How is the "gay rights" movement the same as other civil rights movements?

With "gay rights" supporters constantly comparing their situation to the civil rights movement of blacks they are sayin that this:



Is somehow the same as this:



I wonder how they ever came up with this and how do African Americans feel about gays jumping on the bandwagon? How is skin color and sexual behavior even remotely similar?

Help me out with this one....anyone?

 

The only major area I can think of where i support the 'gay rights' struggle is concerning sodomy laws. I am against them and they are a dark part of our history and unconstitutional. Other than that, there really isn't a comparison. Gay marriage doesn't bother me, as long as proponents of gay marriage respect the rights of polygamists. If not, then its a double standard.

 

the term "civil" has nothing to do with race. Have a look.
civ·il
ˈsivəl/
adjective
1.
of or relating to ordinary citizens and their concerns, as distinct from military or ecclesiastical matters.

Homosexuals are ordinary citizens, unless you think they are a military or a church so thus equally for homosexuals is a civil rights issue.

Just because the movement began with race. doesn't mean it's exclusive to race. What would make you think that?

 

This is your error. Try again.

 

Well gay certainly isn't a skin color and there is no reliable scientific proof showing gay as being a physical trait. Then what is it and why does it differ from beastiality?

 

It's a sexual orientation.

It differs from bestiality because other people of the same. sex aren't animals.

 

Nobody is saying skin colour and sexual behaviour are the same thing, they're talking about sexual orientation. Now, you're entitled to claim sexual orientation doesn't exist and you're entitled to claim rights on the basis of sexual orientation shouldn't be equated to rights on the basis of race but to claim this issue is about sexual behaviour is simply wrong. This "misunderstanding" on your part is why you're so confused. You asked for help on this and I am trying to help but you need to actually want to understand.

 

The only ones equating the gay rights movement to sexual behavior are those who are opposed to it.

Funny huh?

Blacks and gays have faced many of the same adversities. Blacks were denied the right to equal employment and equal housing. Gays were denied and still are in many places the right to equal employment and housing. Meaning gays can be fired for being gay and denied renting or buying a house because they are gay.

Blacks were denied the right to marry, their marriages not being recognized by state or federal government. Interracial marriage was illegal. Gays are denied marriage rights in most states.

Businesses prohibited blacks, businesses prohibit gays.

The KKK lynched gays right besides blacks.

So yes...if you actually look at history...the two civil rights movements are very similar.

 

And there lies the problem. The thing is, the OP does not want to understand. That's not what he's looking for.

 

Seriously? You just lost any credibility.

 

Well I am getting away from the semantic games those here are trying to play. "Sexual orientation" is a term invented to try and make gays feel better about themselves. Truth is this "orientation" is manifested in behavior so the point is moot. I still don't see the connection to the legitamite civil rights movement. Gay rights is a ruse to justify perverted behavior.

 

No, it's not. Gay people do not get discriminated against for what we do, we get discriminated against for what we are. No one is having sex in front of anyone. I am not just gay when I have sex. I still am attracted to men even when I am not having sex.

In my office, we just celebrated a coworker's wedding to his partner of 29 years. It was pretty cool- drinks and food just like anyone else's wedding. 29 years is a long time to wait to get married. The guy who led the celebration is straight and made a great toast, "29 years? Are you really sure you like each other?" Hilarious. It was a good time and reminded me that I live in a good place. A place where the law treats us equally. I know that two people who love each other sounds odd to you, but the rest of us get it.

 

Well here is your chance to show "gay" is anything other than a behavior.

 

I already did. Two people together for over 29 years is pretty amazing. I'm sorry if you think that two people who love each other is bad. That's your problem.

 

Sorry but that doesn't prove anything. Please spare me the emotional appeal fallacy and bring the facts or stay on the porch.

 

Consensual adult same sex activity has nothing to do with bestiality. Though if you wanna (*)(*)(*)(*) your dog, I'm not gonna stop you.

 

I'm sorry, what did you miss? Gay people fall in love and get married just like you do. Do you deny that fact?

 

Both are perverted.

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It isn't so much that I deny anything as much as you have failed to prove anything. If that is what you claim it would be nice if you could go ahead and prove it. Otherwise you are only preaching, yanno, like the Westboro Baptist folks.

 

At this point, I don't know what you're asking me to prove. Westboro actively works to hurt people.

One more time- do you deny that gay people fall in love and get married just like you? Or is it different? If it is, tell me how. Why does hate, like Westboro, not scare you, but love does?

 

You seem to be preaching hate against those you don't agree with same as the Westboro folks.

I don't have to prove anything. You are making this claim so the burden of proof is squarely on you. So where is your proof?

 

I just gave it to you several posts ago. Gay people fall in love and get married just like you. And what have I said that is hateful?

 

That is your claim but you provide no proof of your claim. Try again.

 

The proof is everywhere. Do you not read the internet or the news? Gay people are getting married all over the place after years of being together. We have families and kids. Do you seriously deny that? Anyway, I have to go to bed. I have to do that thing that liberals apparently don't do and go to work tomorrow.

 

That isn't proof that is called publicity. You don't have anything to back your claim you are only making assumptions and preaching your opinion. People who support gays have a lot of nerve trying to force acceptance of their perverted behavior on society. The only thing they really can say is they want what they want and no one has a right to a different opinion. A lot of nerve indeed.