How Many Genders Are There?

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How Many Genders Are There?

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  1. 2

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  2. 3

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  3. 4

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  4. 5+

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  5. Unkown

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  1. InWalkedBud

    InWalkedBud Well-Known Member

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    How Many Genders Are There?
     
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    Two, unless mental illness is a gender.
     
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    There are two genders.....

    but all of us are surrounded by an astonishing number of invisible life forms and some of us allow those life forms to have far too much influence over our thoughts.

    http://www.allaboutchristian.com/spirituality/index.html


     
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    I voted that there are two genders, but there is a possible third one: "MISTAKES".... :psychoitc:
     
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    The truth is two. The fiction is as many as the woke Democrats can invent to please the mentally ill.
     
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    There are 2 genders, and thousands of sub-genders.

    A male can identify as a female lesbian.

    I identify as a dog. I felt this way ever since I was a puppy!
     
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    If you're born with a pecker, you're a boy.
    If you're born with a cooter, you're a girl.
    If you're born with both, or neither, you have a birth defect.
    If you're born as one, but feel like the other, you have a mental condition.
     
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    Two sexes. Many genders. And many more that's never picked up a dictionary. And many, many more who can't stop thinking about it 24/7 and bring it up on political boards.


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    I think the woke gender horsesh!t first appeared on my radar 20-ish years ago, when Serena Williams had set some major record in the sport. NPR had John McEnroe on as the expert commentator to weigh in on it. During the interview McEnroe called Williams the greatest women’s player of all time. NPR’s woke host said “Why do you call her the greatest women’s player? Why not just the greatest player?” McEnroe replied “Because she’s not. She couldn’t beat the 800th ranked player on the men’s side.”

    It instantly became a ridiculous, fabricated made-up controversy, and McEnroe took a ton of heat for it. Williams got sucked into the drama & gave an interview where she made it clear she didn’t completely agree with McEnroe. She said she probably could beat the 800th ranked men’s player. But certainly not the 100th ranked. She said she had a hard time playing against her male coach, and he’s not even a pro. He’s a… coach. She went on to say that given the physical disparities, she wasn’t so sure it could be said that men & women were even playing the same game.

    From NPR drones offended by reality, we’ve moved on to shoveling porn into schools. Books like All Boys Aren’t Blue for eager young minds, because woke gospel holds that the classroom is where kids need to learn how to suck dick, and prepare themselves to be sodomized by adult members of their families. The campus is now petri dish where a 15 year old girl can be forcibly sodomized by a 14 year old boy in a dress, who belongs in the girls' room with his victim. Because gender fluid, or something. When the victim's dad dared to sound off about it at the school board, he was arrested and jailed. Because that how we penalize heretics who commit the sin of wrong thinking.

    Here’s a concerned citizen before his local school board reading excerpts from another canon of woke scripture – and therefore perfectly appropriate for kids - something called Push. The board kills his mic and has 5 cops haul his black ass out the door. I encourage you to listen to what he reads. If you’re not repulsed by it - never mind the reality that it's being made available to children - do the world a favor and dive head first into a wood chipper.

    This goes much, much deeper than narcissistic lefty posing. The OG Marxists fractured their societies along class lines. Their current day progeny are trying to do the same using race, gender and grooming kids. The extremist mainstream left desperately wants to mainstream its delusions and depravity, and has all kids in its crosshairs. Anyone unconcerned about that is either deliberately clueless, or evil. I think it's the latter, and believe it's taking us toward a John Brown moment.
     
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    But one's gender depends entirely on one's sexual construction, including everything from obvious physiological components, to chromosomes, glands, and hormones.

    Now, however, if that enumeration of "genders" you're provided is a listing of mental aberrations or dysfunctions, then that's something else entirely! Mental illness can be a very multifaceted thing indeed.... :psychoitc:
     
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    Gender and sex are not the same
    One is a social construct
    One is biology
     
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    The "social construct" you theorize is a direct manifestation of the biological REALITY of human physiology.
     
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    I am not theorizing anything

    Just following the definition of the word and it’s common accepted usage

    You are free to not accept that
     
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    There are two biological genders. This is defined by chromosomes and specific pelvic girdle bone formation as well as the structure of coils in the brain and the presence or absence of a womb.

    A very small percentage of the population was born with two sets of genitalia and for them there are unique medical issues but one gender has more pronounced features than the other.

    People who feel strongly about being able to define many genders probably do not refer to the biological definition or inherent gender they were born with. They probably are referring to their belief that certain people have something inside them that makes them feel they are the opposite gender and its not based on sexual partner choice but something else other than sex preference.

    Many people confuse gender identity and sexual preference issues but not all people who do not define themselves as the gender they were born with wish to change their gender or feel attracted to the same gender sexually. So how we express our sexual identity and how we manage our inherent gender in terms of accepting or rejecting either category becomes the issue we all decide on our individual basis. The more you repress how you really feel either way, the more problems you have. Healthy, guilt free expression is the goal of being healthy and well not to mention spiritually balanced/

    I come from the school of thought that in regards to sexuality or gender we need to ease up and accept who we are.

