How does it feel to be racist?

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  1. Sadistic-Savior

    Sadistic-Savior New Member Past Donor

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    Even if that is true, it does not matter. Because what I already said is also true. The majority of agree with the "liberals" on this issue. So nothing is being imposed. They are getting what they want.

    It is only the minority that is having anything imposed on it. And that is how it should be. That is how democracy works.

    LOL!

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_r...and_Black_Power_Movements_Period:_1955_-_1977

    Then we agree that as of right now, the vast majority of white people do not agree with you.
     
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    When I said 'imposed' I meant imposed on the nation as a whole not on any particular party or group....political correctness crosses the political aisle in Washington.....very little difference between democrats and pc republicans.

    However the White Working Class being without representation in Washington had no desire to see all these democrat social programs put into law...it was done without their consent. Thus it was forced upon them and now we all see the results...the destruction of the White Working Class....the traditional American Middle Class.

    The majority of White Americans do agree with me....The White Working Class is the largest class in America.

    That is the class the pc republicans want to ignore and have ignored...Reagan duped a lot of them into joining the republican party (so called Reagan democrats)to their detriment...ya know Reagan the guy who destroyed the American Labor Movement.

    All the republicans have ever given the White Working Class is lip service...unfortunately we did have a great potential leader but when he was gunned down by pc republican operatives The White Working Class has been lost and wandering in the desert.

    As we speak--a great battle is shaping up for the heart and soul of the Republican Party...if the liberals/pc moderates win out....the republican party will endure until the next election which they will lose again...at that point they will no longer be able to deceive anyone...and that party will be history.

    On the other hand if the Real Conservatives can gain control of the republican party apparatus and come up with a candidate that will inspire the White Working Class then this country does have a good chance of surviving.
     
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    Racism isn't necessarily about hate. That's just a negative spin progressive academicians and the liberal media have put on it.

    Sometimes one has to hold to their convictions when they believe it is the truth and the right thing, even when their beliefs are constantly demonized by the outside.
     
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    There is much confusion about Hatred.....like most things there are different kinds of 'Hatred'....the concept of 'Righteous Hatred' is a Biblical Concept................


    "I have set before you an open door, and no man can shut it: for you have a little strength, and have kept My Word, and have not denied My Name . . ."

    Dear Saints,

    Joyous Greetings in the Matchless Love of YahShua!

    The following is a study on Hatred vs Love from an Hebraic Perspective as opposed to our Western Gentile English mindset of thinking. This study is not intended to be exhaustive, but to lead you into all Truth as Yah places on your heart to study this topic out:

    1. Psalm 5:5 - The foolish shall not stand in Your sight, You hatest ALL workers of iniquity (those who stand against the Torah of Moshe).

    2. Psalm 139:21-22 - Do not I hate them, O YHVH, that hate you? And am not I grieved with those that rise up against You? I hate them with perfect hatred: I count them my enemies.

    3. Romans 10:9 Let love be without dissimulation, Abhor that which is evil, cleave to that which is good.

    There is a type of "love WITH DISSIMULATION" that prevails in the jezebel controlled Messianic movement, Christians and American culture in general. This "false or dissumulative love" is one that says hating people is wrong.

    Now, hear me out. You may instantly REJECT what I am saying by thinking, "But Daniel, YahShua PLAINLY says for us to LOVE our enemies! To do good to them who do evil to us! Yah says he LOVES!"

    Yes, indeed, but you cannot define this love as the western-Gentile english people do, and the dissumalitive "false" love that so many cling to.

    Hereby we know what LOVE is -- that we KEEP His commandments.

    Righteous HATRED of individuals and people is an attribute of TRUE HEBRAIC Love.

    We are not talking about a Stalin or a Hitler hatred. A hatred rooted in selfishness.

    We are talking about a zealousness for Yah's Torah to the extent, that we MUST BURN WITH HATRED toward ALL who would willfully reject and oppose Maschiach's BEAUTIFUL Instructions. Indeed, we hate them with such intensity, knowing that these people are at war with the Awesome Creator, that we will manifest this hatred toward them through Holy Spirit controlled words, that they might fear Yah, humble themselves and repent.

