How many racist/flamebait posts do you need to post to get yourself banned ?

Are you saying there are people who are pedophiles as well as also being racists, in the forum or is this "political topic" even more heinous? Perhaps better we don't know, as it has already been removed as against the TOS.

It is really hard to believe anyone could be stupid enough to think such views will find acceptance or approval anywhere legitimate. To the extent one has to wonder if some of these people ever make a genuine post, or if the whole thing is a disingenuous and twisted joke at the expense of the forum community who debate issues seriously.

That is a mistake. Racism is never going to be accepted by reasonable people, there will be no reaching consensus, reasonable people will never view racists/m part of the community. It is tantamount to something as obviously dangerous to the good of society as murder.

Just another strange way to try to justify unacceptable behaviour. Keep trying to find a way to manipulate the unsuspecting and make those views acceptable. Keep trying to sneak racism in via the back door under a blanket to hide the reality of that disgusting face, because it can never be brought in openly.

However, let me put it in the most bald and populist of terms so that people like yourself can understand. Go watch any Hollywood movie where the bad guy and the good guy come face to face and have the customary conversation before the good guy brings in reality and symbolically ends the career of the bad guy. It goes something like:

"Mr Bond, you should be nicer to me, you and I are basically very alike and you would be like me if you would only listen"...followed by you know what.

 

You can't have it both ways. If a black person comes out swinging about the racism they have experienced in their lives, then they are verbally clubbed down, with vigor because they are black, with the victim status card played until the spots are worn off.

If whites speak on racism in an opposing manner to your particular views...then you think that that is revealing, that they are most offended by racism.

Real dialog is necessary, no matter how messy or uncomfortable it is, on either side(s) of the issues.

 

Why ? Are you going for the self righteous victim of the year award ?

 

The platform this forum gives racists is not real dialogue. Really, most people would not listen to racist tripe for one minute.

Here, racists can have the false inaccurate impression their views are not that offensive because they are not banned and don't seem to face the normal reaction to racism.

This is not because racism is accepted, it is because "normals" react with uncontrolled outrage and tend to overdo it as they are so offended and then they have to be banned...leaving the field clear for racists to think no one minds their nasty views.

 

VIV,

firstly admit that all non-whites countries would have been still poor and dirty garbage bins if whites ones do not shared technologies, science and economy with them. The people with sound mind can not believe that all folks are equal.Where can you see prominent white democrats leaving in black neighborhoods?

 

Viv ,
This is the way the "professionals " are schooled and rehearsed .
The sponsored agitators always make brief Posts once they have started a Topic . Usually they give bland one line responses and more than two lines is unusual .

They return to threads , usually to highlight a link or alter the discussion back toward the OP if it starts to morph .
The best example is a certain poster whom you should Duck away from , who loves to give us a near daily dose of White Supremacy where only blacks and muslims are the targets for vilification .

 

Ostap, racists have lost because of their views, which are absolutely not supported by the vast majority in civilised society and they will never be again. The civilised world has evolved past racism.

Racism would be flattened completely here if people were not banned for reacting in a way which is absolutely normal in the real world.

As to economics, why are you banging on about US politics when you don't live in that country and probably have no idea who lives where...

 

I try to duck away as they make me heave, but unfortunately I don't see the point of posting in political forums if you are not going to face down the mugs who want to return the world to neanderthal violence and genocide.

Yes genocide. Because to dispel any doubt, those who support racism are a step away from that agenda and history has shown how little it takes for them to justify that step. And they are experienced in justifying the unjustifiable as we see from their silly posts here every day.

Those of you who can't stomach the racism on this forum, you are of course correct. But get in here and fight it.

 

You are obviously living in your own little closed world. People in most of the eastern european countries openly hold attitudes and beliefs that would be considered outright "racist" by many of those in the West. And things were very different only two generations ago. The opinions held by your grandparents on race are likely very different from your parents. My grandparents, for example, believed "Africans are lazy", were against interracial marriage (including greeks and italians!) and did not hold too friendly attitudes towards the jews either. Few of the younger people realise how different the opinions of the older generations are when it comes to race, perhaps they never asked. It is probably because of the schools trying to impart new attitudes and beliefs in the young since the 1960's.

