Hitler was pro-choice

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  1. SpaceCricket79

    SpaceCricket79 New Member Past Donor

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    http://constitutionalistnc.tripod.com/hitler-leftist/id15.html

    When the Nazis came to power in 1933 one of the first acts Hitler did was to legalize abortion. By 1935 Germany with 65 million people was the place where over 500,000 abortions were being performed each year. Although Hitler and his government encourged Aryan women to produce a lot of children, he left the matter of abortion and all its facets in the hands of a decidely pro- abortion medical establishment. Even in the midst of Nazi propaganda aimed at increasing the Aryan population, scores of Aryan women still chose to abort their unborn children. The medical publication Deutsches Aerzleblatt reported the abortions in Germany each year reached a half-million.

    Further, a Nazi decree of October 19, 1941 established abortion on demand as the official policy of Poland. Hitler, however, expressed dissatisfaction with this policy. Abortion, he believed, should NOT be limited to Poland. He therefore ordered that abortion be expanded to all populations under the control of the "Ministry of the Occupied Territories of the East."

    On July 22, 1942, the Fuhrer exhibited a highly positive attitude towards abortion as an indispensable method of dealing with the non-German populations in countries under Nazi control. "In view of the large families of the native populations," he asserted, "it could only suit us if girls and women there had as many abortions as possible." Hitler also personally announced that he "would personally shoot" any "such idiot" who "tried to put into practice such an order (forbidding abortion) in the occupied Eastern territories.

    Despite contemporary attempts to characterize Hitler as opposed to abortion, the historical evidence clearly and overwhelmingly supports only one possible conclusion: Hitler and his regime were adamantly pro-abortion. To depict Hitler as anti-abortion is a ludicrous as calling him anti-genocide or pro- Jewish. Both Hitler and his government had little regard for human life perceived as subpar, whether born or preborn.
     
  2. Cady

    Cady Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Hitler banned abortion for Aryan women, but was known to force abortion and sterilization for non-Aryan women. IOW, he was against choice.
     
  3. churchmouse

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    He liked Sanger….she was craftier…..she targeted blacks and minorities…….wanted abortion legal…to get rid of those she didn't think deserved to live. She wanted a master race….and it did not include color. Just like Hitler who was pro-choice…..certainly not pro-life.
     
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    He was a self absorbed maniac with a Messia complex.

    He was a dictator....the only free choice was his choice.

    He starved and murdered millions...a hero he was not.
     
  5. Cady

    Cady Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    They didn't like each other. He burned her books. She contributed to keep him from power.

    She helped black women control their reproduction at their request. She was against abortion.

    "From 1943, the provision of abortion to "Aryan" women was threatened with the death penalty.[1][2] On the other hand, abortion was at times forced upon members of parts of society that were considered undesirable."
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion_in_Germany
     
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    MegadethFan Well-Known Member

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    Ok, that's interesting. Hitler was pro-choice.


    SO WHAT?
     
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    MegadethFan Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for clearing that up.
     
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    Ok. So what?
     
  9. Makedde

    Makedde New Member Past Donor

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    Is the OP trying to compare Hitlers regime to the pro choice movement?
     
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    Hitler also liked classical music. Does it mean all classical musicians are evil?

    Fallacious argument is fallacious.
     
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    MegadethFan Well-Known Member

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    I think I speak for most people when I say the OP is going down a path that makes them look far worse than can ever hope to make pro-choice folk look.
     
  12. raymondo

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    Such an absurd Topic imo .

    Therefore -- and seriously --- who knows when and where Hitler visited England ?
    An invasion one man rehearsal ?
    No joke .
     
  13. churchmouse

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    Cady said,

    Sure..Sanger promoted sexual immorality…Hitler did the same. Sanger promoted birth control….as did Hitler. Sanger promoted abortion (especially for those she thought should not breed; blacks and minorities, handicapped etc) and Hitler had the same thoughts. Sanger wanted forced segregation and eugenics….so did Hitler. Both wanted a cleaner and master race…and sought out to do it. Sanger was more successful as she has killed through her work over 50 million children in America alone.

    "We should hire three or four colored ministers, preferably with social-service backgrounds, and with engaging personalities. The most successful educational approach to the Negro is through a religious appeal. We don't want the word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population…"
    Margaret Sanger, Founder of Planned Parenthood

    "Eugenic sterilization is an urgent need ... We must prevent multiplication of this bad stock."
    Margaret Sanger, Founder of Planned Parenthood

    "Eugenics is … the most adequate and thorough avenue to the solution of racial, political and social problems.
    Margaret Sanger, Founder of Planned Parenthood

    "The unbalance between the birth rate of the 'unfit' and the 'fit,' [is] the greatest present menace to civilization… the most urgent problem today is how to limit and discourage the over-fertility of the mentally and physically defective."

    And today…if you did a demographic on where most abortion clinic are…..they are in poor minority neighborhoods. Gee I wonder why?

    And so with Hitler he ran people through the ovens….today through Sangers Planned Parenthood we run women through the abortion mills….both killing machines. If Sanger was against abortion…..then why does PP offer them?
     
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    Cady Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You have an abnormal and unhealthy obsession with a dead woman who was opposed to abortion. How did Sanger kill 50 million children? Can't wait to hear this.

    You don't even care that your quotes are out of context and misattributed, do you?

    Sanger is dead. She no longer controls Planned Parenthood.
     
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    I think they have a lot in common…don't you?

    And I do not have an unhealthy attitude about Sanger. She was an evil woman and will always be associated with abortion and killing through PP. She was also about a lot of the things Hilter was about. If the shoe fits wear it.
     
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    Cady Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    She was evil only to those who think women should have no control over their own reproduction. She opposed abortion and died before it was legalized. You have no regard for the truth.
     
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    Cady Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    None of that answers my question. You claimed Sanger killed 50 million children.
    Did you lie?

    Misattributed. All have been debunked.

    http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Margaret_Sanger
     
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    Even a broken clock is correct twice a day (assuming it is analog and nonmilitary).
     
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    What do they have in common?

    Ok, but are you seriously saying the modern pro-choice movement can be compared in any way to the Nazi regime? If so, in what way?
     

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