House Spanker Johnson invokes the Law of Unintended Consequences

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  1. Derideo_Te

    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    https://www.vanityfair.com/news/202...ohnson announced,the footage poses a security

    Do NONE of the MAGA supporters of the TRAITOR-in-Chief recall what happened the LAST TIME some of the J6 video footage was released?

    Last time I checked about 1,200 of the J6 insurrectionists who used VIOLENCE to DENY We the People our VOTING RIGHTS have been IDENTIFIED and CHARGED with CRIMES.

    They were IDENTIFIED by matching images of them on J6 footage to images of themselves on social media by citizens who provided information to the FBI Most Wanted tip line.

    Some of the J6 insurrectionists on the ORIGINAL videos have never been identified as of now.

    But House Spanker Johnson RELEASING an additional 40,000 hours will provide vital additional CLUES to the IDENTITIES of those UNIDENTIFIED J6 insurrectionists.

    Betrayal comes in many forms but when it stems from your OWN side that is the Law of Unintended Consequences in action.

    How many Capitol Police officers are going to be EXPOSED as COLLABORATING with the J6 insurrectionists?

    How many Khaos Kaw-Kuss members are going to be EXPOSED as COLLABORATING with the J6 insurrectionists?

    Probably only a handful but if even just ONE of EACH happens then the FULL EXTENT of the J6 Insurrection will come into FOCUS for We the People.

    Something else worth NOTING is that for every criminal INDICTMENT beginning with INMATE P01355809 on down they were BETRAYED by their OWN side. Meadows and Cheesebro might be the most well known but in the LONG list of WITNESSES all of them are either REPUBLICANS or WORKED for republicans.

    And now we have House Spanker Johnson, handpicked by the Khaos Kaw-Kuss, handing over EVIDENCE of J6 Insurrectionists and those who AIDED and ABETTED them. What makes him BELIEVE that this is a "good idea"? I seriously DOUBT that there is anyone around him who DARED to speak up about this being a BAD IDEA.

    Just a matter of time now before that 40k of video starts to yield RESULTS that will be the OPPOSITE of what was intended.

    You can be CERTAIN that if there is ANYTHING that will be DAMAGING to the re-election chances of the Khaos Kaw-Kuss members that will be used against them in the 2014 election.

    It is entirely possible that House Spanker Johnson has just HARMED the last vestiges of any possibility of the Xtofascist controlled GOP retaining control of the HOUSE in 2024. Still too early to make that as a DEFINITIVE call but if that does TRANSPIRE this could well be seen in HINDSIGHT as the TIPPING point.

    So how do YOU feel about this ILL CONCEIVED action on the part of House Spanker Johnson?

    Does someone with such APPALLINGLY bad JUDGMENT deserve to be 3rd in line to the presidency?

    Do you believe that something BENEFICIAL will be REVEALED that will change the entire narrative?

    FTR I am all in FAVOR of the RELEASE of the 40k of video because We the People have a RIGHT to know what happened and putting it out there means that we will be fully INFORMED of what transpired. Generations to come will have that as a WARNING as to what CAN happen when we allow the Xtofascist controlled GOP to take control of our government of We the People.

    What House Spanker Johnson has done was DUMB as dirt POLITICALLY but ultimately in the best interests of We the People IMO.

    How do you feel about what his actions?

    DISCLAIMER: This thread is about House Spanker Johnson's actions and judgement rather than about the videos themselves, which just happen to be the most EGREGIOUS example to date of his INCOMPETENCE.
     
  2. modernpaladin

    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Seems unlikely that fedgov hasn't found everyone that it wants to find after having not only the footage, but an army of professional A/V analysts and the best rendering and facial identification AI that exists, for almost three years.

    Its our turn to look. Good job, Johnson. :beer:

    But by all means, if you think you can find more rioters to report to the feds, I hope you watch all of it.
     
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    YOUR turn to look?

    Are you saying since you already KNOW who all was there you NEVER bothered to watch ANY of the J6 Insurrection footage?

    What was "good" about what Spanker Johnson did?

    How will it HELP him and the Xtofascist controlled GOP win in 2024?
     
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    I've watched some. Clearly some of the folks rioted. And clearly some of the folks were allowed to enter the building by LE, walked around peacefully, and went to prison for 'trespassing.'

    No, I don't know who all was there. How could you possibly construe that from what I said?

    Its good because its the only way to find out for sure whether we've been told the truth or not about what happened. Basically no one believes that if there were federal agents or other LE in among the rioters that instigated the riots, fedgov would tell us so. Everyone knows they would not. And it has happened before. Now we can look for ourselves. Its always better to look for ourselves rather than be told. Always.
     
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    So? Many Republicans, including Trump supporters, have no problem with people being charged for trespassing, rioting and all that so long as what is charged is appropriate for what actually happened and is applied evenly regardless of political affiliation.

    But thanks for showing what you would do for your side. Keep them hidden so that they're not charged with crimes that they commit.

    Frankly I'm glad he released all the footage. At least he's looking out for We the People better than the Dems did.
     