    This righteous hatred was not only displayed by King David, but also by Messiah YahShua Himself in Matthew 23, and in the two accounts of Him driving out the money changes from the Temple with a whip.

    In my personal life, this righteous hatred is directed at religous hypocrites who should know better, in addition to being used on campus to cut through a spirit of pride in the crowd, if the Ruach leads.

    Righteous hatred is so disgusted with the breaking of Torah, it cannot help but identify and reject those who are in willful rebellion to the Creator. It is an utter abhorance to the righteous when men and women apathetically transgress the Torah.

    This righteous hatred is actually an ATTRIBUTE of true LOVE. To "love" our enemies can mean to display righteous hatred, even as David wrote about under the inspiration of the Ruach ha Kadosh in Psalm 139.

    To "do good" to our enemies and to "bless" our enemies, may in fact be to display this attribute of true love if Yah leads.

    Keep in mind, we are NOT talking about the wicked and evil zealots of America who justify murdering baby butchers in abortion mills. There is a whole group of wicked religous hypocrites who do not have the Ruach ha Kadosh and thus misapply the doctrine of righteous hatred completely.

    When righteous hatred is displayed, IT IS ALWAYS A DIRECTING AND LEADING FROM THE RUACH, STRAIGHT FROM THE THRONE ROOM OF YAH.

    In our western, Gentile, english world we think of love and hate as opposites.

    In the Hebraic mindset: Righteous hatred is an attribute, a quality of true Biblical Love.

    There is a evil hatred discussed in the scriptures. That is beyond the scope of this study for now.

    In Messiah and by His Torah,

    Daniel J. Lee
     
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    That is how democracy works. The majority get to impose on the minority.

    No matter how unfair you think that is, the reverse of that is worse.

    When did the white working class elect you as their spokemodel? How did you determine what they do or do not want?

    So why have they not elected any politicians supporting your position? If they represent such a large portion of the population, you would think we'd see at least a FEW politicians supporting your view.

    How can you be a victim when you are a majority?
     
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    You are right.

    But it is usually about hate. Because racists want something that everyone else does not want to give them. And that causes them to be bitter and hateful.

    And for good reason. Because hateful racists are the norm, not the exception. Most people who are racist are also hateful of other races to varying degrees.

    You are fortunate to live in a society that allows that. If racists were the ones in power, I doubt they would be so generous.
     
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    Very simple actually.....the democratic party is for the minorities and the republican party is for the rich....Thus the White Working Class has essentially been without representation, without a real voice and at the mercy of the two parties since back when they were abandoned by the democratic party.

    The White Working Class fled to the republican party(the Reagan democrats)but have got essentially nothing but lip service from the republican party....now there is a battle going on within the republican party between the pc/liberal/moderate republicans and the true conservatives....I expect the pc set to remain in control.

    Thus ....if the Republican party continues to consider the White Working Class as little more than a step child....the only hope for the White Working Class is to form their own party...but they are so clueless, so politically naïve and so uninvolved in the political process I really do not see that happening...but I could be surprised...as deteriorating conditions may finally motivate them to abandon their obsession with sports and get involved in politics.
     
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    they don't deserve representation. they have been repubs for decades now an obviously are too stupid to see which side their bread is buttered on
     
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    I do not think they are stupid...they just got complacent and too arrogant thinking the good life would continue....I would say they are more arrogant than stupid...believing all they had to do to keep the American Dream alive was to go to work every day, go to Church on Sunday and obey the law and root for their favoritie team...yes they are or have been clueless...but they may be waking up...reality is dawning on everyone...but it is a big jump for many to get involved in politics.

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    What Do People think about Racial Relations...Better or Worse?

