is dumb. Why don't you blame the DNC for being all corrupt and getting caught, causing the glass ceiling not be broken? Most Americans would like to vote for a woman, but she, like every other politician has to inspire people.

 

That is false.

The fact that women help elect leaders and have not elected many women is proof you are wrong.

Yes a woman can be misogynistic but your claim requires nearly all female voters to be misogynistic which is absurd.

Voting for a man and against women is not proof of misogynistic.

Like racism misogyny is so overused and lied about it no longer has much meaning and any accusations of either are massive failures.

 

This election was all about women, and women were the big losers. When the president of our land, Trump speaks up, and says O'Reilly is a "good guy", after sexual misconduct with 5 women, women can only cringe. My wife is now living on another planet.

 

ALLEGED sexual misconduct