Hopeful trend for GOP

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  1. yabberefugee

    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Actually Democrats said we'd be in War with Korea. Think we did a lot better!
     
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    Pycckia Well-Known Member

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    And Trump worked to bring our boys back home from Afghanistan, Syria and Somolia, much to the dismay of Democrats everywhere.
     
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    Trump is as clueless about economics as his average Joe-in-the-street supporter is. "Fair trade," what a laugh, that sounds like something Lefties complain about. The only way to deal with China economically was not through trade wars, but through joining a free-trade organization that explicitly excluded China - like the TPP. That would also have given us leverage over them in foreign policy. But know-nothing Trump shot us in the foot right out the gate by rejecting the TPP.

    If we are going to get out of the business of meddling with other countries, we need to get serious and get out of those countries and those regions. We need to close bases in the ME and elsewhere, and let regional actors chart whatever path forward they want, without our meddling. If we're lucky, the Chinese will replace us in the ME and they can deal with that whole headache!
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Collectivising Healthcare is a goood start.

    Disagree. If we really are that lame.....we deserve it.
     
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    Trump had four years to deliver on the promise of bringing the troops back. This is one thing he could do all by himself. And he failed.
     
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    We only avoided war with Korea because of the intervention of the deep state. Trump by his own actions was setting us direct on a path for war with NK. And his unbelievably stupid coddling of the NK dictator has left us zero room for diplomatic maneuver with that tyrant. Trump has brought war with NK a massive step closer; the people will soon see this for themselves.
     
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    I was a unionized grocery clerk for Von's grocery chain in 1963-64. The base pay was $3.05/hour, time-and-a-half after 6:00 pm, and double-time Sundays and holidays. That $3.05/hour would be $25.69/hour today, and $51.38/hour on Sunday.

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    https://www.bls.gov/data/inflation_calculator.htm

    What do you think a nonunion grocery clerk makes today?
    Real socialism at the nation state level where production is collectivized doesn't work.
    I haven't read @bx4's posts, but I doubt they call for socialism.
     
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    Joe Biden is a lot closer to the political middle in this country than Trump. That's why Joe won.
    Democrats are not going to "defund the police," an idea not even popular in minority communities. There won't be reparations, either. There may be some means-tested student debt forgiveness in the context of help for people to get retraining, the way middle-class folks can stay in the middle if they're put out of work.

    This border security near where I live part of the year was put in before Trump...

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    Propaganda Alert!
     
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    Yes, he wasn't a good President, but on the point of US foreign adventure his instincts were sound.
     
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    Really? That's interesting.

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    Well, if it's all over the internet...........
     
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    Democrats are already defunding the police in some cities and releasing criminals in others. Cash bail has already been eliminated in many places. These actions will drive moderates away.

    Democrats are in favor of reparations. Hopefully, they won't happen. But they are an extreme position which will drive moderates away.
     
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    No one is talking about collectivizing health care.
    Disagree. If we really are that lame.....we deserve it.[/QUOTE]
    Without government support, most Americans couldn't afford health care.

    Read the article from Pew Research.
     
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    You don't think locking up literally millions of people is a bit much?
    No, they aren't.

    "The results were sharply divided along partisan lines, with 80 percent of Republicans saying they’re opposed to reparations while about a third of Democrats said they are supportive. The results were also split among races, with 10 percent of white respondents supporting the idea and half of Black respondents backing it."

    https://thehill.com/homenews/news/504511-1-in-5-supports-reparations-in-new-poll
    LeBron James will have to get by without reparations.
     
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    No, not especially.
    It is a radical proposal by some Democrats which will drive moderates away. There are more extremists in Democrat Party than in the Republicans. Which way will moderates move?
     
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    Reparations aren't going to happen--not with two-thirds of Democrats opposed.
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Deep State my a@#! The Deep State loves War! Why do you think we went into Iraq? Didn't have one thing to do with 9/11! Just an excuse to use weapons and end lives. You always put blame on what you yourself ate doing!
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    With government regulation and support it is a surprise we can afford anything!
     
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    A war the USA already lost.

    We can't even manufacture a simple N95 mask 10 months after a pandemic without China assistance and profit.
     
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    You don't have to compromise your faith. Nor do other people have to yield to it.
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That is 100% correct!! Nor do we compromise with the faithless.
     
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    Fortunately your representatives love them some money changers in the DC temple.
     
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    The democrats are already there.
     
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    I don't argue that. I don't argue that we should leave every region on the planet other than North America. But war isn't in their interests and is an awful way to attempt to solve anything.
     

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