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    Every sentence you spew forth here is heaped in inaccuracies, hypocrisies and exaggerations. When has the Republican party been for the rich? And what exactly does it mean to be a part of a party who is for the rich? Does that mean I'm associated with a party that is against the poor simply because I'm a Republican or a Conservative? Perhaps it means I'm for the rich because I strive to emulate them for their tenacity in becoming rich or in becoming self starters on the road to a productive and successful lifestyle. And this claim that the democrats are for the minorities or for the poor is bogus, since its been proven without a shadow of doubt that Conservatives give more freely and give much more $$ toward charities then do the stingy hypocritical democrat leftists. Oh, the dems play a great game by telling everyone they're for the poor and the minorites, but the facts and the realization of failed liberal policies via big govt tell a different story all together.

    What are you talking about here? While you admit that the majority of the WHITE working class are Republicans, you nonethelss slam the Republican Party for what.....for not giving them some of those liberal benefits that come from Uncle Sam. There isn't a WHITE working class Republican that is complaining that their Party isn't doing enough for them. Any and all complaints that the White working class have are conjured up by useless democraps so as to to cause even more friction. A working class democrap is an oxymoron in itself.

    Where do you come up with such nonsense? Again, the working class people are the Republican Party; there is no division between rich Republicans, rich Republican politicians and working class Republicans, no matter how hard you try to make it seem so.
     
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    It is always the pc repoublicans that get so upset with me. heh heh Now why is that? Simply because I push their buttons---they are so wrapped up in their cozy little agenda of smaller government and lower taxes for the rich they do not want to hear the truth>>>>http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/how-the-gop-became-the-party-of-the-rich-20111109

    It is fellows like the above that are keeping the democrats in Washington...by refusing to consider the political reality that lost them the last two elections. They keep nominating moderate pc republicans like McCain and Romney and they keep losing and they still do not get it as this poster above so aptly shows.

    Now they are buying the media spin that they lost because they didn't get enough minority votes....when the reality is that the real reason they lost is that they did not get enough of the White Working Class Vote. Too many either voted for Obama or stayed home.

    Now I would agree with this fellow that the democrats have not really helped the poor negroes.....but politics is perception and the republicans are fighting another losing battle if they think they can ever persuade the miniorities of that fact. Yet you will see them try..you will see them nominate a minority candidate next time...erroneously believing (because the media told them so)that will somehow help them.....absolutely ridiculous but they really believe that crap.

    The majority of the White Working Class are republican and the majority voted for Romney...more out of not wanting to vote for Obama than anything else though.

    Yet....Obama got enough White Working Class votes to win....the Republicans in order to win must get a 'huge majority' of the White Working Class Vote to win....like how the blacks vote enmasse for the democrats.

    If the republicans keep nominating liberal/moderates of a pc persuasion they will never get the numbers of White Working Class Votes they need and if they insist on going down that path they might as well dissolve the party right now because it will be over after the next election....everyone will finally see they are absolutely out of touch and there is absolutely no hope for them any longer.

    If this fellow thinks the White Working Class is happy with the Republican Party he really needs to study up....as we speak there is a struggle going on between True Conservatives and the liberal element of the party for control of the republican party...as I have said before...most likely the liberal segment of the party will retain control because they have the big bucks....and this time they will definitely go with a minority candidate...they will be looking hard for a black guy but they will settle for a Rubio or the fellow from Lousiana or some other minority person that will promise low taxes for the rich and smaller government....aka a Uncle Tom.

    Also...do not think just because you will nominate a minority guy that will absolve you of the racist label...the republican party has been branded racist....and it will not be able to escape that branding.....they is a big reason why the pc republicans hate me so much...because I am proud of my racism....they stupidly believe that if they condemn racists and keep denying they are racist that will somehow absolve them of racism in the eyes of the electorate....just another pipe dream and another indicator they are divorced from todays political reality.

    One final thing.....tell me one thing the Republican Party has ever done for the White Working Class?
     
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    You have no way of knowing any of that. You are projecting personal opinion as if it were objective fact. The richest people in Congress are not Republicans.

