how many rights have americans lost? read me and weep.

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    9/11 was an inside job Well-Known Member

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    http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2013/02/constitution.html


    of congressional leaders, generals and everyone else in the U.S. for the last 10 years.

    He further explains that he set up the NSA’s system so that all of the information would automatically be encrypted, so that the government had to obtain a search warrant based upon probably cause before a particular suspect’s communications could be decrypted. [He specifically did this to comply with the Fourth Amendment's prohibition against unreasonable search and seizure.] But the NSA now collects all data in an unencrypted form, so that no probable cause is needed to view any citizen’s information. He says that it is actually cheaper and easier to store the data in an encrypted format: so the government’s current system is being done for political – not practical – purposes.

    He says that if anyone gets on the government’s “enemies list”, then the stored information will be used to target them. Specifically, he notes that if the government decides it doesn’t like someone, it analyzes all of the data it has collected on that person and his or her associates over the last 10 years to build a case against him.
     
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    FearandLoathing Well-Known Member

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    For once I have to not only agree with you but completely support this post.

    It has always seemed something of a cosmic oxymoron that in the name of fighting a threat to America's freedoms, America has abolished not only her own freedoms, but those of citizens of sovereign nations as well.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omar_Khadr

    While there are some inaccuracies and how his plea agreement was obtained [torture] Kadr was 15 when he was taken by US soldiers and tortured for 8 years at the hands of Syrians and in gitmo...
     
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    wait a minute,you can accept these facts but yet,somehow you cant accept my user name is the truth? You remind me of the Bush dupes who can accept it that our government could do such a horrible thing like the CIA killing JFK,they can accept that one,yet,even though there is far more evidence out there,that my user name is true,like them,you wont look at the evidence on that one.9/11 is what led to all this.:roll:
     
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    FearandLoathing Well-Known Member

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    I suggest that your user name kind of precludes any OTHER conclusion, but I have to ask where in my post I disagreed with your user name.

    Fact is I thought I was pretty clear in that I supported the OP completely. But you attack me for something else entirely......forget it, in the future I won't bother supported you if it draws this kind of fire.

    Sorry to bother you
     
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    9/11 was an inside job Well-Known Member

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    you made that pretty clear you accept the official version of 9/11 saying for the first time you agree with me.hee hee.any logical person would come to the same conclusion.:roll: Oh and I also remember you mocking my facts over at that other site when I started talking about the truth of that event as well.

    and I have seen you post in the 9/11 section before ignoring all the facts and evidence there that proves it was an inside job so yeah people that cant accept that fact that it was an inside job and live in denial about that,im not interested in what THEY have to say.
     
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    Poor baby
     
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    In my opinion, the War Powers Act must also apply to our federal Congress as a Standard fixed by them regarding an office of public trust under the United States; thus, if our federal Congress cannot justify burdening us with wartime tax rates, then it must not be a real time of war sufficient to deny or disparage our privileges and immunities due to only alleged times of war.
     
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    yep thats what you are.thats being a poor baby being afraid covering your ears and eyes to the fact.:roflol:
     
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    Then don't listen to me... just a heads up.

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    ooohhh.... good third grade come back. The classic, "I know you are but what am I?" :lol:
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    your arrogant and condescending attitude is why Truthers fail.
     
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    After meeting with a great deal of willful ignorance and disregard for the constitution or our collective rights and freedoms, an attitude is justifiably created. Those prone to labeling Americans seeking to defend the constitution as "truthers" also evade accountabilty to an immense base of facts, naturally reject the sincerity of those labelling. That might be termed "arrogant and condescending" by those evading accountability, of course in efforts to distract from their own non-feasance as citizens.

    Truthers fail because the truth movement was started by the perpetrators the truth movement tries to expose. The quasi leaders refuse to use independently verified information and promote misinformation. Of course the misinformation, to any expert looks like nonsense, which it is, so as soon as the truth movement tries to get the expert involved, the expert runs away.

    This leaves the truth movement looking fairly incompetent and crazed with unprovable notions of conspiratorial sensation.

    If the truth movement could stop relying on the false social structures created by the perpetrators to guide their activism, and instead rely on verifiable evidence, experts would be fairly easy to engage.
     

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