    In regards to gender identity or sex partner preference, there is no one size fits all approach. Aperson who is born with a disconnection to their body gender they were born with and/or sexual partner preference may have what is called body dysmorphia.

    We can see that with such people they may have precursor symptoms and illnesses such as depression, anxiety, anorexia nervosa, bulimia nervosa, addiction to plastic surgery, obsession with dieting, taking steroids, cutting themselves or hurting themselves, turning to drugs and alcohol to mask their constant state of unease and commit suicide.


    We also see some people with body dysmorphia in fact have underlying issues associated with their sex preference are because they were taught to reject same sex attraction very strongly, think if they try to change genders this will now make the sex attraction "straight" so to speak and they will no longer hate themselves. Its very similar to a self hate phenomena in the past where gays and lesbians would try become priests and nuns hoping it would erase their tendencies and preferences.

    We also gave individuals where that gender disconnection is so strong but has nothing to do with sexual preference issues but other pervasive issues and in such cases makes them chronically ill with both physical and psychiatric conditions as the two can be interconnected and are often referred to as somatic disorders and include the ones I mentioned above.

    A percentage of people with body dysmorphia were abused sexually and so are trying to detach from what they think made them attractive to the abuser.

    So there are many complex reasons why people's gender and sex profiles vary and we have to consider physiological, neurological, biological and psychological issues not to mention cultural and environmental conditioning to see and understand the origins of these disconnections or maladjustments.

    Who is best treated by therapy that teaches them to accept how they were born with and/or the sex partner preference they have and who is better served taking drugs to change their bodies is complex. There is no one size fits all approach.

    There are very real medical dangers involved in administering puberty blockers too soon or too young. As well women who transition to men and men who transition to women undergo drastic mood swings and changes, painful side effects and very real social interaction issues and many constantly have to adjust their medications reacting to issues as they arise. You don't just magically change and live happily after. As you age the medication and proper balance of chemicals changes as does your body.

    We are still researching how long term changes in gender impact on those over 60. Whether it can increase certain kinds of cancer or other diseases or even types of dementia is all under study.

    People should know the average person who transitions sacrifices many things, undergoes great pain and sadness and often loses their friends and family. For some the social issues become so negative they are prone to suicide. So to simply call it self indulgence, Satan's influence, etc., mental illness,misrepresents such people. They make their choice knowing it will be full of issues they wish they could avoid.

    My perspective comes from having put sex criminals in jail and interviewing victims of sexual abuse and violence. It comes from listening as much as studying./ So it is a perspective that takes each individual without judgement. For me as I said my bias is that of someone who does not want anyone using sex to hurt or exploit someone else.
     
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    Sex is not gender. There have been cultures with more than two genders pretty often in history. It's about the social role they play in society. It's often related to biological sex, but more to it than that since cultures are complicated. I've heard of many beyond these but some examples: Cultures That Recognize More than Two Genders | Britannica
     
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    It could. It should not. The biological and social constructs should not be confused for one another. His social construct theory can not deny biology but the inherent biological limitations of gender does NOT necessarily mean there can not be a parallel social construct theory.

    You can follow science but still believe in God so to speak. Science and spiritual identity can work together or vary. Its tricky but one does not have to work at cross purposes to the other as I explained in my earlier response.

    You both in a sense are equal in valid contentions. I myself would argue what someone calls themself or identifies as is something ultimately they decide. You and I may feel otherwise so its like religion. You might disagree with another's religion but it does not mean their religious beliefs are necessarily wrong because of biology or science. Biology does not judge. Its based on material definition. Gender identity for sure starts with biology but does not end there. It then depends on a complex set of learned, genetic and other phenomena that may vary how its expressed by each individual.
     
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    Don't feel too bad about the lack of confidence most of us have about "common accepted usage" deserving any special credence... especially when applied to something as completely imaginary as "genders" being made up of something besides males, females, and possibly, mistakes.

    indeed, it was quite common at one time for commonly accepted theories like the sun's rotation around the Earth, and the concept of a flat-Earth to establish themselves in the common mind as facts! Commonly accepted theories are like buttholes -- everybody's got one!

    [​IMG]. This one was my favorite.... :xd:
     
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    Yes, words and meanings change as understanding progresses.
     
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    A play on words to excuse dysphoria.
     
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    In my opinion, there's obviously only two. Because even if you look at the transgender movement, people are usually aspiring to one or the other.
    If someone wants to be agender (or genderless), then that's not really a "gender".

    In some cases, it might be possible to be a mix, but that's still a mix of two genders, two basic genders that exist. It would be like mixing red and yellow together. You can only get different shades of orange, some further toward red and others further toward yellow.

    I'm not saying it's absolutely theoretically impossible to invent another gender, but from what I've seen they don't really exist. Transexuals are usually trying to do things to be more like one of the two basic genders.
     
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    So if your sex organs don't determine your gender how come so many people that want to change their gender want to alter their sex organs?
     
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    I'm fine with trans people but it is not a gender, there are only 2.
     
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    They are exactly the same. Social constructs don't affect biology,
     
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    Definitions disagree with you but thanks for sharing your opinion I guess?
     
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