    Then that means the "white working class" (as you define them) are not really a majority.

    That, or they simply do not agree with you. You are making the assumption that they do not really support the Republicans or Democrats. You have no way of knowing that. It is an assumption you are making.
     
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    So explain to me why the rich want everyone to have guns?
    And why do all the minorities want the government to have a monopoly on the means of force?
     
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    I was banned on one pc republican message board for even using the term 'White Working Class'---I would maybe have expected it from a liberal board...but it is the pc republicans who hate me the most.

    http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/09/everything-you-think-you-know-about-white-working-

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    For one, they created the WHITE working class. For two, they are the party that makes sure the WHITE working class have jobs and that they keep them while fighting the leftist unions and the leftist policies that are aimed at strangling them financially. For three, they are the party that gives the working class a chance at progressing in their particular field(s) via promotions and workcase incentives etc. Wait, I thought this posting was about those having racist intentions. What level of a racist do you see yourself as being?
     
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    And you have never met even one person who loves humanity and obeys Jesus's teaching to love all?

    Not one person?


    I post on several websites but this one has got to be the worse in the entire internet. All you see is repeated hate with nobody ever offering solutions to the problems in this society. The only reason why I bother to post is to force right wing delusionals to see their own faults and to dispel the lies and hate they spew here every day.

    But in the end, the TRUTH will win out.
     
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    Force right wing delusionals? Wow, what exactly are these right wingers delusional about? And other than the fact that we're all all mortals and as such we are all sinners (have our faults), could you give us an example or examples of right wing lies and hate of people? Methinks you would find your answers to those questions with further examination of anyone having a leftist or progressive persuasion.

    But in the end, the TRUTH will win out.[/QUOTE]
     
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    ^ another example of hate filled right wing delusionalism

    Small wonder why these **********s lost the election.


    And that's the TRUTH.
     
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    How does it feel to be racist?

    Well, African Americans are racist against whites. Blacks in America are the happiest people on the globe. So for them, being racist feels pretty good.
     
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    pc republoican propaganda and not even good propaganda..........Now for some real truth>>>>>>>By Nicholas Stix on March 22, 2013 at 11:28pm


    here’s my personal testimony that the white working class in America is in trouble—which this proposed amnesty and increased workplace competition can only exacerbate.

    Four weeks ago, I saw a local contractor doing recovery work in my neighborhood in New York’s Rockaways. An old, bald Irishman, he was running a bulldozer or similar rig, clearing out one of the storefronts that had burned down between Beach 113th and Beach 115th Street in Rockaway Park the night of October 29, when Hurricane Sandy hit. All of the other contractors had been from out of state.

    I remarked on how he was the first local guy I’d seen. We exchanged waves.

    The company was called Concannon, and was located nearby, in Breezy Point, the affluent gated community at the western tip of The Rockaways, overwhelmingly Irish (and accordingly recently smeared by the New York Times) which got hit the worst by Sandy. [New York Times Slimes Hurricane Sandy Victim Neighborhood as “Apartheid” for Being Too White, By Daniel Greenfield, FrontPageMag, February 20, 2013 ]

    The driver (Concannon himself?), had a couple of workers—little, chubby, brown-skinned guys.

    There are plenty of young blue collar Irishmen and Italians with strong backs in this area. Why couldn’t he have hired a couple of them? Where was his loyalty?

    In fact, since the Sandy crisis, I have not seen any white, New York workingmen doing repair work in my Rockaway neighborhood. Most of the workers were Hispanic “immigrants” a.k.a illegals with a couple of black West Indians sprinkled in.

    Many of my neighbors get their lawns mowed by a man named Castellano. Nice Italian name. Except that Castellano hires only Hispanic “immigrants.”

    Black propagandist Ta-Nehisi Coates recently pulled a racial profiling hoax in the pages of the New York Times. [The Good, Racist People, March 7, 2013]

    Coates implied that some racist white worker in a deli in his Manhattan neighborhood near Columbia University had racially profiled actor Forrest Whitaker.

