How good is the DNC at choosing candidates?

This is a most interesting thread. Because even the Dems that chimed in haven't questioned the premise that the DNC chooses the Democrat candidate. Not the Democrat voters. I've realized this ever since they claimed Biden beat Bernie. (No possible way.) So the DNC will choose the candidate. No democracy allowed. And yet, they're always whining that someone is taking their democracy away? Why do some want to be a part of that? Low self esteem or what?

 

He won. And he's been an awesome president. So, yes.

Your sore-loser tears are just an added bonus.

Oh, you're Q-cult filth. You should have led with that. We would known to shun you sooner.

 

I've noticed, or made the interesting observation, that a lot of Democrat-side complaints about politics are really about problems going on in their own party. Except they don't want to say that or admit it. So they just project those problems onto all of American politics, and assume the Republicans must be even worse. The call for stricter campaign finance laws are one example.
That could be an interesting long discussion for another thread.

 

The Democrats have picked two crooked nominees in a row, Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden, who have used their public offices to get very wealthy. Yet, the Democrats advertise themselves as “the party of reform and progress.”

Campaign finance law reform is not the real problem. It’s what they do AFTER they have been elected. Hillary and Joe are in the influence selling business. If they are allowed to continue, it will become an industry like the automakers and land developers.

 

What have they done to ensure it?

Its known as "false premise", but it seems most posters fell for it, including yourself.

DNC does not select candidates. Anyone who meets the following 3 criteria can announce candidacy

• Be a natural-born citizen of the United States.
• Be at least 35 years old.
• Have been a resident of the United States for 14 years.

 

They have made it quite obvious that no mainstream Democrat Party politicians will be welcome in the race unless Biden drops out of the race. I think that there is an excellent chance that Biden will withdraw before the primary season.

 

You said they are doing everything in their power to prevent anyone else from running, but there is already a challenger. So, what exactly have they done to ensure that no one else runs? The truth is that there isn't much they can do about it.

Now you are saying "they have made it quite obvious", so I ask how they made it obvious? Who said what to make it obvious?

If they had credible candidates, they would stop forward, but they don't have them.

Having said that, its rare from either party to have the incumbent challenged, because the chance of winning is low. RFK did it in the 60s, and now another RFK has done it again. Oh, and Marianne Williamson is also challenging him. The DNC can't stop it even if they wanted to. Ted Kennedy challenged Carter, and there was nothing DNC could do about it.

 

There are two of them RFK, Jr. and the "Crystal Lady" but they don't qualify has "mainstream."

Gaven Newsum, who will get the nomination eventually.

What you worried about? The Democrats have this race in the bag. Trump will be in prison, and you will win the election with little opposition. That's what you want, isn't it?

I don't want Trump as a candidate, but we are stuck with him.

 

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And? No one stopped them from running.

He said he is not interested, but if he gets the nomination, then how do you defend your argument that DNC will do everything in their power to prevent anyone other than Biden from running?

Did I say I am worried? I'm not worried. I don't think Biden will actually run and as I said they don't have many credible options, other than Manchin.

Me? I'd be happy with Manchin, Rand Paul, Romney, Kashic, Rubio or Cheney. Even that young Hindu guy would be ok, but he doesn't stand a chance.

He is the whiniest man the world has ever seen, but it seems what pseudo-conservatives want. They want entertainment, as opposed to real leadership.

 

Now that list of candidates in actually funny. It's all over the political map and makes no sense. You want me to think that your positions are anything but far left? I have yet to read any of your posts that reflect moderate political positions.

If you were really a moderate, you would totally PO'd at what Biden has done, and you show some interest in getting to the bottom of scandals that are now about to rock his presidency.

 

Lot of things do not make sense to pseudo-conservatives. My favorite politician was Ron Paul, and I voted for him many times, which is why I like Rand Paul, although he is not his father. The others in my list are moderate Dems and Republicans.

I can't think of a single issue where my view is far-left, so obviously you have no clue what you are talking about.

I could say the same about you. But then again, your focus is not on issues but on political figures.

See, that's there yours confusion stems from. You think its a conservative thing to rave about his "scandals" during an election cycle, just because your MSM is doing the same. You think its a conservative duty to parrot every MSM talking point. Its not. For you its all about political figures and "scandals" the media associates with them. That says nothing about your views on issues, it only identifies you as a partisan minded person.

Biden's presidency going to be "rocked"? SO WHAT?

 

And are you willing to recognize the same argument also applies to Trump, but maybe even a little more so?
It's funny the stuff conservatives get accused of, when one thinks about who the shoe actually fits best. And oftentimes those gulping it up seem stoically oblivious of it.

(Most of that was a rhetorical question to point out the blaring hypocrisy but I'll take a yes or no, and I don't wish to derail this thread)

 

Do you see me in all the current threads about Trump indictments? No, I am not there, because I am tired of hearing about it. You, in the other hand, open a thread about Biden on daily bases, but you don't see me there defending him. Why? Because I don't care what happens to him.

