Hitler is a product of western mentality

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  1. Anatol73

    Anatol73 New Member

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    [video=youtube;Vj3DGdr0Oso]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vj3DGdr0Oso&feature=player_detailpage[/video]
     
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    Hitler often told about new Rome to be built, Americans often talk "USA - new Rome"... Rome is western dream, but Rome needs slaves, therefore it needs aggressive wars... Afganistan, Libya, Iraq ...
     
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    Hitler is must the shame of the western... I don't think, and, I don't hope, that the western mentality can creat people like that!...
     
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    Frogger Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And Stalin is a product of Russian mentality. If you want to match killings, I think Josef Stalin wins, hands down.
     
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    As a matter of fact Nazism is a product not of mentalities of some concrete nations,it is a natural product of capitalism.Nazism is based on the capitalist principle of competition and of the suppression of the weakers.While liberalism recognises this principle at the level of individuals,Nazism outputs it to the level of nations.I fact fascism is quasi-liberalism.
     
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    All forms of collectivism lead logically and inevitably to tyranny, and Friedrich Hayek used the Soviet Union and Nazi Germany as examples of countries which had gone down "the road to serfdom" and reached tyranny. Hayek argued that within a centrally planned economic system, the distribution and allocation of all resources and goods would devolve onto a small group, which would be incapable of processing all the information pertinent to the appropriate distribution of the resources and goods at the central planners' disposal.

    http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/commandingheights/shared/minitextlo/ess_serfdom.html
     
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    Your statement thrice wrong.
    First. Any form of collectivism is a society.
    Second.Fridrih Hayek is a vulgar writer, it is seen in your example.
    Third. Globalization is - the way the destruction of national heritage,the source of multiculturalism, of paranoia, and slavery (China) and that is the essence of your Friedrich Hayek
     
  8. Caligula

    Caligula Well-Known Member

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    What purpose other than "everything Western is sooo evil and everything Eastern (or shall we say Russian/Soviet) is sooo honourable and human" does the OP have?
    Of course others never fought wars in, let's say, Afghanistan, Georgia, Chechnia. But even if, I bet they weren't "aggressive."
     
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    Yes.LOL
    A partial list of good deeds of good imperialists
    1950-1953. - The war in Korea. In the fighting involved about 350,000 men, 1,000 tanks, over 300 ships. The greater part of troops and military equipment provided the United States.

    April 1961 - the American attempt to invade Cuba in the Bay of Pigs to overthrow the government led by Fidel Castro.

    1965-1973 years. - The war in Vietnam. The largest use of U.S. armed forces after World War II.

    1964-1973 years. - U.S. military attack against the front of the Pathet Lao in Laos. Attended by over 50,000 people.

    October 25, 1983 - June 1985 - U.S. military operation, "Sudden Fury" in Grenada to overthrow left-wing government of the island state.

    April 1986 - after the imposition of economic sanctions, the U.S. took military action against Libya. Bombardment of residential areas were the cities of Tripoli and Benghazi.

    December 1989 - U.S. military operation "Just Cause" in Panama in order to remove from power the country's leader Manuel Noriega, who was accused of drug trafficking and promoting terrorism.

    January 17 - February 28, 1991 - U.S. military operation and its allies to liberate Kuwait from Iraqi occupation, code-named "Desert Storm".

    January 17, 1993 - U.S. launched a missile strike on located approximately 20 miles from the center of Baghdad facility, where an alleged Washington, DC, were working to develop nuclear weapons.

    June 26, 1993 - U.S. launched a missile attack on the main command and control complex in Baghdad, Iraqi intelligence in response to the alleged assassination plots hatched Baghdad, U.S. President George W. Bush.

    September 3, 1996 - United States attacked with cruise missiles on Iraq after Iraqi forces conducted an operation against the Kurds in the region of Irbil in northern Iraq.

    August 20, 1998 - a blow to the "terrorist targets" in Afghanistan and Sudan in response to the terrorist attacks against U.S. embassies in Tanzania and Kenya.
     
  10. SAUER

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    IMHO Hitler was a product of the unfair postwar world system. After WWI the Entente created pretty hard conditions for Germany. And hitler’s regime was just a result of German revanchist sentiments.
    Also western democracies tried to cause a clash between fascist Germany and USSR . They’d been improved adolf’s actions. Take the Munich agreement. In fact French and UK gave him permission to annex Sudetenland. I suppose it was really the beginning of World War II.
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    You didn't really read my post, so why bother commenting.
     
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    The Hitler’actions in Europe had been approved by the western governments. In fact western democracies gave up Austria and Czechia to Adolf.
    They had been told about "peace for our time". But Hitler attacked France, and began bombing UK just a year and a half after Chamberlain’s statement.

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    There were no "western democracies",there were western colonial empires.And they gave Hitler also Spain and Poland.
     
  14. EvilAztec

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    "Germany is defeated, suppressed by the Treaty of Versailles, but Germany has enormous economic potential - the second country in the world according to the degree of economic development, if the first count America .... And this country can not live, being suppressed by the Treaty of Versailles . Germany is one of the most powerful, advanced capitalist countries, it is the Treaty of Versailles can not stand, and Germany should seek an ally against world imperialism, being itself an imperialist . "
    Vladimir Lenin

    The aggressive policy of Nazi Germany affected the interests of other capitalist countries, threatening their positions. The imperialists of Britain, France and the United States, of course, were not going to give them possession of the captured another predator and should take all measures to avert the danger. To this end they sought, first, through a policy of "appeasement" in every possible way to limit the claims of Nazi Germany, as far as possible to keep it under the Treaty of Versailles and, secondly, to direct the fascist aggression in the East - against the USSR.
     
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    Right, and Mao and all the other dictators and emperors over the last few thousand years too.
    It has to do with psychology, all people are the same psychologically, they can all be deceived and their minds can be engineered, this is what politics and television has done over the last half a century. Most people are disconnected from reality because of that.
    Voters are already making the same mistake as the German people did, they kept voting till the bitter end, that was fatal, and today the masses keep voting again (look at Russia, Belgium and France, political process already going into direction of absolute number of votes on a single party, this was how Hitler came to power)
     
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    I was always amazed by the idiocy of such statements.Simple quostiens : Dictators towards whom? Dictators express the interests of what class?No answer.Only fanatic repetition;"dictators,dictators...".
     
  17. Caligula

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    It seems quite obvious that some Stalinists have gathered here to celebrate uncle Josef.
    You guys should take a look at the Political Opinion & Poll section on this board and "discuss" with some of the not-from-this-world US guys, you would have fun, I'm sure.
     
  18. Anders Hoveland

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    Yes, "Hitler" is indeed mostly a product of western mentality — or western imagination rather!
    The REAL Hitler was not the evil monster he is frequently made out to be.

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    did you know Hitler was a vegetarian?
     
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    Negative, pal. i suppose that stalin was just a fing mass murderer like hitler, mao zedong, pol pot, napoleon, western militarists etc.
    i just think that
    And Caligula could you stick to the subject, pls? what do you make of adolf?
     
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    Caesar Caligula the man who was a bloodthirsty killer.There was even a movie about him but with pornographic content.
     
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