    I’ve lived in New York City since August, 1985 and though I’ve bought stuff in Manhattan delis hundreds of times, only once can I recall being served by a white worker (downtown, about 20 years ago).

    And, indeed, a Manhattan-based friend of my VDARE.com colleague Steve Sailer confirmed that the deli in question, Milano Market, had no white employees.

    That’s what it means to be white and working class in New York today—you get refused work and blamed for the crimes of non-whites.

    This is not a recent development.

    Back in the mid-to-late 1980s when I attended grad school at CUNY, although I was officially on a “full ride” through a fellowship (at its height, $6,000, less $2,000 for tuition), I used to run out of money every spring semester, and have to disappear from classes, scrounging for work.

    I learned the hard way that, between Affirmative Action and ethnic nepotism, if you were a white man, and neither well-to-do nor well-connected, many workplaces would never consider you for full-time work. (My personal doctor, who died in 1990, may she rest in peace, used to tell me, “You’re a writer. You need a civil service job!”)

    During the late 1980s or early ‘90s, I interviewed for a job at a drug counseling agency. The interview was a group situation, and the interviewer, who if memory serves was Hispanic, told me in front of the other candidates that he would never consider me for the job, because I was white. He clearly felt he had nothing to fear.

    And he was right.

    Getting hired wasn’t always much better. Already in the late 1980s, New York’s “voluntary” (private) social work agencies hired mostly, even overwhelmingly, blacks and Hispanics—and some white females; but almost no white men.

    The workplace was hostile—to white men. A Black female screamed racial epithets (“I’ll kick your white ass”) in front of a white female Irish-American director, who suddenly became deaf, dumb, and blind. Another assaulted me in front of a suddenly blind black female supervisor.

    White females, Jewish and gentile alike, would act as if I were invisible. The only time I ever saw a supervisor tell a race-baiting worker to lay off me, the supe was a black woman.

    For whatever reason—Political Correctness, social pressure, Corporate’s fear of litigation—white bosses in New York City would go out of their way to discriminate against whites in hiring, instead filling their workplace with blacks and Hispanics who hated the bosses’ guts. And there would be no troupe of loyal white workers to back them up.

    I saw some of this up close while teaching college in 1997-1998, when I moonlighted as a security guard at the Toys ‘R Us store on Sixth Avenue and West 34th Street—then the world’s biggest toy store.

    The store director, whom I’ll call David, was a tough-talking Jew. (I guess this was to make him sound working class, which he was not.) Outside of one of his assistant directors, a short, chubby blonde of about 30, he did not hire any whites. (The other AD was a tall, slender, Hispanic woman about the same age.) The only other white employee I can recall, out of 100 or so, was a pleasant, tall, thin lady cashier who was hitting 60, and had been there forever.

    One day, two black workers about 20 years old were malingering. One worker, whom I’ll call Dakwon, was explaining the black-on-black crime problem to his buddy, regarding Gov. George Pataki and Mayor Rudy Giuliani: “They makin’ us kill each other.”

    David came by and greeted them. As soon as he’d passed by, Dakwon continued: “They go another one.”

    Did David fire Dakwon for malingering, and stirring up racial animosity all day long? Not exactly: he promoted him to supervisor.

    And Dakwon was not unusual for Toys ‘R Us. On the weekends, which was when I typically worked there, the young black workers would hide out from the customers all morning, listening to music on a radio in the bicycle department.

    Back in 1987, a Hispanic acting supervisor at New York City Technical College said of the black women he supervised: “I can’t get any work out of them.” He said he had a mortgage to pay, and so he didn’t make any waves.

    During the early-to-mid 1990s, I observed one chain store after another on the Ladies’ Shopping Mile that had apparently enacted an unwritten rule forbidding the hiring of white workers: Bed, Bath, and Beyond, Barnes & Noble, Staples, Toys ‘R Us, etc. In Barnes & Noble, virtually all of the customers would be white, but virtually none of the workers. But all of these businesses were owned by whites.

