How abortions increase the risk of breast cancer

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  1. Bowerbird

    Bowerbird Well-Known Member

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    A) Can you imagine giving up one of your children never to see them again? How do you think that would affect YOU?

    B) already proved that abortion does NOT increase the risk of breast cancer

    C) just repeating a falsehood does not make it real or true
     
  2. Otter

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    What REAL studies? And yet again - you FAIL at basic biology. You are a mother once you conceive a child. And there certainly ARE proabortionists - those whose concern is that abortion is not restricted, no matter what.

    And THIS is a 10 week old fetus (unborn baby):

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    And a 10 week old aborted fetus (unborn baby):

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  3. Bowerbird

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    Not really - done early enough it is little more stressful than menses
     
  4. Otter

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    Affect me? Abortion, the violence within the womb, certainly would affect me - and kill my child.

    Abortion CERTAINLY increases the risk of breast cancer - as explained before:

    The facts related to the disruption of the differentation process (by abortion) leading to a vast increase in cancer-vulnerable type 1 & 2 lobules remain indisputable.
     
  5. Bowerbird

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    And that is two weeks older than is usual for abortions.

    The vast majority of abortions occur less than 8 weeks gestation
     
  6. Otter

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    You either are ignorant of the facts, or deliberately misleading. Either way you are promoting great harm to women.

    "Breast cancer is the greatest cancer killer among American women between the ages of 20 and 59. The incidence of cancer climbed 40% in the last quarter of the 20th Century (since Roe v. Wade legalized abortion in the United States in 1973), while the incidence for all other cancers has either remained the same or declined."

    ["Breast Cancer Numbers Up, But US Cancer Deaths Drop," Reuters, June 5, 2001]

    How can the proabortionists justify withholding this information from women considering abortion?
     
  7. Otter

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    First off - I was correcting 'Granny's misleading information about a 12 week old fetus...when what the picture is of teaspoon.

    Secondly - this is a picture of an 7.5 week old fetus - as you wish:

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    http://www.ehd.org/prenatal-images.php?thum_id=477
     
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    LOL, you think posting those blown-up pictures is gonna fool anybody? Don't you really think a blueberry sized embryo will fit in a tablespoon?

    Please note: 7 weeks
    http://www.babycenter.com/6_your-pregnancy-7-weeks_1096.bc

    Your baby has doubled in size since last week and now measures half an inch long, about the size of a blueberry.
     
  9. Otter

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    But Grannie - you claimed a 12 week old fetus would fit in a teaspoon!

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    Does this 3 inch long (from top of head to base of spine) unborn baby look like s/he will fit in a teaspoon?

    I guess it depends on how mangled his body gets - or if you get all of his body parts...
     
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    More reading comprehension problems? See the picture below? What are the numbers in the picture? (Hint: it's the same picture as above). Now please point out the post in which I said a 12 week old fetus would fit in a teaspoon.....Did you make a mistake or was it a brazen lie?

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    35 millilitres is equivalent to 2.37 tablespoons
     
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    So, now your strategy is to ignore the mountain of evidence linking stress to cancer (at least as far as it concerns the stress which can be incurred as a result of having a child for which one is unable to adequately care and support), and to keep repeating the same dead line of reasoning, over and over and over again, as if repetition might somehow magically resurrect it.

    It won't. Your "abortion causes cancer" spiel is mooted by the fact that NOT obtaining an abortion can result in a level of stress which may also lead to cancer. The thing to do now is STOP REPEATING YOUR DEAD ARGUMENT!! It makes you look foolish.
     
  12. Otter

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    Why don't you care about the women who contract breast cancer from abortions?

    Study Shows 'Best Predictor of Breast Cancer'

    Carroll, P. The breast cancer epidemic: modeling and forecasts based on abortion and other risk factors." J Am Phys Surg Vol. 12, No. 3 (Fall 2007) 72-78. Available at: http://www.jpands.org/vol12no3/carroll.pdf
     
  13. Colonel K

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    There is no such link. Your wishing it were so does not make the claim any less false.
     
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    These women are going to get them any. Its our own fault, because the same people who want no abortion don't believe in the necessary state run programs to make sure these children will be properly cared for. A lot of the women who get abortions are scared, I think its wrong that they do it, but its also wrong that they are put in such a scary position. Socialism is the answer to abortion.
     