 

There are racialist elements in any message boards and there is no point in getting upset over mere forum posts. Offensive terms are automatically censored by the forum programme and more words could added on the banned word list to make it fairer.

 

Hovercraft, it is you who live in your own little closed world if you think any of the racist/even less palatable views you express on this forum are within the parameters of acceptable and that is the point. How the forum is working at the moment is giving people like yourself the impression they can post such crap with equanimity, because the reaction of normal people is being effectively screened out. Let me ask you this...how often have you expressed these views in public in the real world and what was the reaction of the people you expressed them to?

It's not doing you any favours, giving you a false impression of how most people view racism.

Firstly, you post racist propaganda on this forum on a more or less full time basis and that propaganda has been evidenced again and again to have more holes than a giant sieve, so you can evidence the comment above when you're ready.

Secondly, in the unlikely event, is allegedly racist Eastern European attitude aspirational for people in the West? Do you think it is?

Get a grip of yourself. The West is all about freedom, living how you want to live, moving past moronic bigotries and taking a more intelligent view, realising race doesn't matter. The West is about inclusion, tolerance, appreciation of diversity as those are the things which make the West a better place to live and those are the things which have progressed the West economically as well as socially. We work hard to drag less advanced culture up to Western standards regarding freedom and liberty, if you want to drag us down you're missing the point again. We are not going back.

My grandparents were no more racist than I. All that crap people like yourself spout about how they fought to defend the borders is just that, absolute crap. My grandparents fought for freedom and tolerance, not racism. They fought AGAINST racist genocide, not for it. So you know what you can do with that idiotic attempt to play on emotion. If my grandfather was here btw, he'd do it to you and for you.

In that, you are correct as my lovely Dad who was an educated world traveling businessman, happened to hate the French because he found them arrogant. We spent many an hour debating that, but some Frenchman made his business life awkward, he himself had a backbone like a ramrod and that was that. Go figure. The French and only the French, not any of the non-white peoples you hate yourself. He did not hate the English, despite the traditional antipathy between our countries. Anthipathy toward them was entirely political, as is my own.

My Dad was wrong about the French, who are very nice people and your grandparents were wrong, but whereas I can see that, you are obviously more under the thumb to have carried on ignorant unsocial family attitudes better not repeated in public to mark one out as regressive and intellectually challenged.

You are speaking for yourself, but perhaps you should go to school and try to pick up a few pointers to equip you for the modern world where racism is an embarrassing part of the social past and irrelevant in the much smaller world we live in today.

 

If you don't care enough to be upset by racial (no ist) elements, that is up to you. Most of us are here because we care.

 

I suspect your conversations about racism, prejudice, racial identifiers, racial identity, inherent white privilege etc are much different than mine. At least in the real world, real dialogs I have, with many people, of many different pigmentations. It is a frequent topic, because I make it a frequent topic.

Personally, I think the term prejudice should be properly applied much more often than it is, and racist and racism should not be applied nearly as often.

I think this forum, since I've been around here anyways, seems to go with a healthy amount of freedom of speech principle. I am always good with that...even when it ticks me off on an issue, racial or otherwise.

 

Viv, it is not your business where me live and who I am, discuss about the post, not the posters.

 

I'll discuss whatever I want to discuss within the TOS, Ostap. You raised a point, I asked what knowledge do you have to back your comments. None, I take it.

 

I suspect you are right. Most people don't make racism a frequent topic. Why would they?

The term racist is not applied nearly as often as it should be here.

Who isn't good with that? As many others have pointed out before me, freedom of speech is key so long as you are a racist.

 

Viv, I have a little bit more knowledge as you, you can believe me.

 

Based on what? Anecdotal is not evidential.

 

It is not your business.

 

Nothing then.

Get off it. If you post it in a debate forum, you raise it for discussion and chose to make it everyone's business who read your post.

 

He/she must be kidding. Mods/admins on here are so pro-racists/homophobes/Obamahaters, et al it's actually become humorous.

I've got a whole thread on my forum quoting some of the crazy stuff I read on here.

 

I bet all 3 posters get a kick outta reading that stuff, too. Beats actually having to post anything worthwhile.

 

Based on my experience ... this is a trick question.