    Circa 1995, I stopped giving my money to any of the chain stores on the Mile.

    And, alas, my doctor was behind the times. Nowadays, most public agencies in New York pursue the same unwritten anti-white policy at every level—city, county, state, federal. Enter an office, and you see a sea of non-white, above all, black and Hispanic faces.

    Joe Kearney, the veteran New York City fireman who funded Merit Matters, and who blogs at Working-Class Conservative, reports on city agencies that are anywhere from 61-78 percent black.

    During the early 1990s, the Transit Authority had 52 station managers, only two of whom were white men. (For a time, the TA tactfully removed the pictures of the managers.)

    Whites are being cleansed from almost every imaginable position in New York: subway station cleaners, conductors, motormen, track repairmen, TA bus drivers, token clerks, school security guards, teacher aides, store security guards.

    In the light of such policies, the claim by federal Judge Nicholas Garaufis that the New York Fire Department is permitting “disparate impact” for not hiring blacks based on their proportion of the population, rather than based on merit, is transparently dishonest.

    Like other leftists, Garaufis selectively cries “disparate impact,” when he sees whites in the majority—but ignores it where blacks and/or Hispanics predominate.

    The dispossession of the white working class began as a response by ruling elites to black insurrection a.k.a. the Civil Rights movement. However, I believe there is often more to it.

    That “more” is class hatred.

    A few years ago, I attended meetings of a Manhattan libertarian group. At one, a respected libertarian economist made the usual specious arguments in support of Open Borders—such as the average amount of space per American resident, in contrast to cramped Britain—refusing to deal with the social and environmental costs of mass immigration.

    But one audience member drew especially warm support from the crowd when he asserted that it was morally wrong for the government to say that he didn’t have the right to “contract” with a Mexican national in Mexico to cross the border to work for him.

    Talking the same way that businessmen used to speak of union workers, audience members expressed sheer hatred towards American workers, whom they said supported immigration and labor laws as “protectionism” in order to bid up their wages.

    As far as they were concerned, American citizens qua citizens had no rights.

    For these people, libertarianism wasn’t really about philosophical principles, but merely a rationalization of rich people’s right to get richer at ordinary Americans’ expense.

    Similarly, some libertarians are now so openly hostile towards the American working class that they would prefer that jobs get sent to Communist China, rather than stay here.

    A classic example: libertarian Katherine Mangu-Ward [Email her] supported an ironing board company that was owned by the Communist Chinese state and engaged in an illegal dumping scheme (PDF), selling under cost, in order to put an American firm out of business, at which point it would have raised prices.


    Econ 101 aside, though, there's a more compelling moral reason to condemn this kind of tariff…Jobs lost at home are usually jobs created elsewhere, typically in poorer countries. If anything, jobs are likely to be gained when an industry moves to China, where more aspects of the manufacturing and assembly process are done by hand. They just won't be created here. If that's your focus, you have to make the case that American jobs are intrinsically better or more valuable than Chinese jobs.

    [The Last Ironing Board to Die for a Mistake, By Katherine Mangu-Ward, The Atlantic, June 23, 2010.]

    Well, yes—I do think American jobs are “intrinsically better or more valuable.”

    My VDARE.com colleague Edwin Rubenstein has for years charted immigration’s dispossession of American workers in their own country.

    Whatever happens over this latest Amnesty sellout, American labor unions have totally failed to protect the working class.

    But, at the risk of sounding like a Marxist, white American workers are going to have to organize to pursue their interests…or die.

    Nicholas Stix [email him] is a New York City-based journalist and researcher, much of whose work focuses on the nexus of race, crime, and education. He spent much of the 1990s teaching college in New York and New Jersey. His work has appeared in Chronicles, The New York Post, Weekly Standard, Daily News, New York Newsday, American Renaissance, Academic Questions, Ideas on Liberty and many other publications. Stix was the project director and principal author of the NPI report, The State of White America-2007. He blogs at Nicholas Stix, Uncensored.
     
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