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    And now we arrive at the inevitable "appeal to emotion" fallacy.

    "Well, don't cha even care?" :tears:

    Of course, I could say the same thing about your willful disregard for the women who contract breast cancer from being overstressed by the plight of having children for whom they cannot adequately care and support...

    ...but this is getting tedious.
     
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    The claim that a woman can contract breast cancer from an abortion is an outrageous lie.
     
  18. Otter

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    Denial of facts does not change the reality:

    Induced abortion as an independent risk factor for breast cancer: a comprehensive review and meta-analysis.

     
  19. Colonel K

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    Your denial of reality does not change the fact that you broadcast lies.
     
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    Otter,

    There is NO denial of facts as you claim. You are quoting unscientific results that have never been subjected to peer review. This drivel is used by anti-free choice people who want to control the reproductive capability of every women. They use questionable data, and outright lies.

    I suspect you too have been duped by these people.
     
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    You forget that lifers are allowed to scare the crap out of naive women in order to push their agenda.

    I am still waiting on some non biased links, Otter.
     
  22. Otter

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    I only post sound scientific information, unlike the proabortionists.

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3eUVjnhs1c&feature=player_embedded"]PP war on science[/ame]
     
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    You ignored a link from the American Cancer Society (or whatever it was) I guess you think they are not a reputable source?
     
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    Medical Elite Privately Say Abortion Causes Breast Cancer, but It’s ‘Too Political’ to Discuss Publicly

    In a lawsuit filed against Planned Parenthood Federation of American in California Superior Court for falsely advertising the alleged safety of abortion, Angela Lanfranchi, M.D., a New Jersey breast surgeon, declared under oath that members of the nation’s medical elite are aware that abortion causes breast cancer. However, they refuse to say so publicly because it is ‘too political.’ She said to the court:

    "In September 1999 I wrote a letter to the president and each of the board members of my medical society, the American Society of Breast Surgeons. My letter … said that doctors… need to get this information (about abortion and breast cancer) to the public, and asked that an expert be invited to address the Society on this issue. Some time later I called the president, Dr. Rachel Simmons, and she told me, apologetically, that she presented it to the board but they felt it was 'too political.'

    "In March 2000 I attended the Miami Breast Cancer Conference…. I asked the conference director, Dan Osman, M.D. if he knew there was a link between abortion and breast cancer. I was stunned when he said that he did. I asked him why there couldn't be a presentation about it at the meeting. He said it was 'too political.'

    "Over the past three or four years, I have spoken with many authorities and people in a position to be well informed. Some have been straightforward and said they know it is a risk factor but felt it was 'too political' to speak about. Others have been evasive…. Some have been openly hostile…. Some initially hostile doctors … debated it with me and have changed their minds. Some pro-choice doctors have come to agree it is true and do tell their patients about the risk. Some doctors who were initially skeptical have started obtaining a complete reproductive history on their patients and found as I did that … cases of breast cancer in young women are associated with an abortion history…." (Bernardo et al. v. Planned Parenthood Federation of America et al.)

    Women are dying for 'political correctness'. A Report to the Nation on the Status of Cancer for the period 1973 to 1998 from the National Cancer Institute and other agencies reveals that an increasing incidence of breast cancer could be observed starting in 1987 - 14 years after the legalization of abortion. A graph provided by the report's authors, figure 3, clearly shows that the more than 40% increase in breast cancer rates since 1987 was sustained solely by the youngest of three generations - the Roe v. Wade generation.

    [Howe HL, Wingo PA, Thun MJ, Ries LA, Rosenberg HM, Feigal EG, Edwards BK. Annual report to the nation on the status of cancer, 1973 through 1998, featuring cancers with recent increasing trends. J Natl Cancer Inst 2001;93:824-842.]
     
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    This might help put the studies quoted into context:
    http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/factsheet/Risk/abortion-miscarriage

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15051280?dopt=Abstract

    In other words, some studies didn't take into account that women are less likely to lie about having an abortion, when they have breast cancer and are looking for all possible causes. I can't blame any woman for underreporting abortions when parts of society call her a murderer.
     

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