You just proved what I told the other poster. Your measure peoples political views based purely on how they attack or defend political figures. You defend Trump to tooth and nail, and you think that makes you a conservative. It doesn't. It just makes you a partisan person.

Do I care what happens to Hunter or Joe Biden? No, I don't care, and nor am I wasting any time defending him on those issues. I also do not wish to see him win 2nd term.

I dont think there are many conservatives around here. I wish there were.

You THINK everyone is like you, but on the other side of the aisle, but not every one is like that.

Try measuring peoples stance based on issues, rather than what they think about any given politicians.

 

How good is the DNC at choosing candidates?

About as good as the RNC. In other words the choices are based on politics rather than competence. So we get politics and incompetence over and over.

 

A candidate must announce their intentions to run for the presidency. This time it’s Biden, JFK Jr. and Williamson. Biden running for reelection. Those are the choices given Democrats to choose from in the primaries. What the DNC and Democratic Party leaders have done is lean on several unannounced potential candidates not to challenge Biden. They have acceded to that pressure. Without the pressure from the DNC and Democratic Party leaders, I have no doubt a couple to a few more would have announced their intention to run thus giving the Democratic rank and file more choices than 3. The DNC has also stated there would be no debates, thus the DNC is doing all it can to make sure Biden wins renomination.


The bottom line is the voters, primaries are limited to those who choose to run. The DNC and democratic party leaders can’t control who chooses to run, but they can put pressure on those thinking about it not to run and change rules for the primaries to favor their favored candidate. Like Biden this time around or Clinton in 2016.

 

Bernie won only 6 States, so its a tough sale trying to argue he somehow should have been the winner.

 

Bernie was the front runner until the Democrats had African-American congressman, Jim Clyburn, give a ringing endorsement to Biden. Clyburn did that before there was a primary in South Carolina with a heavy African-American Democrat primary vote. The Black vote jumped in for Biden, and he was one his way.

As for why other major Democrats have not come out to oppose Biden, it all has to do with the penalties they will incur if they did. Party discipline is huge in the Democrat Party. You vote and make statements that don’t agree with the party line, and you are ostracized. Look a Joe Mansion. AOC made a statement that said, in effect, that he was lower than whale dung because he wouldn't vote the party line. Sure enough, that was probably enough to get him to vote for Biden's "Inflation Reduction Act" which Biden has since called "The Green New Deal" in sheep's clothing. The Democrats as so regimented that they use the same words when they make public pronouncements. Check out sometime. You see what I mean.

Gavin Newsom and Gretchen Whitmer seem to be shadow Democrats waiting in the wings. I could see those two as the 2024 Democrat presidential and vice presidential ticket.

 

Its unusual from either party to challenge the incumbent, but Dems have done it on a number of occasions, and are doing it now, but I don't think the GOP has ever done it. Either way, Sanders won only 6 States, to I don't see why you think he should have been the winner in 2020. And no, there are no penalties for voters. They can vote for whoever they want to.

Newsome flat out said he is not interested. Gretchen Whitmer said the same thing.

I hope Manchin announces, and a moderate Republican wins the GOP primaries, and then we can't lose no matter who wins.

 

Not originally, but he's turned out to be awesome, so everyone is very happy with him.

Well, all the decent people are happy, that is. The garbage humans are in meltdown mode, specifically because he's been such a good president, and has done such good things for the USA.

You can see he's been kicking Republican butt hard, which is why they say things like this:

See? The garbage humans are upset, mainly due to sore loser butthurt.

 

No, he didn't. A Republican conspiracy website made that up, and then worst people in the world decided to parrot it.

 

Sanders was ahead until Clyburn came out with his ringing endorsement. The same thing happened to him 2016.

And, yea, Trump had a couple of, you never heard of them, guys who opposed him in the primary here in Florida. They got almost no support.

 

Wait and see. Newsom is a disinterested as Trump is. Do you remember when he took the tour of the Oval Office when Biden was out of town?

 

How can he be a front runner when he won only States, most of which were towards the end of the primaries. Clyburn endorsement didn't force anyone to not vote for Sanders, and nor was there any punishment for the voters.

Trump is running, and Newsome is not.

No. I don't watch the media.

I guess we'll just have to wait and see how things look in a year. I dont get to vote in the primaries (we have closed primaries), so I'll just sit back and watch.

 

Political parties try to choose winners.

In the most recent election, 2022, The Republican Party, controlled by Trump, picked a number of real losers,
losing elections it could have won. The Democratic Party won more than expected.

Joseph Biden has been a candidate for political office ten times. Joseph Biden won political office ten times.

Donald Trump has been a candidate for political office twice. Donald Trump had won political office once.

Every time that Joseph Biden has run against Donald Trump, he has beaten him.

Every time that Donald Trump has run against Joseph Biden, he has lost to him.

Joseph Biden in riding a winning streak of ten,

Donald Trump is riding a losing streak of one.

Joseph Biden has never been indicted. Donald Trump is now facing multiple criminal indictments.

Even a multiple casino bankrupt should be able to read the odds.

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