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    Thank you for the clarification.

    I have no problem with the "trust but verify" approach.

    Hypothetically speaking what if those videos shows one or more members of the Khaos Kaw-Kuss aiding and abetting the J6 Insurrectionists by giving them guided tours.

    How would that alter your perception of Spanker Johnson?
     
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    Well theres nothing hypothetical about it- people were allowed inside by LE and walked around, often escorted by LE. If you think they were aiding and abetting, you should file a report with the FBI or something. But I guarantee you, they already know.

    And it doesn't alter my perception at all. When it comes to the govt, sunlight is ALWAYS the best disinfectant.
     
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    I will put you down as being in favor of Spanker Johnson and we can revisit this if and when there is any negative consequences.
     
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    Lets get something clear right up front.
    I seriously doubt many conservatives would think it a bad thing to identify anyone who broke the law on January 6.

    Whether they were identified as a result of facial recognition software use in some deep corner of the United States intelligence community, or identified because Aunt Judy in Iowa was perusing the videos released by speaker Johnson and spotted her nephew Bubba from Arkansas stealing then speaker Pelosi's beer from her office refrigerator.
    I, for one, want to Identify those vermin and hold them accountable.

    Now.
    People, this is OUR government. They exist and govern because we give them permission. When OUR government finds a reason to hide the events of January 6 from us, feeding us only what they want us to see, we have a problem.
    A serious problem.
    The problem is that OUR government has slipped the leash and decided they know better than we do what is good for us.
    What we need to know.
    What we need to do about it.
    What we should be thinking.

    Those videos are ours, and we have every right in the world to see them and comment on them and, especially, compare them to what the Nancy Antoinette star chamber people edited and then fed to us during their prime-time circus show.

    And when (if) the comparison of the raw videos and the prime-time videos they fed to us shows that the committee tried to feed us a pack of lies, to convict in the court of public opinion the President of the United States for crimes he did not commit, then we will know who the real traitors are.
    Who the real enemies of America are.
    Who really needs to be charged with insurrection, and treason, and usurping our laws.

    Now it may happen that after viewing the videos we'll realize that the star chamber did it's job properly and ethically and Trump is indeed the enemy of America. I don't think so. But if that's the case, then the truth won out and that is all we can ask.

    But I don't think so. I don't think so because the star chamber bunch has been hiding and (it now turns out) destroying evidence they gathered during their moment in the spotlight. And the question always is, where evidence is hidden or destroyed, "What are you hiding there? What don't you want us to see?"
    And it is never, ever proof of what they claim. At best it's confusing evidence, but almost always it's evidence that disproves their case. Evidence that exposes their treason.

    And when we're talking about the President of the United States and whether he's a crazed wannabe dictator that came within a whisker of pulling off a coup, or a patriot hounded by traitors he's trying to expose, we damn well better see the evidence, all of the evidence, so we can decide for ourselves who is right and who we string up.

    But either way, those videos (and all of the other evidence the star chamber gathered) belong to us, we have the right and the duty to see for ourselves and judge for ourselves.
     
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    Uh yea, that's why we elected them.
     
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    It should all be released.
     
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    Were those the people who have been charged? Btw if you find the grub that rubbed “poo poo” into the walls please tell someone
     
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    Including the video of the concealed passageways meant to protect congress people? You know I bet the ones really trawling through this is Hamas and every anti American terrorist group
     
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    I recall the guy that took a dump on Pelosi's desk was already convicted. Jacob Chansley was charged and served a year or so in prison before being released early immediately after the footage of him being peacefully escorted around by LE was broadcast on Tucker Carlson's show. I doubt he's the only one who's been identified. As for charged, what would you charge them with, for walking around inside a building with LE?
     
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    I'm sure the MIC warmongers would enjoy nothing more than an actual armed attack on the capitol, but there wouldn't be anything to be gained by it. Besides, there's easier ways of finding stuff like out than trying to piece it together from security footage that (assuming a competent security designer) would be designed to prevent precisely that.

    It should all be released.
     
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    Every bit of information is important. But if a lightly armed mob could stop congress then what would a heavily armed mob do?
     
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    It wouldn't 'stop' congress, and a minor delay isn't going to collapse civilization. Thats why I say there isn't anything to be gained by it. No one is going make a suicide attack against the capitol to delay congress from voting for a little while...
     
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    It did disrupt the business of the day ergo stopped it and this has been a finding of the court/s - as for “suicide attacks” have you never heard of people strapping bombs to themselves? And the motivation does not have to make sense - I mean why were the Jan 6ers there?
     
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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacob_Chansley

     
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    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/mike-johnson-donald-trump_n_655cc47de4b0c91d827894cd

    And so the UNRAVELING begins...with the #1 goto tool in the Xtofascist toolbox...CONSPIRACY THEORIES!

    LOL!
     
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    The goal was not a "minor delay". The goal was to stop the certification of Biden as President. The fact that it failed does not negate the fact that the goal was to stop Biden from becoming President.
     
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    To protest a fraudulent election, of course.
     

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